(04-06-2014 01:25 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 12:53 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 11:49 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  and never will. Eat it Obama.

+1

You and me against the world, gts. Thanks for your board service.

I just cut over to contracting so I have a decision to make as to weather or not to sign up... I have another month on my previous insurance. I may take cobra after that for a while.

(04-06-2014 03:57 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:35 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:28 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:21 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:15 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Veto

A republican president won't veto it.

It can't be repealed by a simple majority in the senate. The earliest a repeal bill would have a change of going through both houses and be placed on the President's desk and signed would be some time in2017.

Why couldn't a republican president just do the executive order things his first day in office in 2017 and bypass Congress all together? If Obama can change the law over 30 times then surely another president can change it once.

You will just have to read up on you constitutional law. The executive branch has the authority is make adjustments in order to carry out the law. It doesn't have authority to repeal it.

Except DOMA right?

(04-06-2014 03:52 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Things are getting better whether the detractors are willing to accept that fact or not.

A few people given health insurance does not a better health care system make.

(04-06-2014 07:40 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:57 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:35 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:28 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:21 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  A republican president won't veto it.

It can't be repealed by a simple majority in the senate. The earliest a repeal bill would have a change of going through both houses and be placed on the President's desk and signed would be some time in2017.

Why couldn't a republican president just do the executive order things his first day in office in 2017 and bypass Congress all together? If Obama can change the law over 30 times then surely another president can change it once.,

You will just have to read up on you constitutional law. The executive branch has the authority is make adjustments in order to carry out the law. It doesn't have authority to repeal it.

Except DOMA right?

. . . And any number of immigrations laws. Not to mention the laws that he enforces despite the fact that they don't exist, like the dream act.

(04-06-2014 07:46 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:52 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Things are getting better whether the detractors are willing to accept that fact or not.

A few people given health insurance does not a better health care system make.

Especially when he starts driving the insurance companies out of business because they killed his mommy.

(04-06-2014 03:35 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:28 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:21 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:15 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 02:11 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  It is a damn good thing that this whole ACA debacle can be repealed with a simple majority in the senate. Thank you dirty harry for opening that door.

Veto

A republican president won't veto it.

It can't be repealed by a simple majority in the senate. The earliest a repeal bill would have a change of going through both houses and be placed on the President's desk and signed would be some time in2017.

Why couldn't a republican president just do the executive order things his first day in office in 2017 and bypass Congress all together? If Obama can change the law over 30 times then surely another president can change it once.

Because the 20+ million Americans that will already be on Obamacare by the 2016 elections will ensure that a Republican that advocates changes from a means based solution to healthcare will not be elected. My prediction is that by 2016, there will be 20-25 million Americans on Obamacare. And about half of them will be normal Republican voters. My guess is they, like I, will be very happy with their coverage. You do the math.

You might take the Senate in 2014. But this is going to quickly turn around on you guys.

(04-06-2014 08:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:35 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:28 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:21 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:15 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Veto

A republican president won't veto it.

It can't be repealed by a simple majority in the senate. The earliest a repeal bill would have a change of going through both houses and be placed on the President's desk and signed would be some time in2017.

Why couldn't a republican president just do the executive order things his first day in office in 2017 and bypass Congress all together? If Obama can change the law over 30 times then surely another president can change it once.

Because the 20+ million Americans that will already be on Obamacare by the 2016 elections will ensure that a Republican that advocates changes from a means based solution to healthcare will not be elected. My prediction is that by 2016, there will be 20-25 million Americans on Obamacare. And about half of them will be normal Republican voters. My guess is they, like I, will be very happy with their coverage. You do the math.

You might take the Senate in 2014. But this is going to quickly turn around on you guys.

there are plenty of bombs yet to go off, and the cancellations aren't over yet. This law hasn't found bottom yet in terms of public disapproval.

(04-06-2014 08:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:35 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:28 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:21 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 03:15 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Veto

A republican president won't veto it.

It can't be repealed by a simple majority in the senate. The earliest a repeal bill would have a change of going through both houses and be placed on the President's desk and signed would be some time in2017.

Why couldn't a republican president just do the executive order things his first day in office in 2017 and bypass Congress all together? If Obama can change the law over 30 times then surely another president can change it once.

Because the 20+ million Americans that will already be on Obamacare by the 2016 elections will ensure that a Republican that advocates changes from a means based solution to healthcare will not be elected. My prediction is that by 2016, there will be 20-25 million Americans on Obamacare. And about half of them will be normal Republican voters. My guess is they, like I, will be very happy with their coverage. You do the math.

You might take the Senate in 2014. But this is going to quickly turn around on you guys.

Seriously bro, do you live in FantasyLand? Because none of what you post will ever come to fruition. NONE! Nearly 2/3rds of Americans want this law repealed. But, since you're part of the 1/3rd who like the law, you'll just pull some nonsense out of your a$$ to dismiss me.

(04-06-2014 08:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Because the 20+ million Americans that will already be on Obamacare by the 2016 elections will ensure that a Republican that advocates changes from a means based solution to healthcare will not be elected. My prediction is that by 2016, there will be 20-25 million Americans on Obamacare. And about half of them will be normal Republican voters. My guess is they, like I, will be very happy with their coverage. You do the math.
You might take the Senate in 2014. But this is going to quickly turn around on you guys.

It will get really interesting when those 20-25 million find out--along with everyone else--that health insurance is not health CARE.

The difference between your expectations and mine are that you expect that quality health care will somehow be available on a timely basis to anyone who has health insurance. I don't. I am quite certain that, for at least the 85% or so of us who had health insurance before Obamacare, the net effect will be paying more to wait longer for worse care. Democrats are clearly hoping that they can phase this in slowly enough that nobody notices that their health CARE went to crap. It'll be interesting to see if they are clever enough to pull off their deception.

Fine him.

(04-06-2014 08:42 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Fine him.

Or give him a pen to sign the waiver.

(04-06-2014 08:59 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 08:42 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Fine him.

Or give him a pen to sign the waiver.

Or go online a check a blue box. or just ignore the whole damn thing. It's not like this is going to be enforced anytime soon.

This law is becoming a joke.

It's going to be awesome to watch all these right-wing losers fall into line when their political masters pivot away from repeal.

(04-06-2014 10:18 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  It's going to be awesome to watch all these right-wing losers fall into line when their political masters pivot away from repeal.

Just like I've fallen in line behind Boehner not having the balls to balance the budget or cut anything right?

(04-06-2014 10:18 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  It's going to be awesome to watch all these right-wing losers fall into line when their political masters pivot away from repeal.

You say that as most democrats distance themselves from Obama, Obamacare, and prepare to lose the senate in a few months. Embrace the suck.