More proof of the anger and hate that the Dems use.....


A Michigan mother of five says that the crushing new costs associated with Obamacare have imperiled her family’s financial future and will burden the household with thousands of dollars in unexpected expenses.

The uptick in costs that Shannon Wendt and her family will face in the coming years under President Barack Obama’s Affordable Care Act will strain the family’s finances and force both Shannon and her husband to work harder to bridge the fiscal gap.

Wendt initially decided to discuss her plight in an ad produced by the advocacy group Americans for Prosperity, which has chronicled the negative impact of Obamacare on American families across the nation.

Wendt told the Washington Free Beacon that since she first spoke about her rising healthcare costs supporters of Obama’s signature law have deluged her with “hate mail,” dubbing her a “lying *****” and writing that “my children should be taken away.”

“It is going to be a big price increase so it’s definitely something that we have to consider and figure out,” Wendt said in an interview.

“We have always been really entrepreneurial and do it yourselfers … [so] that’s where we run into these problems with the increase because we don’t say, ‘Oh, who’s going to pay for this for us.’ We said, ‘We’re going to have to work a little harder, work a little smarter, and figure something out so our income can go up,’” she said.

The burden of Obamacare has sparked worry and anxiety in the Wendt household.

“I naively believed the president that this was going to be something that saves money for me and that’s what it looked like at first,” she explained. “We thought we’d qualify for a subsidy and get a plan that was pretty similar and had a little bit better coverage and that we’d be paying the same price. And then, lo and behold, we actually don’t qualify for a subsidy at all, and the premium is astronomical.”

The Wendts were paying $221 a month to cover their family of seven. They are now paying a monthly premium of $381 under a temporary stop-gap plan that will be canceled next year, when the family is forced by law to register for an Obamacare plan.

Under this new plan, the family will be forced to pay around $24,000 a year, nearly double the cost of the $12,000 they pay under their current plan, Wendt said.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/mother-of-f...al-future/

I've been scanning comments on local news Obamacare Q&A forums... nearly every comment is asking how they can work around paying for it.

And yet again, the story pretty much falls apart when you actually look at it objectively.

Will they ever stop trying?

Quote:Based on the Kaiser Family Foundation and HealthCare.gov results, a Michigan family of seven with the same profile could get a silver plan with the same coinsurance as the Wendt’s current plan, a monthly premium that would be roughly the same (somewhat less for the HMO and somewhat more for the PPO) and far less than the $10,000 annual deductible. Plus, such a family would be eligible for subsidies to reduce out-of-pocket expenses to around $3,000 — which could represent a significant savings since Shannon Wendt told MLive.com, a Michigan news website, that her family paid $10,000 in out-of-pocket expenses last year.

Of course, the silver plan also provides more benefits because it provides “essential benefits” and meets other requirements that Wendt’s old and current plan do not meet.

Misleading Anti-Obamacare Ad in Michigan

(04-03-2014 10:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And yet again, the story pretty much falls apart when you actually look at it objectively.

Will they ever stop trying?

http://www.wset.com/category/279315/affo...are-act-qa

Quote:anon2699: Mom is on social security and has no other income but the social security. She doesn't have insurance at this time does she have to sign up and how much would the cost be? She was born June 17, 1950.


anon3781: I don't know if my question came in: I am 59 years old and want to stop working. My husbands plan will not cover family plan. If I decide to stay at home ,do I have to carry insurance? If I do not what is the cost of fine??


freelady0005: I haave been unemployed for 3 yrs. I dont have a job now. What do i do to get insurance.. I have no imcome coming in so not able to pay for it

drakesbranchjerry: my wife & I are both 61 she just filed for ss which is to start in june I just lost my job 2 weeks ago cobra is $1000 a month & we have no income we are in good health I see a doctor every 6 months now what


MEVANS2725: WHY DID MY RATE INCREASE FROM 180.00 PER MONTH TO 600.00 PER MONTH.....


BKM06: seems like my only option is to get a divorce and the. I will be eligable for medicaid



anon2694: I am 38 years old and I don't have a job what can I do or what must I do to get insurance


anon5019: If Obama can change "the law" and deadlines without Congress, does that make him a King?

Work harder Comrade!

(04-03-2014 09:41 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  I've been scanning comments on local news Obamacare Q&A forums... nearly every comment is asking how they can work around paying for it.

It's easy. They don't have to carry insurance. The penalty is significantly less.

Waiting onEagles response to redwingtom.....

(04-03-2014 10:59 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-03-2014 09:41 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  I've been scanning comments on local news Obamacare Q&A forums... nearly every comment is asking how they can work around paying for it.

It's easy. They don't have to carry insurance. The penalty is significantly less.

Only the first year, and it's actually a tax not a penalty (a synonym of fine).

Evidently some in this thread support this....

Wendt told the Washington Free Beacon that since she first spoke about her rising healthcare costs supporters of Obama’s signature law have deluged her with “hate mail,” dubbing her a “lying *****” and writing that “my children should be taken away.”

Waiting on Eagle's response to redwingtom.....

I think somewhere Harry Reid is confused about whether he thinks this woman is lying or not.

They're white, who gives a shiit... Next please.

*Hi, I'm Kim Radersma and I endorse this hateful comment.

(04-03-2014 12:16 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Evidently some in this thread support this....

Wendt told the Washington Free Beacon that since she first spoke about her rising healthcare costs supporters of Obama’s signature law have deluged her with “hate mail,” dubbing her a “lying *****” and writing that “my children should be taken away.”

Evidently someone likes to assume...

But I'll take away any doubt for you.

Anyone who sends those types of messages to her is a disgusting vile POS. Those types of actions have no place in rational discourse on this topic.

Now, while I don't buy her arguments, I can respect that this is not an easy situation for her and is likely quite troublesome. That being said, it's pretty clear that she could save herself some money here. And I feel sorry for her as she's likely been misled by Republicans and her chosen media.

(04-03-2014 12:56 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2014 12:16 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Evidently some in this thread support this....

Wendt told the Washington Free Beacon that since she first spoke about her rising healthcare costs supporters of Obama’s signature law have deluged her with “hate mail,” dubbing her a “lying *****” and writing that “my children should be taken away.”

Evidently someone likes to assume...

But I'll take away any doubt for you.

Anyone who sends those types of messages to her is a disgusting vile POS. Those types of actions have no place in rational discourse on this topic.

Now, while I don't buy her arguments, I can respect that this is not an easy situation for her and is likely quite troublesome. That being said, it's pretty clear that she could save herself some money here. And I feel sorry for her as she's likely been misled by Republicans and her chosen media.

Hateful white privileged bastard, what gives YOU the right?

(04-03-2014 12:56 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2014 12:16 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Evidently some in this thread support this....

Wendt told the Washington Free Beacon that since she first spoke about her rising healthcare costs supporters of Obama’s signature law have deluged her with “hate mail,” dubbing her a “lying *****” and writing that “my children should be taken away.”

Evidently someone likes to assume...

But I'll take away any doubt for you.

Anyone who sends those types of messages to her is a disgusting vile POS. Those types of actions have no place in rational discourse on this topic.

Now, while I don't buy her arguments, I can respect that this is not an easy situation for her and is likely quite troublesome. That being said, it's pretty clear that she could save herself some money here. And I feel sorry for her as she's likely been misled by Republicans and her chosen media.

That's ripe "mislead by Repub". Nota single Repub. voted for it. and every democrat lied about it. Commietom, you need a new schtick. You are a damn lying clown.

(04-03-2014 10:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And yet again, the story pretty much falls apart when you actually look at it objectively.

Will they ever stop trying?

Quote:Based on the Kaiser Family Foundation and HealthCare.gov results, a Michigan family of seven with the same profile could get a silver plan with the same coinsurance as the Wendt’s current plan, a monthly premium that would be roughly the same (somewhat less for the HMO and somewhat more for the PPO) and far less than the $10,000 annual deductible. Plus, such a family would be eligible for subsidies to reduce out-of-pocket expenses to around $3,000 — which could represent a significant savings since Shannon Wendt told MLive.com, a Michigan news website, that her family paid $10,000 in out-of-pocket expenses last year.

Of course, the silver plan also provides more benefits because it provides “essential benefits” and meets other requirements that Wendt’s old and current plan do not meet.

Misleading Anti-Obamacare Ad in Michigan

If you like your Doctor you can keep them, or IF you like your insurance you can keep it, Period.

(04-03-2014 01:56 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-03-2014 12:56 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2014 12:16 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Evidently some in this thread support this....

Wendt told the Washington Free Beacon that since she first spoke about her rising healthcare costs supporters of Obama’s signature law have deluged her with “hate mail,” dubbing her a “lying *****” and writing that “my children should be taken away.”

Evidently someone likes to assume...

But I'll take away any doubt for you.

Anyone who sends those types of messages to her is a disgusting vile POS. Those types of actions have no place in rational discourse on this topic.

Now, while I don't buy her arguments, I can respect that this is not an easy situation for her and is likely quite troublesome. That being said, it's pretty clear that she could save herself some money here. And I feel sorry for her as she's likely been misled by Republicans and her chosen media.

That's ripe "mislead by Repub". Nota single Repub. voted for it. and every democrat lied about it. Commietom, you need a new schtick. You are a damn lying clown.

Old man...time to hang it up. You just can't keep up.

She's being misled by Republicans who constantly insist that Obamacare has failed when it has just barely started. Misled by the Koch's and their minions who constantly tell her that she's going to pay more.

And I'm sorry, but the facts in this case...as well as in the Boonstra case...show that they would actually save money if they followed the provisions set out by the ACA.

This has NOTHING to do with who voted for the plan. Geez.

(04-03-2014 02:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2014 01:56 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(04-03-2014 12:56 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-03-2014 12:16 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Evidently some in this thread support this....

Wendt told the Washington Free Beacon that since she first spoke about her rising healthcare costs supporters of Obama’s signature law have deluged her with “hate mail,” dubbing her a “lying *****” and writing that “my children should be taken away.”

Evidently someone likes to assume...

But I'll take away any doubt for you.

Anyone who sends those types of messages to her is a disgusting vile POS. Those types of actions have no place in rational discourse on this topic.

Now, while I don't buy her arguments, I can respect that this is not an easy situation for her and is likely quite troublesome. That being said, it's pretty clear that she could save herself some money here. And I feel sorry for her as she's likely been misled by Republicans and her chosen media.

That's ripe "mislead by Repub". Nota single Repub. voted for it. and every democrat lied about it. Commietom, you need a new schtick. You are a damn lying clown.

Old man...time to hang it up. You just can't keep up.

She's being misled by Republicans who constantly insist that Obamacare has failed when it has just barely started. Misled by the Koch's and their minions who constantly tell her that she's going to pay more.

And I'm sorry, but the facts in this case...as well as in the Boonstra case...show that they would actually save money if they followed the provisions set out by the ACA.

This has NOTHING to do with who voted for the plan. Geez.

Right. By going on the dole. She clearly says exactly that, she isn't taking a hand out.

Quote:“We have always been really entrepreneurial and do it yourselfers … [so] that’s where we run into these problems with the increase because we don’t say, ‘Oh, who’s going to pay for this for us.’ We said, ‘We’re going to have to work a little harder, work a little smarter, and figure something out so our income can go up,’” she said.

So, for that, and for trying to instill that in her children she is threatened, called a liar, and by our own leftists, implied she's a buffoon that is easily lead by the nose like the left is.

So, yea, she is going to pay more. Period. Cause she refuses to take a handout from her neighbors kids mouths to put in her own. Nothing misleading about that.

I know that's a completely foreign concept to you utopian leftists, but it's not for this Family. We'd all be far better off with more people like her and far fewer who will lie straight to your face.

"Mislead by Republicans".

Now THAT'S a good one.

(04-03-2014 12:30 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Waiting on Eagle's response to redwingtom.....

Maybe Eagle will respond when Tom responds to my dismantling of his agenda in the woodstove thread.

(04-03-2014 02:46 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(04-03-2014 12:30 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Waiting on Eagle's response to redwingtom.....

Maybe Eagle will respond when Tom responds to my dismantling of his agenda in the woodstove thread.

JD knew everything from good credit to exactly what features and attitudes a woman needed in order to last a lifetime with you, when he was 15. He probably already knew that you were going to write "Maybe Eagle will respond when Tom responds to my dismantling of his agenda in the woodstove thread." in response to him, when he was 15, too.