(04-07-2014 07:57 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 07:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 06:39 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 06:35 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 05:38 PM)Meatwad Wrote:  so baylor was a combination of low marquee and no interest in a bcs bowl game. interesting. i always thought it was the marquee teams that could be accused of disinterest since it's national championship or bust. but a team with no pedigree thumbing their nose at reaching a level they haven't before in their history? only you could come up with some nonsense like that. it's either or, can't be both.

Nobody wanted to play UCF. Nobody wanted to get stuck with playing them. No BCS bowl wanted them, and no BCS bowl team did. That's just the facts of the matter.

It simply had to be disappointing to Baylor to realize that UCF, and not a big-name team, was going to be their opponent.

I think it was much more about Baylor overlooking UCF (thinking they had it in the bag) than Baylor being disinterested/disappointed in the opponent.

I bet it was a combination of both. If you want to say it was 60% the former and 40% the latter I could buy that.

Baylor had to feel cheated by the matchups. They win the Big 12 and get stuck with UCF, while Oklahoma, a team they beat out, gets to play Alabama, a blue-chip, big-name program, in the Sugar Bowl.

agree quo

in college basketball the mid majors/non p5's are darlings in the ncaa tourney and everybody roots for a team like that to make a run (see Wichita State last year, or when VCU made a run, or George Mason, etc.).

in college football it's the opposite...under the old BCS system no P5 school wanted to play a non p5 "bcs buster" in a bcs game...and those games always had crap ratings vs other BCS bowls. Nobody wanted to watch those bowls vs the big name match ups etc. Baylor fans were not happy playing a non P5 school in UCF and that's just the reality. UCF was clearly the better team, no doubt but that is beside the point.

he is just stating that they were upset playing UCF. im sure they were...... but he is taking it to a whole another level with implying that this was the reason they lost.

(04-07-2014 08:00 PM)otown Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 07:57 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 07:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 06:39 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 06:35 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Nobody wanted to play UCF. Nobody wanted to get stuck with playing them. No BCS bowl wanted them, and no BCS bowl team did. That's just the facts of the matter.

It simply had to be disappointing to Baylor to realize that UCF, and not a big-name team, was going to be their opponent.

I think it was much more about Baylor overlooking UCF (thinking they had it in the bag) than Baylor being disinterested/disappointed in the opponent.

I bet it was a combination of both. If you want to say it was 60% the former and 40% the latter I could buy that.

Baylor had to feel cheated by the matchups. They win the Big 12 and get stuck with UCF, while Oklahoma, a team they beat out, gets to play Alabama, a blue-chip, big-name program, in the Sugar Bowl.

agree quo

in college basketball the mid majors/non p5's are darlings in the ncaa tourney and everybody roots for a team like that to make a run (see Wichita State last year, or when VCU made a run, or George Mason, etc.).

in college football it's the opposite...under the old BCS system no P5 school wanted to play a non p5 "bcs buster" in a bcs game...and those games always had crap ratings vs other BCS bowls. Nobody wanted to watch those bowls vs the big name match ups etc. Baylor fans were not happy playing a non P5 school in UCF and that's just the reality. UCF was clearly the better team, no doubt but that is beside the point.

he is just stating that they were upset playing UCF. im sure they were...... but he is taking it to a whole another level with implying that this was the reason they lost.

Briles was coaching for the Texas job. Baylor was also coming off a Big 12 title and playing in their first BCS bowl. They were ecstatic to be there. Perhaps we have different definitions of the word upset. Those Baylor players were dancing, gyrating, and bouncing up and down on the sidelines like Mexican jumping beans. They didn't have a care in the world.

(04-07-2014 04:52 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 04:01 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 03:53 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 03:45 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  You, as a USF fan, should WANT Aresco to beat the drum. The direct result of which will make things better for USF.

If Aresco can convince the P5 to make us AQ in the playoff system and media companies to pay us $20m per school, that would be awesome.

But I seriously doubt UCF winning the Fiesta Bowl against a low-marquee name Baylor squad that was disinterested in playing them will do it, nor will UConn winning basketball national titles that they would have won no matter what conference they played in will either.

To say nothing of the fact that a BIG chunk of our on-the-field/court prominence this past year was achieved by Louisville, a school that is no longer with us going forward.

2 points. As much as it pains me to say, UCF was just better than Baylor, and secondly, Baylor wasn't low marquee. They had actually made a name for themselves as high octane. I think they were fairly high marquee last year. By the way, Louisville won nothing in the AAC of significance this past year (football, men's basketball). They did win the AAC tournament, but nobody cares about that, only NCAA tourn.

31-6 record
Conference regular season co-champs
Conference tournament champions
Gave SMU its only home loss on the season
Sweet 16 (still a down year though for Louisville basketball)
Football 12-1
Defeated Miami 36-9 in the Leagues second best bowl tie in

You are on the drugs

I simply meant Louisville did not win the league's bcs bid or get to final 4 for the conf. Nothing else. I know u had a good year overall.

(04-07-2014 05:34 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 04:01 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 03:53 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 03:45 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  You, as a USF fan, should WANT Aresco to beat the drum. The direct result of which will make things better for USF.

If Aresco can convince the P5 to make us AQ in the playoff system and media companies to pay us $20m per school, that would be awesome.

But I seriously doubt UCF winning the Fiesta Bowl against a low-marquee name Baylor squad that was disinterested in playing them will do it, nor will UConn winning basketball national titles that they would have won no matter what conference they played in will either.

To say nothing of the fact that a BIG chunk of our on-the-field/court prominence this past year was achieved by Louisville, a school that is no longer with us going forward.

2 points. As much as it pains me to say, UCF was just better than Baylor, and secondly, Baylor wasn't low marquee. They had actually made a name for themselves as high octane. I think they were fairly high marquee last year. By the way, Louisville won nothing in the AAC of significance this past year (football, men's basketball). They did win the AAC tournament, but nobody cares about that, only NCAA tourn.

Do you really think Baylor was excited about being 'stuck' with UCF? They strive all these years to win the B12 and make a BCS bowl and instead of a big-name opponent like Alabama they get UCF? I can't help but think that impacted their motivation, and in football, motivation is huge.

As for UofL, they lost only to UCF, beat Miami in a bowl game, and were ranked all season long. They spent a lot more time in the top-10 than UCF or anyone else.

And in basketball, they tied for our regular season title, won the tournament, and were our marquee team nationally moreso than anyone until losing to Kentucky.

They were easily our most accomplished combined football+basketball school.

U are dead wrong. Have you actually ever played football before? Let's just say I have firsthand knowledge.

Every time u put one toe between the lines you respect the game by playing as hard as u can.

I know I am right.

(04-07-2014 07:54 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 07:02 PM)shere khan Wrote:  the real truth of the matter is that UCF was disappointed to have to play Baylor. lol

There is truth in that. UCF would have rather played a team like Alabama as well. But the impact had to be greater on Baylor, since they are on a higher-rung in the football hierarchy.

Both were disappointed in their opponent, but Baylor moreso.

Again I know firsthand u respect the game by playing as hard as u can every time one toe touches the field.

Baylor played as hard as they could the entire game.

(04-07-2014 08:34 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 07:54 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 07:02 PM)shere khan Wrote:  the real truth of the matter is that UCF was disappointed to have to play Baylor. lol

There is truth in that. UCF would have rather played a team like Alabama as well. But the impact had to be greater on Baylor, since they are on a higher-rung in the football hierarchy.

Both were disappointed in their opponent, but Baylor moreso.

Again I know firsthand u respect the game by playing as hard as u can every time one toe touches the field.

Baylor played as hard as they could the entire game.

(04-07-2014 03:45 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  By the way, Louisville won nothing in the AAC of significance this past year (football, men's basketball).

Louisville has given the American quite a bit this year.

- a ranked football team (1 of only 2).
- a bowl win over a P5 opponent (1 of only 2 wins in the post-season).
- a ranked basketball team (1 of 5)
- 3 NCAA credits (that the AAC will be cashing in on for the next 6 years)
- solid TV ratings in both major sports
- a negotiated exit that didn't involve court battles or mudslinging in the press

Louisville may not have won the BCS bid or made the Final Four this year, but they did contribute significantly to the American this year (both financially and by giving the conference ranked teams).

(04-07-2014 08:42 PM)UofLgrad07 Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 03:45 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  By the way, Louisville won nothing in the AAC of significance this past year (football, men's basketball).

Louisville has given the American quite a bit this year.

- a ranked football team (1 of only 2).
- a bowl win over a P5 opponent (1 of only 2 wins in the post-season).
- a ranked basketball team (1 of 5)
- 3 NCAA credits (that the AAC will be cashing in on for the next 6 years)
- solid TV ratings in both major sports
- a negotiated exit that didn't involve court battles or mudslinging in the press

Louisville may not have won the BCS bid or made the Final Four this year, but they did contribute significantly to the American this year (both financially and by giving the conference ranked teams).

Ok I'll admit. My choice of words was wrong. I should have just said u didn't win bcs bid or reach final 4. But u did have a good year. My bad.

(04-07-2014 08:42 PM)UofLgrad07 Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 03:45 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  By the way, Louisville won nothing in the AAC of significance this past year (football, men's basketball).

Louisville has given the American quite a bit this year.

- a ranked football team (1 of only 2).
- a bowl win over a P5 opponent (1 of only 2 wins in the post-season).
- a ranked basketball team (1 of 5)
- 3 NCAA credits (that the AAC will be cashing in on for the next 6 years)
- solid TV ratings in both major sports
- a negotiated exit that didn't involve court battles or mudslinging in the press

Louisville may not have won the BCS bid or made the Final Four this year, but they did contribute significantly to the American this year (both financially and by giving the conference ranked teams).

Yep and you are leaving in a honorable way

Quo- Quit trolling. I was at the game and I was right next to the Baylor players leaving the field. There were multiple Baylor players crying leaving the field. They left everything on the field but it wasn't enough. Their DB's were no match for UCF's WR's. They could have called holding on every deep ball (which they did on a bunch). In person it was pretty clear who had the better team.

if UCONN wins tonite we gotta get something good, ucf bcs bowl win, we've accomplished tons in our first year they gotta rewrite the college landscape.... four team playoff gonna piss of many FBS schools watch, next year you'll see an 8 team playoff and an access bowl. the aac will be P6, like the ole BIG EAST

(04-07-2014 03:53 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-07-2014 03:45 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  You, as a USF fan, should WANT Aresco to beat the drum. The direct result of which will make things better for USF.

If Aresco can convince the P5 to make us AQ in the playoff system and media companies to pay us $20m per school, that would be awesome.

But I seriously doubt UCF winning the Fiesta Bowl against a low-marquee name Baylor squad that was disinterested in playing them will do it, nor will UConn winning basketball national titles that they would have won no matter what conference they played in will either.

To say nothing of the fact that a BIG chunk of our on-the-field/court prominence this past year was achieved by Louisville, a school that is no longer with us going forward.

Are you the only one that likes to hear you talk? Well most of us don't!

Great first year for the conference. Now we need to match it next year

To say someone was disappointed to play someone they lost to is simply beyond stupid.

"I'm better than you... I should not have to play you... Oops! I just lost to you..."

AAC= power conference.

(04-07-2014 10:28 PM)Bull Wrote:  To say someone was disappointed to play someone they lost to is simply beyond stupid.

"I'm better than you... I should not have to play you... Oops! I just lost to you..."

Yeah that's BS talk from those trying to not give credit. If you win the other team didn't try if you lose you didn't belong see. See there is no win in that game.

Mc Murphy has already tweeted the American undefeated in BCS Bowl game and Final Four.

The AAC IS a power conference! Way to go UConn!

Mike Aresco: "Tell these kids they're not a power (5) team. Tell UCF they're not a power (5) team. We will let the country decide."

(04-07-2014 11:01 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Mike Aresco: "Tell these kids they're not a power (5) team. Tell UCF they're not a power (5) team. We will let the country decide."

NICE!!!!!!!

Not real hard to beat that drum right now.