(04-11-2014 08:25 AM)pesik Wrote:  "That's at least 9 players that were consensus 3 star"??????? what? do you know what consensus means? you have 1 consensus 3 star ..ONE

Wrong. I don't just look at one recruiting service, I am looking at the composite ranking that is an average of ALL the top recruiting services.......


About 247Sports Composite:

The 247Sports Composite is a proprietary algorithm that compiles rankings and ratings listed in the public domain by the major media recruiting services, creating the industry's most comprehensive and unbiased prospect and team rankings.

http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Basketb...HighSchool

Unfortunately they were down last night for maintenance and don't have all their info back up for past class but I can assure you I wasn't lying about any of them. This is what they do have up.

2014 ECU #85 nationally ranked class
89 Tejada 3 stars
81 Bryant 3 stars

2013 ECU #91 Nationally ranked class
pictured above

As far as 2012 and 2011 I know PRC, Guilmette were high 3 stars and Zangari was 3 star as well. This isn't just one or two recruiting service either like you are picking and choosing from.

(04-11-2014 08:56 AM)billetingman1 Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:51 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:43 AM)billetingman1 Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:30 AM)Carolina Stang Wrote:  There are going to be a lot of quality transfers on the market this year, that is for sure. Even from places like App St.!

Sampson should go the Larry Brown route - get transfers in now, they sit out one year (and your record probably takes a hit because of that fact), reload for year 2 with quality recruits, and make a run.

But there is no way you can tell me with a straight face that UH will be better NEXT YEAR without House and Thomas. Don't lie to yourselves.

I will tell you we will have a better record...Both House and Thomas, played lazy, defense and Sampson won't tolerate that. We will go the JUCO route for a quick fix.

At this late date, the JC pond may be fished out for quality D-1 players. However, grad transfers looking for playing time might be a good option.

We will be fine trust me.....We will be better than 17-16.

I hope Houston improves. My point is the grad transfer route might be a better way of restocking the roster than going JUCO.

(04-11-2014 08:59 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:25 AM)pesik Wrote:  "That's at least 9 players that were consensus 3 star"??????? what? do you know what consensus means? you have 1 consensus 3 star ..ONE

Wrong. I don't just look at one recruiting service, I am looking at the composite ranking that is an average of ALL the top recruiting services.......


About 247Sports Composite:

The 247Sports Composite is a proprietary algorithm that compiles rankings and ratings listed in the public domain by the major media recruiting services, creating the industry's most comprehensive and unbiased prospect and team rankings.

http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Basketb...HighSchool



Unfortunately they were down last night for maintenance and don't have all their info back up for past class but I can assure you I wasn't lying about any of them. This is what they do have up.

2014 ECU #85 nationally ranked class
89 Tejada 3 stars
81 Bryant 3 stars

2013 ECU #91 Nationally ranked class
pictured above

As far as 2012 and 2011 I know PRC, Guilmette were high 3 stars and Zangari was 3 star as well. This isn't just one or two recruiting service either like you are picking and choosing from.

picking and choosing? you said consensus that means every site should replicate the same results
the fact that i was able to find 2 (not just 1) to disprove what you said isnt picking and choosing

(04-11-2014 08:43 AM)billetingman1 Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:30 AM)Carolina Stang Wrote:  There are going to be a lot of quality transfers on the market this year, that is for sure. Even from places like App St.!

Sampson should go the Larry Brown route - get transfers in now, they sit out one year (and your record probably takes a hit because of that fact), reload for year 2 with quality recruits, and make a run.

But there is no way you can tell me with a straight face that UH will be better NEXT YEAR without House and Thomas. Don't lie to yourselves.

I will tell you we will have a better record...Both House and Thomas, played lazy, defense and Sampson won't tolerate that. We will go the JUCO route for a quick fix.

that would be the best idea, or graduate transfers. I know Michigan has a few...

(04-11-2014 08:31 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:08 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 07:35 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 07:11 PM)Bg151 Wrote:  Retweeted by Danuel23House
Jim Hicks ‏@RcsSports 1h
After initially being denied, current University of Houston starters, Danuel House and TaShawn Thomas have filed an appeal to seek release!

Both good players, hate to see them go... I'm confident however, coach Sampson will have replacements soon.

Big difference between recruiting to IU and Whouston. They(House/Thomas) are by far your two best players. Good luck going forward, you are going to need it.

houston has dramatically better recruiting grounds than indiana, playing in c-usa and only made a tourney once in the last 20 years we were still able to recruit 6 atleast 4stars the last 5 years, sampson have a dramatically better resume than any previous coach the last 20 years and we are now in a dramatically better league, their's enough talent for us to be fine :-) thanks for trolling have a nice day

Houston does not have better recruiting grounds than Indiana, much less dramatically better recruiting grounds. Indiana recruits out of Indianapolis, the rest of Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky and Illinois, specifically around Chicago.

(04-11-2014 08:31 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:08 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 07:35 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 07:11 PM)Bg151 Wrote:  Retweeted by Danuel23House
Jim Hicks ‏@RcsSports 1h
After initially being denied, current University of Houston starters, Danuel House and TaShawn Thomas have filed an appeal to seek release!

Both good players, hate to see them go... I'm confident however, coach Sampson will have replacements soon.

Big difference between recruiting to IU and Whouston. They(House/Thomas) are by far your two best players. Good luck going forward, you are going to need it.

houston has dramatically better recruiting grounds than indiana, playing in c-usa and only made a tourney once in the last 20 years we were still able to recruit 6 atleast 4stars the last 5 years, sampson have a dramatically better resume than any previous coach the last 20 years and we are now in a dramatically better league, their's enough talent for us to be fine :-) thanks for trolling have a nice day

I would not expect a whouston fan to know much about bball, especilly hs bball. The state of Indiana plays some of the best hs bball in the country. Add to the fact that IU recruits at a much higher level than whouston could ever hope too. It's not trolling, when it's the truth. You just refuse to accept the reality of the situation. BLEAK at best.

(04-11-2014 09:21 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:31 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:08 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 07:35 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 07:11 PM)Bg151 Wrote:  Retweeted by Danuel23House
Jim Hicks ‏@RcsSports 1h
After initially being denied, current University of Houston starters, Danuel House and TaShawn Thomas have filed an appeal to seek release!

Both good players, hate to see them go... I'm confident however, coach Sampson will have replacements soon.

Big difference between recruiting to IU and Whouston. They(House/Thomas) are by far your two best players. Good luck going forward, you are going to need it.

houston has dramatically better recruiting grounds than indiana, playing in c-usa and only made a tourney once in the last 20 years we were still able to recruit 6 atleast 4stars the last 5 years, sampson have a dramatically better resume than any previous coach the last 20 years and we are now in a dramatically better league, their's enough talent for us to be fine :-) thanks for trolling have a nice day

Houston does not have better recruiting grounds than Indiana, much less dramatically better recruiting grounds. Indiana recruits out of Indianapolis, the rest of Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky and Illinois, specifically around Chicago.

you can't just throw all the adjacent states and say they recruit their aswell, because we could easily argue the same. again for a team that hasnt done anything in 30 years and playing in a 1bid c-usa we've a pretty decent recruiting team, imagine if actually started winning in the american

(04-11-2014 09:41 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 09:21 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:31 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:08 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 07:35 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Both good players, hate to see them go... I'm confident however, coach Sampson will have replacements soon.

Big difference between recruiting to IU and Whouston. They(House/Thomas) are by far your two best players. Good luck going forward, you are going to need it.

houston has dramatically better recruiting grounds than indiana, playing in c-usa and only made a tourney once in the last 20 years we were still able to recruit 6 atleast 4stars the last 5 years, sampson have a dramatically better resume than any previous coach the last 20 years and we are now in a dramatically better league, their's enough talent for us to be fine :-) thanks for trolling have a nice day

Houston does not have better recruiting grounds than Indiana, much less dramatically better recruiting grounds. Indiana recruits out of Indianapolis, the rest of Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky and Illinois, specifically around Chicago.

you can't just throw all the adjacent states and say they recruit their aswell, because we could easily argue the same. again for a team that hasnt done anything in 30 years and playing in a 1bid c-usa we've a pretty decent recruiting team, imagine if actually started winning in the american

Yes you can. IU is a a State flagship with several national titles under their belt. Houston is a large city public university that has a really good basketball pedigree, that recruits very well in and around Houston. However IU recruits the entire mid-west; always has. Hell two of IU's best all time players (Quinn Buckner and Isiah Thomas) are from Chicago.

I hope UH is able to block their tranfers. Gonna need those players.

blocking a transfer is coaching suicide...

those are local players if I am not mistaken, recruited by current SMU asst Ulric Maligi. if you want to ever recruit a local star to UH ever again, you let these guys go unless there is some egregious stuff going on (i.e., tampering).

(04-11-2014 09:35 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:31 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:08 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 07:35 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 07:11 PM)Bg151 Wrote:  Retweeted by Danuel23House
Jim Hicks ‏@RcsSports 1h
After initially being denied, current University of Houston starters, Danuel House and TaShawn Thomas have filed an appeal to seek release!

Both good players, hate to see them go... I'm confident however, coach Sampson will have replacements soon.

Big difference between recruiting to IU and Whouston. They(House/Thomas) are by far your two best players. Good luck going forward, you are going to need it.

houston has dramatically better recruiting grounds than indiana, playing in c-usa and only made a tourney once in the last 20 years we were still able to recruit 6 atleast 4stars the last 5 years, sampson have a dramatically better resume than any previous coach the last 20 years and we are now in a dramatically better league, their's enough talent for us to be fine :-) thanks for trolling have a nice day

I would not expect a whouston fan to know much about bball, especilly hs bball. The state of Indiana plays some of the best hs bball in the country. Add to the fact that IU recruits at a much higher level than whouston could ever hope too. It's not trolling, when it's the truth. You just refuse to accept the reality of the situation. BLEAK at best.

Lol. "Bleak" would be this loss of talent with Dickey at the helm. This is clearly a set back, but I'm willing to see how Sampson fills out the roster before writing off next year. A couple of serviceable bigs and maybe a nice guard, and we could still be better than this season. This year, defense was non-existent. Placing a consistent quality defense on the floor is going to make a big difference. House never seemed to put much effort into defense. That culture will change next year. Expectations are obviously lower, but here is still a chance for the team to be better than expected.

(04-11-2014 09:35 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:31 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:08 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 07:35 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 07:11 PM)Bg151 Wrote:  Retweeted by Danuel23House
Jim Hicks ‏@RcsSports 1h
After initially being denied, current University of Houston starters, Danuel House and TaShawn Thomas have filed an appeal to seek release!

Both good players, hate to see them go... I'm confident however, coach Sampson will have replacements soon.

Big difference between recruiting to IU and Whouston. They(House/Thomas) are by far your two best players. Good luck going forward, you are going to need it.

houston has dramatically better recruiting grounds than indiana, playing in c-usa and only made a tourney once in the last 20 years we were still able to recruit 6 atleast 4stars the last 5 years, sampson have a dramatically better resume than any previous coach the last 20 years and we are now in a dramatically better league, their's enough talent for us to be fine :-) thanks for trolling have a nice day

I would not expect a whouston fan to know much about bball, especilly hs bball. The state of Indiana plays some of the best hs bball in the country. Add to the fact that IU recruits at a much higher level than whouston could ever hope too. It's not trolling, when it's the truth. You just refuse to accept the reality of the situation. BLEAK at best.

since 98' 110 top 100 have come from texas, only 56 from indianna. and IU recruits at a higher level now because they been winning in a top bball conference. if we can get the ball rolling and start getting some tourney invites and geting some kids drafted it wont be that far of a strectch we can recruit at their level, look at smu, they have 2 mcdonalds all american, and are a very good chance to get another. and in houston alone the last 2 years their have been 7 5star guys in 30minute driving distance from campus highlighted by the harrison twins and justise wislow.

you are a troll stop hiding from who you are and be free

(04-11-2014 09:52 AM)pesik Wrote:  since 98' 110 top 100 have come from texas, only 56 from indianna.

How friggen big is Texas. If you are comparing you can certainly bring in areas like Chicago around Indiana that are just as close geographically as many parts of Texas.

(04-11-2014 10:13 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 09:52 AM)pesik Wrote:  since 98' 110 top 100 have come from texas, only 56 from indianna.

How friggen big is Texas. If you are comparing you can certainly bring in areas like Chicago around Indiana that are just as close geographically as many parts of Texas.

a good 85%+ are from the houston/dallas areas... texas is huge but the population is concentrated in east texas. west texas is a desert and what most people picture when they think texas

(04-11-2014 09:52 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 09:35 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:31 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:08 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 07:35 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Both good players, hate to see them go... I'm confident however, coach Sampson will have replacements soon.

Big difference between recruiting to IU and Whouston. They(House/Thomas) are by far your two best players. Good luck going forward, you are going to need it.

houston has dramatically better recruiting grounds than indiana, playing in c-usa and only made a tourney once in the last 20 years we were still able to recruit 6 atleast 4stars the last 5 years, sampson have a dramatically better resume than any previous coach the last 20 years and we are now in a dramatically better league, their's enough talent for us to be fine :-) thanks for trolling have a nice day

I would not expect a whouston fan to know much about bball, especilly hs bball. The state of Indiana plays some of the best hs bball in the country. Add to the fact that IU recruits at a much higher level than whouston could ever hope too. It's not trolling, when it's the truth. You just refuse to accept the reality of the situation. BLEAK at best.

since 98' 110 top 100 have come from texas, only 56 from indianna. and IU recruits at a higher level now because they been winning in a top bball conference. if we can get the ball rolling and start getting some tourney invites and geting some kids drafted it wont be that far of a strectch we can recruit at their level, look at smu, they have 2 mcdonalds all american, and are a very good chance to get another. and in houston alone the last 2 years their have been 7 5star guys in 30minute driving distance from campus highlighted by the harrison twins and justise wislow.

you are a troll stop hiding from who you are and be free

IU has always recruited at a higher level than Houston. Do you have any knowledge of Bobby Knight? The NCAA's last undefeated team? This not is not trolling Houston, because Houston has had some outstanding players (Elvin Hayes, Drexler and Olajuwon), but please do some research on IU.

I just don't understand. New NBA coach, a league that just proved itself. Maybe their minds were made up or there was some serious tampering going on.

(04-11-2014 10:20 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 09:52 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 09:35 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:31 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 08:08 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  Big difference between recruiting to IU and Whouston. They(House/Thomas) are by far your two best players. Good luck going forward, you are going to need it.

houston has dramatically better recruiting grounds than indiana, playing in c-usa and only made a tourney once in the last 20 years we were still able to recruit 6 atleast 4stars the last 5 years, sampson have a dramatically better resume than any previous coach the last 20 years and we are now in a dramatically better league, their's enough talent for us to be fine :-) thanks for trolling have a nice day

I would not expect a whouston fan to know much about bball, especilly hs bball. The state of Indiana plays some of the best hs bball in the country. Add to the fact that IU recruits at a much higher level than whouston could ever hope too. It's not trolling, when it's the truth. You just refuse to accept the reality of the situation. BLEAK at best.

since 98' 110 top 100 have come from texas, only 56 from indianna. and IU recruits at a higher level now because they been winning in a top bball conference. if we can get the ball rolling and start getting some tourney invites and geting some kids drafted it wont be that far of a strectch we can recruit at their level, look at smu, they have 2 mcdonalds all american, and are a very good chance to get another. and in houston alone the last 2 years their have been 7 5star guys in 30minute driving distance from campus highlighted by the harrison twins and justise wislow.

you are a troll stop hiding from who you are and be free

IU has always recruited at a higher level than Houston. Do you have any knowledge of Bobby Knight? The NCAA's last undefeated team? This not is not trolling Houston, because Houston has had some outstanding players (Elvin Hayes, Drexler and Olajuwon), but please do some research on IU.

those 3 players you just named are better and were more touted than any that has ever come out or gone into IU
(outside of arguably Isiah). bob knight was like Sampson that had teams that were built on coaching, their 75 team was probably their only stacked team, talent wise, while houston was the opposite and built teams on talent. we were upset by ncstate in the phi slamam jamma days but before the game that team was nicknamed the "greatest team ever assembled"
just throwing out knights names didnt prove anything why dont you go do some research yourself

(04-11-2014 08:02 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 07:20 PM)GoHouston Wrote:  WOW! Some of the worst possible news for the UH Basketball Program! I was sure hoping the team would see the value of the new coach.

The problem is, they do realize exactly who your coach is. A proven cheater. UH is going to struggle to make the cbi or whatever it's called. LOL!

Drunk at 8am? Nice....

Having a real coach is worth losing guys that can score but are not going to buy into the program. I still think Houston is an NIT team next season with a big jump coming the following year. Last year the Cougars had a great roster but didn't play defense and didn't really understand how to play winning basketball in a good conference. Sampson will bring in some solid players this season and the Cougars will be better off for it.

(04-11-2014 10:47 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  Having a real coach is worth losing guys that can score but are not going to buy into the program. I still think Houston is an NIT team next season with a big jump coming the following year. Last year the Cougars had a great roster but didn't play defense and didn't really understand how to play winning basketball in a good conference. Sampson will bring in some solid players this season and the Cougars will be better off for it.

Sure --- if you can hire a guy like Sampson, a guy who can turn around a program, you don't let a couple of players stand in your way. If they want to leave -- so be it.