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(04-11-2014 05:07 PM)jfisher Wrote:  What is a guy from South Florida suggesting Tulsa isn't good enough for the AAC............get out the records for both basketball and football(football and basketball history) and maybe the question is what is S Florida doing in the AAC??????

USF has a top 5 enrollment in America. One of the Top research universities. USF been in BCS for more than half a decade now. Football team has won games against Miami, Notre Dame. What are you talking about?
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Look, the AAC needs some top shelf academic institutions. It get's that with Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, and Navy.
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All of the USF fans on this board have been very welcoming.

Just be prepared for another bad football season. We are going to be awful.
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I was just suggesting you check out the football and basketball history of the two schools.......and compare them!!!
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(04-10-2014 08:19 AM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  I am a USF fan and I don't know too much about Tulsa. I was questioning the adding of Tulsa from the beginning. But later realized it wasn't too bad.

My major point against Tulsa is that the school has a small enrollment. That could turn to many different things like small fan-base and small alumni-base.

Tulsa is not a small city and it is actually top 50 population-wise in the US. But how is Tulsa University's support in Tulsa? I know Oklahoma is big in OU and OSU. How many people actually go to Tulsa football and basketball games? Is Tulsa a good research and academic institution?

Another good thing about Tulsa is that the town has no pro teams except WNBA.

But how is Tulsa going to turn out in the American? I know many of you will also bring up Tulane. But heck, Tulane was a power in football in the 90s. But what about Tulsa?

Tulsa has two "BIG" problems: OU and OSU. The B12 dominates the state of Oklahoma. Tulsa would have to consistently beat or be competitive against both schools. Last year’s blowout against OU can’t happen again if Tulsa is going to help build the American brand and image. Look at what UCF beating Baylor did for the American brand and image. In fact, UCF almost beating SCAR helped improve the image of the conference.

(04-12-2014 10:57 AM)panicstricken Wrote:  All of the USF fans on this board have been very welcoming.

Just be prepared for another bad football season. We are going to be awful.

I hope you’re wrong….. I only watched one Tulsa game and that was against OU. What the heck happened to the football program?
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(04-12-2014 01:20 PM)Underdog Wrote:  
(04-10-2014 08:19 AM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  I am a USF fan and I don't know too much about Tulsa. I was questioning the adding of Tulsa from the beginning. But later realized it wasn't too bad.

My major point against Tulsa is that the school has a small enrollment. That could turn to many different things like small fan-base and small alumni-base.

Tulsa is not a small city and it is actually top 50 population-wise in the US. But how is Tulsa University's support in Tulsa? I know Oklahoma is big in OU and OSU. How many people actually go to Tulsa football and basketball games? Is Tulsa a good research and academic institution?

Another good thing about Tulsa is that the town has no pro teams except WNBA.

But how is Tulsa going to turn out in the American? I know many of you will also bring up Tulane. But heck, Tulane was a power in football in the 90s. But what about Tulsa?

Tulsa has two "BIG" problems: OU and OSU. The B12 dominates the state of Oklahoma. Tulsa would have to consistently beat or be competitive against both schools. Last year’s blowout against OU can’t happen again if Tulsa is going to help build the American brand and image. Look at what UCF beating Baylor did for the American brand and image. In fact, UCF almost beating SCAR helped improve the image of the conference.

(04-12-2014 10:57 AM)panicstricken Wrote:  All of the USF fans on this board have been very welcoming.

Just be prepared for another bad football season. We are going to be awful.

I hope you’re wrong….. I only watched one Tulsa game and that was against OU. What the heck happened to the football program?

Bill Blankenship happened... The sooner he's gone the better. He's taken a decade of success and crapped on it all in the span of a year.

He make not make it through the whole season before getting canned.

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(04-12-2014 07:48 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  Look, the AAC needs some top shelf academic institutions. It get's that with Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, and Navy.

UConn is fairly highly ranked. Cincinnati, UCF, and USF were recently named among the top "up and coming" schools by US News.

Academically, this is not a bad conference. On whole, I'd say it's equal or better than the Big 12.
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What was wrong with Tulsa's football team 2013 season? The team soundly beat UCF twice 2012 season.

Any Tulsa fans here could give me some lectures?

Really hope Tulsa turn it around. What is your Out Conference like 2014?
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@ FAU @ Colorado State
Sooner, Texas State

Cody Green went wrong. His ineptitude was masked by a great O Line in 2012 and three really good running backs. We also had a guy that could pound the ball for 3 yards every time he touched it so short yardage downs were basically a gimme.

Our OC tried to run that same offense with a thin O line and no power fullback. It didnt work and Cody Green suckitude was on full display. We brought in a red shirt freshman (Dane Evans) who was just about as bad if not worse than Cody Green.

We lost a ton of starters and had a ton of injuries so you cant blame everything on the OC and HC. The OC was fired and Bill decided to hire his son (a guy who was 3-9 in his high school career) to right the ship.

Needless to say we aren't that optimistic.
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(04-12-2014 05:54 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  @ FAU @ Colorado State
Sooner, Texas State

Cody Green went wrong. His ineptitude was masked by a great O Line in 2012 and three really good running backs. We also had a guy that could pound the ball for 3 yards every time he touched it so short yardage downs were basically a gimme.

Our OC tried to run that same offense with a thin O line and no power fullback. It didnt work and Cody Green suckitude was on full display. We brought in a red shirt freshman (Dane Evans) who was just about as bad if not worse than Cody Green.

We lost a ton of starters and had a ton of injuries so you cant blame everything on the OC and HC. The OC was fired and Bill decided to hire his son (a guy who was 3-9 in his high school career) to right the ship.

Needless to say we aren't that optimistic.

I'm not going to lie...the situation doesn't look "Golden" for a ship caught in a "Hurricane"..... Your AD went along with that hire? I hope it works out, but I see your point....
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It was the previous AD.

Tulsa gets caught in the we dont want to be a stepping stone for coaches trap every once in a while and hires a grey hair thats an alum. Happened with John Phillips and crushed our basketball program in 2004. Give me guys who are ambitious and motivated to win at Tulsa because winning at Tulsa means a few million bucks a year somewhere else.

As UCONN learned one bad coach can crush a program quickly.
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(04-12-2014 05:54 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  @ FAU @ Colorado State
Sooner, Texas State

Cody Green went wrong. His ineptitude was masked by a great O Line in 2012 and three really good running backs. We also had a guy that could pound the ball for 3 yards every time he touched it so short yardage downs were basically a gimme.

Our OC tried to run that same offense with a thin O line and no power fullback. It didnt work and Cody Green suckitude was on full display. We brought in a red shirt freshman (Dane Evans) who was just about as bad if not worse than Cody Green.

We lost a ton of starters and had a ton of injuries so you cant blame everything on the OC and HC. The OC was fired and Bill decided to hire his son (a guy who was 3-9 in his high school career) to right the ship.

Needless to say we aren't that optimistic.

Who is going to be the starting QB 2014? Still Cody Green?
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Cody Green graduated.

Most likely Dane Evans. We got a pretty highly recruited kid out of Arkansas Jabe Burgess that will compete for the position.

Its hard to say if Dane sucks or if he was just not ready last year. His stats are awful but he was also thrown into a tough situation.

I honestly dont know who will be the QB. Bill didnt recruit any WR's that are worth a damn so it might not matter.

We just need a complete overhaul. It will get better but its most likely going to be bad next year.
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I'm also the most short sighted reactionary monday morning fan here so I wouldnt take my opinion to seriously.
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(04-10-2014 08:19 AM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  I am a USF fan and I don't know too much about Tulsa. I was questioning the adding of Tulsa from the beginning. But later realized it wasn't too bad.

My major point against Tulsa is that the school has a small enrollment. That could turn to many different things like small fan-base and small alumni-base.

Tulsa is not a small city and it is actually top 50 population-wise in the US. But how is Tulsa University's support in Tulsa? I know Oklahoma is big in OU and OSU. How many people actually go to Tulsa football and basketball games? Is Tulsa a good research and academic institution?

Another good thing about Tulsa is that the town has no pro teams except WNBA.

But how is Tulsa going to turn out in the American? I know many of you will also bring up Tulane. But heck, Tulane was a power in football in the 90s. But what about Tulsa?

no upside I wish we didn't add them
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(04-11-2014 08:35 AM)panicstricken Wrote:  There are two very large state schools that have consistent attendance. I guess uconn does ok when they are good.

Ive seen poor crowds at houston pathetic crowds at tulane smu and memphis.

Tulsa is not that much different than anyone else here

This will be the third conference that Memphis has shared with Tulsa. They will be a good member of our conference.

Those fans that express concern over Tulsa in most conferences usually see their teams losing to the Golden Hurricane soon.
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Don't tell UC fans but this will be the second conference they will share with us.
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(04-12-2014 07:52 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(04-10-2014 08:19 AM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  I am a USF fan and I don't know too much about Tulsa. I was questioning the adding of Tulsa from the beginning. But later realized it wasn't too bad.

My major point against Tulsa is that the school has a small enrollment. That could turn to many different things like small fan-base and small alumni-base.

Tulsa is not a small city and it is actually top 50 population-wise in the US. But how is Tulsa University's support in Tulsa? I know Oklahoma is big in OU and OSU. How many people actually go to Tulsa football and basketball games? Is Tulsa a good research and academic institution?

Another good thing about Tulsa is that the town has no pro teams except WNBA.

But how is Tulsa going to turn out in the American? I know many of you will also bring up Tulane. But heck, Tulane was a power in football in the 90s. But what about Tulsa?

no upside I wish we didn't add them

I'm not that thrilled to be in a conference with natty


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(04-11-2014 08:37 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(04-10-2014 08:29 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  Pros:

1) Tulsa fields competitive teams
2) Tulsa is a cool little town
3) Tulsa is located near many of our current member institutions
4) Good academics

Cons:

1) Sparse fan support

Unfortunately, that one con is a really, really big one.

But why? I hear this all the time about Tulsa but why does that really matter?

No fans = no money.

We happen to like money.
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(04-12-2014 08:12 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Don't tell UC fans but this will be the second conference they will share with us.

Yes it will.

For those old enough to remember.......

Rick Roberson VS Bingo Smith.........Jerry Rhome, Glenn Dobbs jr, Howard Twilley and the Golden Hurricane air force.
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