I love the idea of a 6'6 scorer, but I thought our class was full.

Updated to reflect Ball State's Quinten Payne's destination of D-1 Dartmouth, and Ohio picking up Jaaron Simmons from Houston.

It seems we have this guy coming in.

He was a walk-on at Washington State but went the JuCo route.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-688315.html

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/chuks-iroegbu

Ball State picks up 6-6 F Ryan Weber from YSU

I'll take the trade off of losing Payne and picking up Weber any day....

although Ohio lost 3 of its 4 commits because of the coaching change not a single player already on the roster transferred out. A fortunate surprise.

(05-15-2014 03:41 PM)Frozenbaugh Wrote:  I'll take the trade off of losing Payne and picking up Weber any day....

impact player for ball st, but the impact isn't until 2015-16

EMU adds Mike Samuels, a 6-11 transfer from Indiana State. Immediately eligible as a graduate. Will have 2 years to play.
Kent adds 6-3 Jr. Xavier Pollard from Maine.

(05-21-2014 10:01 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  EMU adds Mike Samuels, a 6-11 transfer from Indiana State. Immediately eligible as a graduate. Will have 2 years to play.
Kent adds 6-3 Jr. Xavier Pollard from Maine.

Interesting prospect. Was highly regarded as a JUCO transfer by ISU. Broke a foot during a summer (team) tour and it didn't heal properly and it was operated on a 2nd time.

Should be a six-year man, with double medical redshirt years for the same medical problem.

That puts EMU at 11 scholarships (five from 2013/2014, including DePaul sitout Jodan Price) plus six new scholarships.

Reportedly, EMU might be interested in another center (no name available).

Reportedly EMU might be in on another prospect (no details available).

And, of course, Murphy is the wizard as working the 'transfer wire'. There are transfers being announced every day. This is college basketballs version of NFL free agency.

I'd expect us to have #12, maybe soon and #13 (?????).

(05-21-2014 10:01 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  EMU adds Mike Samuels, a 6-11 transfer from Indiana State. Immediately eligible as a graduate. Will have 2 years to play.

OK - I really don't like the rule where students who graduate can jump to any other school and play another season. I know they have to enroll in classes (or at least a class) at the new school. This has been building up where there's a significant list of 'graduate free agents' that schools are competing over.

But when one of these 'graduate free agents' can play 2 seasons?

(05-22-2014 07:45 AM)Slinkin Street Flash Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 10:01 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  EMU adds Mike Samuels, a 6-11 transfer from Indiana State. Immediately eligible as a graduate. Will have 2 years to play.

OK - I really don't like the rule where students who graduate can jump to any other school and play another season. I know they have to enroll in classes (or at least a class) at the new school. This has been building up where there's a significant list of 'graduate free agents' that schools are competing over.

But when one of these 'graduate free agents' can play 2 seasons?

Simple.

A player has 5 years to play 4.

This player missed 2 seasons because of the same injury which means he has 6 to play 4.

The fact that he is a graduate student eligible transfer is not relevant or changes anything.

As a D-I grad student he must pass 9 credits per semester. So he does 18 hours the first year and the rest the 2nd year. Works perfectly.

(05-22-2014 07:45 AM)Slinkin Street Flash Wrote:  

(05-21-2014 10:01 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  EMU adds Mike Samuels, a 6-11 transfer from Indiana State. Immediately eligible as a graduate. Will have 2 years to play.

OK - I really don't like the rule where students who graduate can jump to any other school and play another season. I know they have to enroll in classes (or at least a class) at the new school. This has been building up where there's a significant list of 'graduate free agents' that schools are competing over.

But when one of these 'graduate free agents' can play 2 seasons?

why? this is the only decent thing the ncaa has done in a decade. you have the right to change jobs without a salary freeze. coaches can jump ship and coach anywhere the next yr. ncaa administrators can switch positions, take paid leaves, etc... shouldn't a young athlete who banged out a college degree in 4 years while essentially playing/working full time in their sport have the right to complete their eligibility at a school which offers them a better athletic or academic situation for their grad years? surely, there are some kids who aren't committed to their graduate program and use the rule to get some playing time or be closer to family. so what. they worked hard and got their degree.

It just seems like moving from "playing sports while getting a college degree" to "playing sports at a college". Admittedly, I haven't looked closely at the educational program these students enroll in; to me it would make a big difference if they were enrolled in a masters program, as opposed to taking more undergraduate classes.

(05-23-2014 07:19 AM)Slinkin Street Flash Wrote:  It just seems like moving from "playing sports while getting a college degree" to "playing sports at a college". Admittedly, I haven't looked closely at the educational program these students enroll in; to me it would make a big difference if they were enrolled in a masters program, as opposed to taking more undergraduate classes.

These are kids going for a graduate eduacation, not post bachelors work in basket weaving.

(05-23-2014 08:45 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-23-2014 07:19 AM)Slinkin Street Flash Wrote:  It just seems like moving from "playing sports while getting a college degree" to "playing sports at a college". Admittedly, I haven't looked closely at the educational program these students enroll in; to me it would make a big difference if they were enrolled in a masters program, as opposed to taking more undergraduate classes.

These are kids going for a graduate eduacation, not post bachelors work in basket weaving.

You know what classes they are taking next year? How would you know that?

(05-23-2014 08:45 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-23-2014 07:19 AM)Slinkin Street Flash Wrote:  It just seems like moving from "playing sports while getting a college degree" to "playing sports at a college". Admittedly, I haven't looked closely at the educational program these students enroll in; to me it would make a big difference if they were enrolled in a masters program, as opposed to taking more undergraduate classes.

These are kids going for a graduate eduacation, not post bachelors work in basket weaving.

95% of the stories I see about these players are about the sports, and adding a wildcard recruit to the team. I hain't seen none yet that were about 'the great graduate Engineering program at Enormous State U'

And here's the other point with the graduate free agents - it sets up the initative for programs to not push students to progress academically. If I redshirt a freshman, and he is studious enough to graduate in 4 years, he's free to transfer just when all my development work should be paying off. After a few of these, I might not redshirt a player who might need it, or might advise the player to postpone taking classes so the 4-year degree takes 5 years.

(05-23-2014 09:50 AM)Slinkin Street Flash Wrote:  And here's the other point with the graduate free agents - it sets up the initative for programs to not push students to progress academically. If I redshirt a freshman, and he is studious enough to graduate in 4 years, he's free to transfer just when all my development work should be paying off. After a few of these, I might not redshirt a player who might need it, or might advise the player to postpone taking classes so the 4-year degree takes 5 years.

We've had 2 kids recently do this here. Alex Niznak, 3rd string QB. He enrolled in Jan of his Sr year of HS, redshirted, and just graduated with his BS in 3.5 yrs. He knows he's buried under the depth chart so he transferred to SEMO where he gets to compete for a starting position and get a grad degree. Good for him.

In BB we had Kyle Randall come from UNC-Greensboro for a year. He was awesome for our young team. He's now in the D-league. Had he stayed at UNCG he would have seen limited playing time because of the young players brought in after him, probably doesn't end up where he is now.

(05-23-2014 08:53 AM)axeme Wrote:  

(05-23-2014 08:45 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-23-2014 07:19 AM)Slinkin Street Flash Wrote:  It just seems like moving from "playing sports while getting a college degree" to "playing sports at a college". Admittedly, I haven't looked closely at the educational program these students enroll in; to me it would make a big difference if they were enrolled in a masters program, as opposed to taking more undergraduate classes.

These are kids going for a graduate eduacation, not post bachelors work in basket weaving.

You know what classes they are taking next year? How would you know that?

i remember hearing that if you are a graduate transfer, you have to enroll in master's-level courses at your new school. i just spent 5 minutes googling this and i can't find anything definitive, so i'm unsure if that's a real fact or an invented fact.

(05-23-2014 11:21 AM)EMUAARON Wrote:  

(05-23-2014 08:53 AM)axeme Wrote:  

(05-23-2014 08:45 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-23-2014 07:19 AM)Slinkin Street Flash Wrote:  It just seems like moving from "playing sports while getting a college degree" to "playing sports at a college". Admittedly, I haven't looked closely at the educational program these students enroll in; to me it would make a big difference if they were enrolled in a masters program, as opposed to taking more undergraduate classes.

These are kids going for a graduate eduacation, not post bachelors work in basket weaving.

You know what classes they are taking next year? How would you know that?

i remember hearing that if you are a graduate transfer, you have to enroll in master's-level courses at your new school. i just spent 5 minutes googling this and i can't find anything definitive, so i'm unsure if that's a real fact or an invented fact.

I believe that you have to enroll in a graduate program that your current institution does not offer.