So I had a recent conversation with a UT fan who claimed one of his best friends is the father of a top 100 recruit for 2015 who said Pastner gave the wrong perception when using flashcards. He said it came off as the team having a basketball IQ issue with retaining certain plays/schemes.

I got in a heated argument with this guy who seemed to agree with his friend. I always thought Pastner primarily used the cards mostly on the road as a means to counter road crowd noise. Is this not true? Haven't others done this? I wanted to bash this guy at one point but he hadn't yet paid for the round of drinks.

Why are cards different than sending other indications of what a coach wants?

Explain to your UT friend that when more than 100 people show up to basketball game, the arena tends to get loud and it's just a quick way of relaying the defense to the team who may not hear the call.

(04-03-2014 09:12 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Why are cards different than sending other indications of what a coach wants?

Exactly! The point I tried to make. However, hr claimed Pastner has been the lone one on this level to consistently do it, and it just looks like he needs to do it because the players don't retain well.

He uses it mainly for defensive purposes and when his team is on the opposite side of the tigers bench. Its no big deal

(04-03-2014 09:09 PM)Tigerbluesky Wrote:  So I had a recent conversation with a UT fan who claimed one of his best friends is the father of a top 100 recruit for 2015 who said Pastner gave the wrong perception when using flashcards. He said it came off as the team having a basketball IQ issue with retaining certain plays/schemes.

I got in a heated argument with this guy who seemed to agree with his friend. I always thought Pastner primarily used the cards mostly on the road as a means to counter road crowd noise. Is this not true? Haven't others done this? I wanted to bash this guy at one point but he hadn't yet paid for the round of drinks.

Unnamed friend claims unnamed best friend who is the unnamed father of an unnamed somewhere in the top 100 athlete. Hmmmmm!

(04-03-2014 09:31 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(04-03-2014 09:09 PM)Tigerbluesky Wrote:  So I had a recent conversation with a UT fan who claimed one of his best friends is the father of a top 100 recruit for 2015 who said Pastner gave the wrong perception when using flashcards. He said it came off as the team having a basketball IQ issue with retaining certain plays/schemes.

I got in a heated argument with this guy who seemed to agree with his friend. I always thought Pastner primarily used the cards mostly on the road as a means to counter road crowd noise. Is this not true? Haven't others done this? I wanted to bash this guy at one point but he hadn't yet paid for the round of drinks.

Unnamed friend claims unnamed best friend who is the unnamed father of an unnamed somewhere in the top 100 athlete. Hmmmmm!

Dude, really? He said who the kid was but I'd never name him here on a message board. Only posted it to show how some feel on the outside about the cards.

(04-03-2014 09:09 PM)Tigerbluesky Wrote:  So I had a recent conversation with a UT fan who claimed one of his best friends is the father of a top 100 recruit for 2015 who said Pastner gave the wrong perception when using flashcards. He said it came off as the team having a basketball IQ issue with retaining certain plays/schemes.

I got in a heated argument with this guy who seemed to agree with his friend. I always thought Pastner primarily used the cards mostly on the road as a means to counter road crowd noise. Is this not true? Haven't others done this? I wanted to bash this guy at one point but he hadn't yet paid for the round of drinks.

If you've befriended someone from utk, you've pretty much gone above and beyond in terms of charity. Trying to explain basketball might just make him confused and angry and possibly violent. Just be happy you've paid ahead.

(04-03-2014 09:12 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Why are cards different than sending other indications of what a coach wants?

They look stupid?

Could we get him to use flashcards all the time instead of actually talking ?

(04-03-2014 10:11 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Could we get him to use flashcards all the time instead of actually talking ?

You talking about the mic'd up sessions?

I'd be really surprised if a utk student wasn't familiar with flash cards.....especially if they're juniors or seniors....

if our defense was consistently worth more than a dung beetle breeding source it wouldn't be an issue

Fingers have worked just fine for the past 80 years or so. Not sure that big time college basketball needs this innovation.

So it is ok for football, but not basketball?

No more gimmicks.

Must be the same UT fan that hates the whole state of Marquette.

(04-03-2014 09:09 PM)Tigerbluesky Wrote:  So I had a recent conversation with a UT fan who claimed one of his best friends is the father of a top 100 recruit for 2015 who said Pastner gave the wrong perception when using flashcards. He said it came off as the team having a basketball IQ issue with retaining certain plays/schemes.

I got in a heated argument with this guy who seemed to agree with his friend. I always thought Pastner primarily used the cards mostly on the road as a means to counter road crowd noise. Is this not true? Haven't others done this? I wanted to bash this guy at one point but he hadn't yet paid for the round of drinks.

Just ask your friend if he understands what the word "retain" means... If I hold up 1 finger to indicate a specific play and JP holds up a sign with the number 1 on it to indicate a specific play and both of our teams run the play that was called, then both of our teams have "retained" the information necessary to run the play... The method of communication is simply different. It has nothing to do with being able to "retain" information though or players being intelligent or teachable.

(04-04-2014 06:10 AM)fsquid Wrote:  So it is ok for football, but not basketball?

Pretty decent difference:

1) Proximity to players
2) Number of players on field vs. on court
3) number of different plays
4) detail of description of said play
5) frequency in which plays/set are changed.

(04-04-2014 07:14 AM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  Must be the same UT fan that hates the whole state of Marquette.

Ha! Nice