Ollie has the most secure job in the country. Coaches at SMU and Houston are on a honeymoon period.

But what about Cronin, Pastner and Dunphy? They have been at their jobs awhile and have combined for ONE Sweet 16 appearance. How does Ollie's win affect the warmth of their seats/expectations of their fan bases?

In particular, Ollie's win would seem to bring the most pressure on Pastner who makes over $2M a year, and Dunphy who just endured a terrible season.

Temple has no money to do anything about Dunphy. Cronin definitely needs to perform better in the post season. I have never been a believer in Pastner.

I think Cronin and Jamie Dixon are similar. Great defensive coaches with mediocre offenses. Pitino had an interesting interview a few weeks ago. He dispelled the saying that defense wins championships. He said everybody plays great defense in the NCAA tourney. He said the teams that advance are those who can still execute offensively against good defenses.

Speaking for Cronin his seat is just fine. Improved success almost every season. Improved recruiting almost every season. This was the first year his team semi choked in tourney. His sweet 16 appearance was with two great wins to get there. He has plenty of time to get his tourney resume better since he is young. No problem so far but expectations in cincy should be to get where Louisville and Uconn are. Same goes with mempis's expectations

UConn's NC raises the stakes for everyone in the American.

Which is something to be grateful for.

(04-08-2014 12:07 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  UConn's NC raises the stakes for everyone in the American.

Which is something to be grateful for.

Yes.

We are looking at you Lebo.

Ollie has become a star overnight, and it raises the bar for everyone.

I just don't understand why Memphis fans appear to be content with paying their coach $2mm for the results he has given them despite having some of the best fan support in the country. I just think Memphis Bball fans deserve to feel that they have a legit shot at a final four every year. Pastner sure can recruit, but I still say he has been a disappointment overall. I would flat out kill for a guy like Pastner at TU, but we are talking about a program that is top 10 in ticket sales every year despite playing against many many bad teams.

I dont see how people think there is massive pressure on Pastner for "only" winning 24 games, beating 5 ranked teams, beating Louisville twice, making the NCAA tourney and advancing to the round of 32.

The stakes are definitely raised for all AAC coaches and programs. The good news is that UConn's win should help recruiting for every AAC team. The championship validates that the AAC is a premier destination to play college basketball and that you can win titles if you come to play in this league.

AAC!!! AAC!!! AAC!!!

(04-08-2014 12:27 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I dont see how people think there is massive pressure on Pastner for "only" winning 24 games, beating 5 ranked teams, beating Louisville twice, making the NCAA tourney and advancing to the round of 32.

It's because of his past few seasons. This year was a massive improvement but would still be an average to below average season for schools with your fan support. Like I said, trips to the round of 32 would not be considered a success if I had 15k friends attending home games with me.

I watched a ton of Memphis games, talent wise they were without a doubt top 10 in the nation.

^ The last two years Pastner is 55-15, 2-2 in the NCAA tourney...2013 CUSA Coach of the Year.

Deff not ready to see him fired.

I have to agree with some of the minor criticism about Pastner. Is Pastner a good coach? He is a VERY good coach. Is Pastner an excellent coach? Well, the jury is still out. However, a school like Memphis with an excellent basketball fanbase deserves an excellent coach. Pastner needs to be given a little more time to produce, though, before we all rush to judgment.

Cronin at Cincy will be fine. He is an excellent coach and Cincy winning a title with him is only a matter of time.

Uconn will raise the profile of every school in the conference. This goes for women's basketball too. Rest of the AAC schools need to step it up and invest in their basketball programs. If you guys want to make the conference a good place for all the teams, people need to invest A LOT more into their sports programs than now. This means hire coaches like Kelvin Sampson and let them go out and get some top players. SMU landed a stud PG and rest of the AAC need to step it up in recruiting to match.

IMO,

Dunphy has next year to turn Temple around and land some top 150 recruits for 2015...If he doesn't, he is gone...

(04-08-2014 11:50 AM)natibeast21 Wrote:  Speaking for Cronin his seat is just fine. Improved success almost every season. Improved recruiting almost every season. This was the first year his team semi choked in tourney. His sweet 16 appearance was with two great wins to get there. He has plenty of time to get his tourney resume better since he is young. No problem so far but expectations in cincy should be to get where Louisville and Uconn are. Same goes with mempis's expectations

I don't think Cronin is on the hot seat either but I think there is a lot of room for improvement on the offensive side of the ball. Defense will only get you so far. You have to have players who can put the ball in the hole and it has to be more than one guy.

(04-08-2014 12:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  ^ The last two years Pastner is 55-15, 2-2 in the NCAA tourney...2013 CUSA Coach of the Year.

Deff not ready to see him fired.

I would definitely agree, but the bar (IMO) is set a bit too low for Memphis fans. I mean, I know it is just ESPN wackos, but you are not even a top25 team in these early polls. That should not be acceptable with your revenues. There should never be any question from anyone regarding Memphis's place in the college bbal world, the fan support is that good.

Pastner is fine. I don't understand fans of irrelevent basketball programs trying to take shots at him. There are some deeper reason he hasn't gotten the desired results and that reason has left this year. He finally has kids that will work hard and handlers that are not as bad. We should surprise next year with the year after being a contender with who memphis is going to land in 15

(04-08-2014 01:07 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 11:50 AM)natibeast21 Wrote:  Speaking for Cronin his seat is just fine. Improved success almost every season. Improved recruiting almost every season. This was the first year his team semi choked in tourney. His sweet 16 appearance was with two great wins to get there. He has plenty of time to get his tourney resume better since he is young. No problem so far but expectations in cincy should be to get where Louisville and Uconn are. Same goes with mempis's expectations

I don't think Cronin is on the hot seat either but I think there is a lot of room for improvement on the offensive side of the ball. Defense will only get you so far. You have to have players who can put the ball in the hole and it has to be more than one guy.

Similar to Wisconsin this year.

(04-08-2014 01:09 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote:  Pastner is fine. I don't understand fans of irrelevent basketball programs trying to take shots at him. There are some deeper reason he hasn't gotten the desired results and that reason has left this year. He finally has kids that will work hard and handlers that are not as bad. We should surprise next year with the year after being a contender with who memphis is going to land in 15

Nothing and I mean nothing pisses me off more than that crap. What if I told you I was a long time Celtics fan or I was changing my Bball fandom to Kentucky or Duke....at that point could my opinions be confronted on merit instead of childish potshots?

If Memphis fans are happy with Pastner's career to date, then congrats, I would not be given your support structure. 2013-14 was a clear improvement, but should in no way be the standard for that program (IMHO).