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Cooke: "I know I'm going to get better here." A not so subtle jab at Brady's program.
06-08-2014 07:41 AM
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Without doing any research except for what I read in the article, I wonder if Cooke has ever gone through a losing season playing competitive basketball prior to last year. If you are used to winning all the time but then your team begins to pile up losses then it is easier to find reasons to leave and reasons not to like the staff.

I have no hard feelings towards the guy. Just as Hart said, I think the extra year off will do Cooke a lot of good. He certainly has the potential to go pro overseas.
06-08-2014 07:59 AM
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The only person I would really say didn't reach their pro potential is Bowles. AJ is a guy that we could hope would make the NBA, but it's not like anyone expected him to be Eric Maynor or Jose Juan Barea, at least I didn't. He's getting his shot in the D league and that's great and what I would have expected, I hope he gets to make the jump. I'm sure it would have been easier if he had played his whole time at JMU the way he did for the championship run, but he's getting his shot.

I don't really think Cooke's chances of playing pro are any better at Dayton than at JMU. Maybe he thinks they are, but I agree with Rock House it's probably a lot of not being used to losing. He could have been a big part of helping JMU start winning more like he and the other freshmen were in the championship season.
06-08-2014 08:35 AM
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I don't see his comments as taking a jab at Brady. I just see him as a selfish person. It is really all about him not the team. HE went to a better program so HE could get better. No where in the article does he talk about him making Dayton a better team. It is all about what he perceives Dayton is going to do for him. By all accounts, his parents are a pain in the rear too.

I honestly hope the guy rides the pines and doesn't see the floor at Dayton. To me he is a traitor. He was given all the opportunity in the world at JMU and turned his back on his teammates, coaches and us fans. I have no reason to care about his basketball career any longer.
06-08-2014 09:37 AM
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(06-08-2014 09:37 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  I don't see his comments as taking a jab at Brady. I just see him as a selfish person. It is really all about him not the team. HE went to a better program so HE could get better. No where in the article does he talk about him making Dayton a better team. It is all about what he perceives Dayton is going to do for him. By all accounts, his parents are a pain in the rear too.

I honestly hope the guy rides the pines and doesn't see the floor at Dayton. To me he is a traitor. He was given all the opportunity in the world at JMU and turned his back on his teammates, coaches and us fans. I have no reason to care about his basketball career any longer.

The only situation where I would not wish him well ( stat and win wise ) is if they played JMU. I would hope we blow them out and he has the worst game ever.

I wish him well because he will forever be know as a JMU transfer , and that will reflect on Brady's recruiting effort and might swing some recruits. He does recruit out of Ohio.
06-08-2014 10:21 AM
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I get that in recruiting for basketball each party isn't always one another's first choice but it sounds to me like Cooke despite what he said in the media (post game NCAA loss, caa tv interview) never really bought in. He and the people around him always aspired to play in the a-10 where he could better showcase his talents for the next level (they were probably more sensitive to the conference defections and our status as well). Then when losing happened and Cooke didn't want to be a leader or part of the solution rather than the problem he pointed fingers and jumped ship. It's easy to throw stones at a losing program but I think Jmu and Cooke will be better off without one another. The offense will flow better as well because I think you had a dynamic of friends and sophomores where they probably sensed Cooke wasn't that excited to be here and wanted to placate him a little rather than challenging his line of thinking. The high road and a sincere appreciation for the opportunity the first time around for playing time the ball and a chance to develop would have been nice to see and hear. I hope he gets what he's looking for.


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I would be shocked if Archie Miller is still the coach when Charles becomes eligible.
06-09-2014 01:17 PM
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(06-09-2014 01:17 PM)Phlegmish Wrote:  I would be shocked if Archie Miller is still the coach when Charles becomes eligible.

Archie Miller just signed a crazy long extension though...then again Steve Alford signed a 10 year deal with New Mexico and honored 0% of it.
06-09-2014 01:50 PM
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(06-08-2014 02:29 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  I get that in recruiting for basketball each party isn't always one another's first choice but it sounds to me like Cooke despite what he said in the media (post game NCAA loss, caa tv interview) never really bought in. He and the people around him always aspired to play in the a-10 where he could better showcase his talents for the next level (they were probably more sensitive to the conference defections and our status as well). Then when losing happened and Cooke didn't want to be a leader or part of the solution rather than the problem he pointed fingers and jumped ship. It's easy to throw stones at a losing program but I think Jmu and Cooke will be better off without one another. The offense will flow better as well because I think you had a dynamic of friends and sophomores where they probably sensed Cooke wasn't that excited to be here and wanted to placate him a little rather than challenging his line of thinking. The high road and a sincere appreciation for the opportunity the first time around for playing time the ball and a chance to develop would have been nice to see and hear. I hope he gets what he's looking for.


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I must agree, Cooke did not have much pride in being a JMU Duke and won't have much pride in being a Dayton Flyer either. You can't get mad at a guy who looks out for himself, but one must question why you would leave a program where you are the go-to guy to restart your college experience all over again............ Beats the hell out of me
06-10-2014 09:47 AM
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(06-10-2014 09:47 AM)EastCoastCoach Wrote:  
(06-08-2014 02:29 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  I get that in recruiting for basketball each party isn't always one another's first choice but it sounds to me like Cooke despite what he said in the media (post game NCAA loss, caa tv interview) never really bought in. He and the people around him always aspired to play in the a-10 where he could better showcase his talents for the next level (they were probably more sensitive to the conference defections and our status as well). Then when losing happened and Cooke didn't want to be a leader or part of the solution rather than the problem he pointed fingers and jumped ship. It's easy to throw stones at a losing program but I think Jmu and Cooke will be better off without one another. The offense will flow better as well because I think you had a dynamic of friends and sophomores where they probably sensed Cooke wasn't that excited to be here and wanted to placate him a little rather than challenging his line of thinking. The high road and a sincere appreciation for the opportunity the first time around for playing time the ball and a chance to develop would have been nice to see and hear. I hope he gets what he's looking for.


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I must agree, Cooke did not have much pride in being a JMU Duke and won't have much pride in being a Dayton Flyer either. You can't get mad at a guy who looks out for himself, but one must question why you would leave a program where you are the go-to guy to restart your college experience all over again............ Beats the hell out of me

One of these years I will share the reasons with all of you.
06-10-2014 01:09 PM
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Cooke declares for the NBA Draft- hasn't hired an agent so he can re-enroll by May 25th I believe.
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Might as well. They relaxed the rules so any half decent player should evaluate. I doubt he gets an NBa combine invite but can't blame a talented player for spending some of the offseason competing against the best in the country.
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Would love to mock this but as A10 Defensive 1st teamer and regular 1st teamer A10 seems reasonable to test the waters. EVERYONE is testing the waters this year, because there is no negative to do it. These rules will change because its too crazy to have hundreds of people declare. Not fair to the schools and planning purposes. I like it for the kids who get as much info as possible but I just know the NCAA schools hate it and wont let this continue.
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Goodman tweeted that Charles Cooke would work out for Danny Ainge in Boston. Seems like Quincy Ford of NE already has done that or is slated to do.
05-09-2016 01:12 PM
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(05-09-2016 01:12 PM)Dukes84 Wrote:  Goodman tweeted that Charles Cooke would work out for Danny Ainge in Boston. Seems like Quincy Ford of NE already has done that or is slated to do.

Cooke worked out for Boston on Saturday. Supposedly they are bringing in a lot of guys for workouts- the Celtics have a lot of draft picks- not just 1st rounders but multiple 2nd round picks as well. You may recall that Ainge scouted Northeastern during the season- David Walker at the time. My guess is that they would eye Cooke for one of their 2nd round picks. I think Cooke is just using the rules to get exposure and I would hope he would go back to Dayton if he isn't assured of being the in the 1st round. They should be the favorite in the A-10 next year and he may have a shot at the Conference Player of the Year award as well.
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Cbs has him ranked right out of top 100 available prospects at 106, ahead of some very talented guys.

I think if he has a great workout for the right teams, he could stay in the draft.
05-10-2016 07:13 AM
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Speaking of Cooke, he's off to a rough start, only averaging 25 points a game after the first two games.
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Because of how many fouls JMU has had the first couple of games ( close to 30 each game) I've started being more keenly aware of fouls. I believe they are an indicator of how good a player is. Look at Cooke's lines- he stuffs the stat sheet and barely fouls. That shows that he is elite when he's on the court and always in control on offense and defense. I bet if you look at Curry's stats you will find the same. IMO two of the more damning stats for JMU 2 games in this year- turnovers on offense and fouls on defense. They've had years where they couldn't shoot (Cooke and Curry's sophomore season) but turning the ball over and fouling so much shows that they don't have the horses. It's a shame Cooke couldn't stay because he would have saved Brady's job. He was that good of a player but he made the right move and will end up being a first team A-10 guy maybe even a POY when it's all said and done.

BTW- I've looked for Nation at that NAIA school- they have played a few games already and no sign of him. I don't think that ever panned out for him. Such a shame but it's on him.
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(11-16-2016 07:19 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Because of how many fouls JMU has had the first couple of games ( close to 30 each game) I've started being more keenly aware of fouls. I believe they are an indicator of how good a player is. Look at Cooke's lines- he stuffs the stat sheet and barely fouls. That shows that he is elite when he's on the court and always in control on offense and defense. I bet if you look at Curry's stats you will find the same. IMO two of the more damning stats for JMU 2 games in this year- turnovers on offense and fouls on defense. They've had years where they couldn't shoot (Cooke and Curry's sophomore season) but turning the ball over and fouling so much shows that they don't have the horses. It's a shame Cooke couldn't stay because he would have saved Brady's job. He was that good of a player but he made the right move and will end up being a first team A-10 guy maybe even a POY when it's all said and done.

BTW- I've looked for Nation at that NAIA school- they have played a few games already and no sign of him. I don't think that ever panned out for him. Such a shame but it's on him.

Where did he end up?
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(11-17-2016 12:56 PM)CISDuke2014 Wrote:  
(11-16-2016 07:19 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Because of how many fouls JMU has had the first couple of games ( close to 30 each game) I've started being more keenly aware of fouls. I believe they are an indicator of how good a player is. Look at Cooke's lines- he stuffs the stat sheet and barely fouls. That shows that he is elite when he's on the court and always in control on offense and defense. I bet if you look at Curry's stats you will find the same. IMO two of the more damning stats for JMU 2 games in this year- turnovers on offense and fouls on defense. They've had years where they couldn't shoot (Cooke and Curry's sophomore season) but turning the ball over and fouling so much shows that they don't have the horses. It's a shame Cooke couldn't stay because he would have saved Brady's job. He was that good of a player but he made the right move and will end up being a first team A-10 guy maybe even a POY when it's all said and done.

BTW- I've looked for Nation at that NAIA school- they have played a few games already and no sign of him. I don't think that ever panned out for him. Such a shame but it's on him.

Where did he end up?

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