(04-08-2014 04:25 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:23 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:21 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:19 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm kinda with Paul. I understand adults have urges and want to engage in sexual activity. But if you have HIV/Aids, maybe you shouldn't act on those urges.. That's just me.

About a year ago, a guy in MS had unprotected sex with several people because he was mad he had Aids. He didn't tell a single person.

I think EVERYONE intelligent agrees that unprotected sex is wrong when one person has HIV. Even worse is failing to disclose.


But with medication and protection the risk can drop to near zero.

I'm sure it can. I guess my thought process and it might be a bit backwoods is, I wouldn't want to put myself in that position.

Not backwoods at all. I find myself in the same opinion. I PERSONALLY would choose not to engage in it unless the risk % was ZERO. .01% still makes me nervous. What bothers me is Paul wanting to control other people's adult choices w/ their own bodies.

Very unrepublican of him really. OR rather.... VERY republican of him.

Hang on a sec, let me go back and read my posts.

Ok, I'm back. Yeah, um, no, I've said no such thing.

(04-08-2014 04:34 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:25 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:23 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:21 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:19 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I'm kinda with Paul. I understand adults have urges and want to engage in sexual activity. But if you have HIV/Aids, maybe you shouldn't act on those urges.. That's just me.

About a year ago, a guy in MS had unprotected sex with several people because he was mad he had Aids. He didn't tell a single person.

I think EVERYONE intelligent agrees that unprotected sex is wrong when one person has HIV. Even worse is failing to disclose.


But with medication and protection the risk can drop to near zero.

I'm sure it can. I guess my thought process and it might be a bit backwoods is, I wouldn't want to put myself in that position.

Not backwoods at all. I find myself in the same opinion. I PERSONALLY would choose not to engage in it unless the risk % was ZERO. .01% still makes me nervous. What bothers me is Paul wanting to control other people's adult choices w/ their own bodies.

Very unrepublican of him really. OR rather.... VERY republican of him.

Hang on a sec, let me go back and read my posts.

Ok, I'm back. Yeah, um, no, I've said no such thing.

Quote:Anyone with HIV/AIDS should abstain from relations with another completely.

Sounds pretty finite to me.


But whatever. The argument has run it's course.


TLDR thread
Sex is risky. Protection and medication can reduce risks to near zero. Some people are willing to take the risk and that is their prerogative. Paul condemns those people. I do not. Neither of us wishes to take the risk ourselves. Paul doesn't have risk involved sex, therefore Paul is a virgin.

/endthread

(04-08-2014 04:26 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:25 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:14 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:12 PM)Paul M Wrote:  I really can't stomach people with such a cavalier attitude about such matters. People who can't control their own urges and put their own desires above others health.

THERE IS PROTECTION AND PREVENTATIVE MEDICATION YOU DOLT. Are we now expecting to reduce any and all STI victims to a life of celibacy?

NOT FULL PROOF GENIUS.

Yes, it's up to those involved if they want to take risks. But anyone who lies about the risks is despicable. Trying to convince someone that with drugs and condoms they're safe is a lie.

Near zero wouldn't be good enough for me.

Now you're back tracking. At first you said no one should.... now you say it's their choice? Which is it?
Any and every time you have sex you put yourself at risk for a multitude of diseases/infections. Ever hear the herpes stats?


So thank you for informing us all you're one big ole virgin Paul. Or a hypocrite. You get to pick :)

Jeez, can you understand words? No backtracking. No one should. Their choice. No conflict there.

(04-08-2014 04:37 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:34 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:25 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:23 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:21 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  I think EVERYONE intelligent agrees that unprotected sex is wrong when one person has HIV. Even worse is failing to disclose.


But with medication and protection the risk can drop to near zero.

I'm sure it can. I guess my thought process and it might be a bit backwoods is, I wouldn't want to put myself in that position.

Not backwoods at all. I find myself in the same opinion. I PERSONALLY would choose not to engage in it unless the risk % was ZERO. .01% still makes me nervous. What bothers me is Paul wanting to control other people's adult choices w/ their own bodies.

Very unrepublican of him really. OR rather.... VERY republican of him.

Hang on a sec, let me go back and read my posts.

Ok, I'm back. Yeah, um, no, I've said no such thing.

Quote:Anyone with HIV/AIDS should abstain from relations with another completely.

Sounds pretty finite to me.

OK. Pretty clear. You don't understand words.

Jeez, another college dumb***.

But whatever. The argument has run it's course.


TLDR thread
Sex is risky. Protection and medication can reduce risks to near zero. Some people are willing to take the risk and that is their prerogative. Paul condemns those people. I do not. Neither of us wishes to take the risk ourselves. Paul doesn't have risk involved sex, all sex carries risk, therefore Paul is a virgin.

/endthread

(04-08-2014 04:41 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  But whatever. The argument has run it's course.


TLDR thread
Gay Sex is risky. Protection and medication can reduce risks to near zero. Some people are willing to take the risk and that is their prerogative. Paul condemns those people. I do not. Neither of us wishes to take the risk ourselves. Paul doesn't have risk involved sex, all sex carries risk, therefore Paul is a virgin.

/endthread

FIFY

(04-09-2014 07:39 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:41 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  But whatever. The argument has run it's course.


TLDR thread
Gay Sex is risky. Protection and medication can reduce risks to near zero. Some people are willing to take the risk and that is their prerogative. Paul condemns those people. I do not. Neither of us wishes to take the risk ourselves. Paul doesn't have risk involved sex, all sex carries risk, therefore Paul is a virgin.

/endthread

FIFY

That is the dumbest correction I've ever seen. ALL sex carries risk.

(04-09-2014 03:15 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 07:39 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:41 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  But whatever. The argument has run it's course.


TLDR thread
Gay Sex is risky. Protection and medication can reduce risks to near zero. Some people are willing to take the risk and that is their prerogative. Paul condemns those people. I do not. Neither of us wishes to take the risk ourselves. Paul doesn't have risk involved sex, all sex carries risk, therefore Paul is a virgin.

/endthread

FIFY

That is the dumbest correction I've ever seen. ALL sex carries risk.

Untrue. I have zero-risk sex about 5-7 times per week.

(04-04-2014 07:14 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Quote:Three gay men sickened from meningitis in L.A. County have died, the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health said Thursday.

The department announced earlier this week that there have been eight cases of invasive meningococcal disease in the county so far this year. Four cases occurred in men who have sex with men. On Thursday, officials said three of them had died, officials said. The victims were 27 or 28.

Some of those sickened lived or socialized in West Hollywood and North Hollywood, officials said.

The county will provide free vaccinations for patients without health insurance, starting Thursday. Those interested can call 211 or visit the department's website to get a listing of provider clinics.

Invasive meningococcal disease stems from a rare bacterial infection that can spread to the blood, brain or spinal cord and can affect the entire body -- sometimes causing death.

It is spread by close exposure to sneezing or coughing or direct contact with saliva or nose mucus -- though it's less contagious than influenza, the health department said.

Activities associated with risk for the illness include smoking, close contact with an infected person such as kissing or sharing beverages or cigarettes, and living in group settings for prolonged periods.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me...z2xv2JbZto

I wonder how long it will be before the left uses this as another excuse to try to make people stop smoking cigarettes, while promoting the legalization of marijuana.

(04-08-2014 04:41 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  But whatever. The argument has run it's course.


TLDR thread
Sex is risky. Protection and medication can reduce risks to near zero. Some people are willing to take the risk and that is their prerogative. Paul condemns those people. I do not. Neither of us wishes to take the risk ourselves. Paul doesn't have risk involved sex, all sex carries risk, therefore Paul is a virgin.

/endthread

Medication? The ONLY risk free sex for a hetero is a condom. Since the anus isn't a self lubricating organ like the vulva, friction could tear a hole in the condom easily. Plus, without the risk of pregnancy on hand, two men wouldn't see the need for condoms, especially if they are in a relationship.

(04-09-2014 03:42 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(04-04-2014 07:14 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Quote:Three gay men sickened from meningitis in L.A. County have died, the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health said Thursday.

The department announced earlier this week that there have been eight cases of invasive meningococcal disease in the county so far this year. Four cases occurred in men who have sex with men. On Thursday, officials said three of them had died, officials said. The victims were 27 or 28.

Some of those sickened lived or socialized in West Hollywood and North Hollywood, officials said.

The county will provide free vaccinations for patients without health insurance, starting Thursday. Those interested can call 211 or visit the department's website to get a listing of provider clinics.

Invasive meningococcal disease stems from a rare bacterial infection that can spread to the blood, brain or spinal cord and can affect the entire body -- sometimes causing death.

It is spread by close exposure to sneezing or coughing or direct contact with saliva or nose mucus -- though it's less contagious than influenza, the health department said.

Activities associated with risk for the illness include smoking, close contact with an infected person such as kissing or sharing beverages or cigarettes, and living in group settings for prolonged periods.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me...z2xv2JbZto

I wonder how long it will be before the left uses this as another excuse to try to make people stop smoking cigarettes, while promoting the legalization of marijuana.

Wait, are you arguing that people shouldn't stop smoking?

(04-09-2014 03:47 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:41 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  But whatever. The argument has run it's course.


TLDR thread
Sex is risky. Protection and medication can reduce risks to near zero. Some people are willing to take the risk and that is their prerogative. Paul condemns those people. I do not. Neither of us wishes to take the risk ourselves. Paul doesn't have risk involved sex, all sex carries risk, therefore Paul is a virgin.

/endthread

Medication? The ONLY risk free sex for a hetero is a condom. Since the anus isn't a self lubricating organ like the vulva, friction could tear a hole in the condom easily. Plus, without the risk of pregnancy on hand, two men wouldn't see the need for condoms, especially if they are in a relationship.

I don't think you know what 'risk free' means if you think that heterosexual sex using a condom is risk free.

All sex carries a risk of transmitting diseases, certain types more than others, but you should leave the medical statements to those who have a basic understanding of physiology and immunology.

(04-10-2014 02:39 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 03:47 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:41 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  But whatever. The argument has run it's course.


TLDR thread
Sex is risky. Protection and medication can reduce risks to near zero. Some people are willing to take the risk and that is their prerogative. Paul condemns those people. I do not. Neither of us wishes to take the risk ourselves. Paul doesn't have risk involved sex, all sex carries risk, therefore Paul is a virgin.

/endthread

Medication? The ONLY risk free sex for a hetero is a condom. Since the anus isn't a self lubricating organ like the vulva, friction could tear a hole in the condom easily. Plus, without the risk of pregnancy on hand, two men wouldn't see the need for condoms, especially if they are in a relationship.

I don't think you know what 'risk free' means if you think that heterosexual sex using a condom is risk free.

All sex carries a risk of transmitting diseases, certain types more than others, but you should leave the medical statements to those who have a basic understanding of physiology and immunology.

We're talking to doorknobs here.

(04-10-2014 02:39 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 03:47 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:41 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  But whatever. The argument has run it's course.


TLDR thread
Sex is risky. Protection and medication can reduce risks to near zero. Some people are willing to take the risk and that is their prerogative. Paul condemns those people. I do not. Neither of us wishes to take the risk ourselves. Paul doesn't have risk involved sex, all sex carries risk, therefore Paul is a virgin.

/endthread

Medication? The ONLY risk free sex for a hetero is a condom. Since the anus isn't a self lubricating organ like the vulva, friction could tear a hole in the condom easily. Plus, without the risk of pregnancy on hand, two men wouldn't see the need for condoms, especially if they are in a relationship.

I don't think you know what 'risk free' means if you think that heterosexual sex using a condom is risk free.

All sex carries a risk of transmitting diseases, certain types more than others, but you should leave the medical statements to those who have a basic understanding of physiology and immunology.

False. Man and wife carries no risk.

(04-10-2014 02:37 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 03:42 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(04-04-2014 07:14 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Quote:Three gay men sickened from meningitis in L.A. County have died, the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health said Thursday.

The department announced earlier this week that there have been eight cases of invasive meningococcal disease in the county so far this year. Four cases occurred in men who have sex with men. On Thursday, officials said three of them had died, officials said. The victims were 27 or 28.

Some of those sickened lived or socialized in West Hollywood and North Hollywood, officials said.

The county will provide free vaccinations for patients without health insurance, starting Thursday. Those interested can call 211 or visit the department's website to get a listing of provider clinics.

Invasive meningococcal disease stems from a rare bacterial infection that can spread to the blood, brain or spinal cord and can affect the entire body -- sometimes causing death.

It is spread by close exposure to sneezing or coughing or direct contact with saliva or nose mucus -- though it's less contagious than influenza, the health department said.

Activities associated with risk for the illness include smoking, close contact with an infected person such as kissing or sharing beverages or cigarettes, and living in group settings for prolonged periods.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me...z2xv2JbZto

I wonder how long it will be before the left uses this as another excuse to try to make people stop smoking cigarettes, while promoting the legalization of marijuana.

Wait, are you arguing that people shouldn't stop smoking?

Yeah. The stats MTV and affiliates come up with are bogus... Truth.org is bogus, they just go find the person that it affected the most and use them to their own advantage. If people feel the need to biitch about cigarettes then they need to do the same for alcohol and especially marijuana.

(04-10-2014 02:39 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 03:47 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:41 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  But whatever. The argument has run it's course.


TLDR thread
Sex is risky. Protection and medication can reduce risks to near zero. Some people are willing to take the risk and that is their prerogative. Paul condemns those people. I do not. Neither of us wishes to take the risk ourselves. Paul doesn't have risk involved sex, all sex carries risk, therefore Paul is a virgin.

/endthread

Medication? The ONLY risk free sex for a hetero is a condom. Since the anus isn't a self lubricating organ like the vulva, friction could tear a hole in the condom easily. Plus, without the risk of pregnancy on hand, two men wouldn't see the need for condoms, especially if they are in a relationship.

I don't think you know what 'risk free' means if you think that heterosexual sex using a condom is risk free.

All sex carries a risk of transmitting diseases, certain types more than others, but you should leave the medical statements to those who have a basic understanding of physiology and immunology.

Well unless it busts or you transfuse your blood together, what's the risk? Does the bold section refer to you?

(04-10-2014 12:15 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 02:39 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 03:47 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(04-08-2014 04:41 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  But whatever. The argument has run it's course.


TLDR thread
Sex is risky. Protection and medication can reduce risks to near zero. Some people are willing to take the risk and that is their prerogative. Paul condemns those people. I do not. Neither of us wishes to take the risk ourselves. Paul doesn't have risk involved sex, all sex carries risk, therefore Paul is a virgin.

/endthread

Medication? The ONLY risk free sex for a hetero is a condom. Since the anus isn't a self lubricating organ like the vulva, friction could tear a hole in the condom easily. Plus, without the risk of pregnancy on hand, two men wouldn't see the need for condoms, especially if they are in a relationship.

I don't think you know what 'risk free' means if you think that heterosexual sex using a condom is risk free.

All sex carries a risk of transmitting diseases, certain types more than others, but you should leave the medical statements to those who have a basic understanding of physiology and immunology.

We're talking to doorknobs here.

And you can't get through because we're child-proof.