Was interesting watching how quickly a teams psyche can change over the course of a few minutes, and change that team from the #1 team in the country to a unit that completely doubts themselves.

That seems to be the theme this entire season, and it certainly was with us. When we believed, we played shutdown defense to close out games against Louisville and Gonzaga. When we didn't we looked like a team that couldn't beat 5 guys from this board if we wore Virginia jerseys and convinced them we were something of which to be intimidated.

UConn and Kentuckys turnarounds, all based on a tweak of the psyche and not Xs and Os, is incredible. What happened to Florida in game is exactly what we experienced from game to game.

There are plenty on here who don't believe players can mentally be rattled out of a game....I was mocked for suggesting that missed early bunnies against Virginia did that to us


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(04-06-2014 11:36 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  There are plenty on here who don't believe players can mentally be rattled out of a game....I was mocked for suggesting that missed early bunnies against Virginia did that to us


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You do realize a coach does have some control over that...

Some coaches really understand their team and know when to stop and talk to them...Hell Call called a timeout 1 minute into the second 1/2 last night after only 1 3 pointer was made...Didn't seem necessary at the time but he understands his guys.

(04-06-2014 12:13 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 11:36 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  There are plenty on here who don't believe players can mentally be rattled out of a game....I was mocked for suggesting that missed early bunnies against Virginia did that to us


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You do realize a coach does have some control over that...

Some coaches really understand their team and know when to stop and talk to them...Hell Call called a timeout 1 minute into the second 1/2 last night after only 1 3 pointer was made...Didn't seem necessary at the time but he understands his guys.

Kevin Ollie also. UCONN was down to late MSU and down big to Florida. I would like to hear what these coaches say in those timeouts.

(04-06-2014 12:13 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 11:36 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  There are plenty on here who don't believe players can mentally be rattled out of a game....I was mocked for suggesting that missed early bunnies against Virginia did that to us


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You do realize a coach does have some control over that...

Some coaches really understand their team and know when to stop and talk to them...Hell Call called a timeout 1 minute into the second 1/2 last night after only 1 3 pointer was made...Didn't seem necessary at the time but he understands his guys.

Things like this are where the board gets it's divide. A simple post about players being rattled gets turned over to coaching.


Yes, I fully understand what you are saying. Are you also implying that when we call to's in similar situations we didn't try any to adjust?


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(04-06-2014 11:36 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  There are plenty on here who don't believe players can mentally be rattled out of a game....I was mocked for suggesting that missed early bunnies against Virginia did that to us


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They did, but the switch was already hardwired into us after recent beatdowns to Cincy and UConn. Going from playing well to falling apart and losing all confidence was becoming a habit, and we all knew we had little chance in the NCAA because we are one of the most easily rattled teams out there.

What was interesting about Florida was they didn't have the same hardwire for it. However, after winning 30 games in a row, similar to Wichita, they may have been rattled by the ramification of the bursting balloon if they were to actually lose. Whatever the case, Florida went from the juggernaut they had become, to no different or better than we were when UConn slaughtered us. When Wilbekin turned the ball over on two straight possessions, he had become a shell of what he had been all season, and Im not sure if an injury had as much to do with it, or if there was something psycho-somatic that brought the injury about so that his ego could still hold that his team was undefeated when he played without injury

(04-06-2014 12:56 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 12:13 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 11:36 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  There are plenty on here who don't believe players can mentally be rattled out of a game....I was mocked for suggesting that missed early bunnies against Virginia did that to us


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You do realize a coach does have some control over that...

Some coaches really understand their team and know when to stop and talk to them...Hell Call called a timeout 1 minute into the second 1/2 last night after only 1 3 pointer was made...Didn't seem necessary at the time but he understands his guys.

Things like this are where the board gets it's divide. A simple post about players being rattled gets turned over to coaching.


Yes, I fully understand what you are saying. Are you also implying that when we call to's in similar situations we didn't try any to adjust?


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At that point it is not about the schemes...

It is about getting your team to believe in them

It must not be that easy to accomplish when your team is going down the drain.

I watched Coach Roy Williams melt down on the bench one year his team got rattled in the NCAA tournament and fell embarassingly far behind. But if I recall correctly, it was psycho T that brought them back, though they lost.

When we got rattled during that last NCAA tourney game that Cal coached, wasn't it Taggart who got tough and brought us to within striking distance?

In the first Atlantis game that Geron played, he came in and rallied the stricken. I tink we won the last game because of his toughness, but just an opinion

(04-06-2014 02:34 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 12:56 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 12:13 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 11:36 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  There are plenty on here who don't believe players can mentally be rattled out of a game....I was mocked for suggesting that missed early bunnies against Virginia did that to us


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You do realize a coach does have some control over that...

Some coaches really understand their team and know when to stop and talk to them...Hell Call called a timeout 1 minute into the second 1/2 last night after only 1 3 pointer was made...Didn't seem necessary at the time but he understands his guys.

Things like this are where the board gets it's divide. A simple post about players being rattled gets turned over to coaching.


Yes, I fully understand what you are saying. Are you also implying that when we call to's in similar situations we didn't try any to adjust?


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At that point it is not about the schemes...

It is about getting your team to believe in them

It is about getting your team to believe in themselves. Has nothing to do with X's and O's.

(04-06-2014 02:49 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  It must not be that easy to accomplish when your team is going down the drain.

I watched Coach Roy Williams melt down on the bench one year his team got rattled in the NCAA tournament and fell embarassingly far behind. But if I recall correctly, it was psycho T that brought them back, though they lost.

When we got rattled during that last NCAA tourney game that Cal coached, wasn't it Taggart who got tough and brought us to within striking distance?

In the first Atlantis game that Geron played, he came in and rallied the stricken. I tink we won the last game because of his toughness, but just an opinion

Pretty sure it was Dozier that started the run. Once he got going, Anderson got going too. Tyreke had a good game all together. I remember we got down 24, and then it started with a 11 or 13 to 0 run that I think got started by Dozier

(04-06-2014 04:32 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 02:34 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 12:56 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 12:13 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 11:36 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  There are plenty on here who don't believe players can mentally be rattled out of a game....I was mocked for suggesting that missed early bunnies against Virginia did that to us


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You do realize a coach does have some control over that...

Some coaches really understand their team and know when to stop and talk to them...Hell Call called a timeout 1 minute into the second 1/2 last night after only 1 3 pointer was made...Didn't seem necessary at the time but he understands his guys.

Things like this are where the board gets it's divide. A simple post about players being rattled gets turned over to coaching.


Yes, I fully understand what you are saying. Are you also implying that when we call to's in similar situations we didn't try any to adjust?


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At that point it is not about the schemes...

It is about getting your team to believe in them

It is about getting your team to believe in themselves. Has nothing to do with X's and O's.

True it all starts there.

(04-06-2014 05:01 PM)alcalde Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 02:49 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  It must not be that easy to accomplish when your team is going down the drain.

I watched Coach Roy Williams melt down on the bench one year his team got rattled in the NCAA tournament and fell embarassingly far behind. But if I recall correctly, it was psycho T that brought them back, though they lost.

When we got rattled during that last NCAA tourney game that Cal coached, wasn't it Taggart who got tough and brought us to within striking distance?

In the first Atlantis game that Geron played, he came in and rallied the stricken. I tink we won the last game because of his toughness, but just an opinion

Pretty sure it was Dozier that started the run. Once he got going, Anderson got going too. Tyreke had a good game all together. I remember we got down 24, and then it started with a 11 or 13 to 0 run that I think got started by Dozier

You are probably right. For some reason I remember Taggart in there too. The only reason I remember this is because it was surprising. I can still see his satisfied face when he did something good twice.

the group of individuals that play in the fedex forum have NO FIGHT...miss a few early shots...game over...coach has no ability to motivate nor make adjustments...just folded arms and smirking smile...

(04-06-2014 12:46 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Kevin Ollie also. UCONN was down to late MSU and down big to Florida. I would like to hear what these coaches say in those timeouts.

"Listen guys...they got good players...they are well coached...they are making shots...we gotta make some shots..."

Very late in the game- Florida slumped.

They slumped because they were going to lose.

They did not lose because they were slumping. There was no sea change with them- they simply missed too many shots- and were unable to score inside. UConn played well.

With that- no question that early in the Virginia game- the missed bunnies had an effect. It should not have, but it did. When UVA started their run it should not have given them the lead- but should have only gotten them closer.

Florida looked to simply be outplayed- and I did not see body language or anything of the like until it was basically out of reach- and even then Patric Young was diving out of bounds.

It was about basketball- not psyche.

I think most people understood that Fla was the best team in the country, but they weren't a great offensive team and were a little shaky with their shooting so they were vulnerable to a team really clicking on all cylinders.

In my view, this is what happened.

I'll always believe that Fla was the best team in the country in 2013-14, they just weren't the national champions.

Much like us in 2009.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketba...of-a-title

(04-07-2014 02:42 PM)alcalde Wrote:  http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketba...of-a-title

hmmmmm