Ignoring grand visions of Big 12 invites for now, I don't suppose Frazier mentioned what he thought the capacity needed to be to bring in P5 schools to Huskie Stadium...

(04-02-2014 01:36 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Ignoring grand visions of Big 12 invites for now, I don't suppose Frazier mentioned what he thought the capacity needed to be to bring in P5 schools to Huskie Stadium...

you would think that would be a good follow up question...

If you're going to the trouble you should probably shoot for 40K. That definitely has more of a ring to it than say 35. Yes I know we rarely fill our 24K stadium now but just saying that if you're going to expand you might as well do it to a point that makes an impact.

(04-02-2014 01:44 PM)NIU1981 Wrote:  If you're going to the trouble you should probably shoot for 40K. That definitely has more of a ring to it than say 35. Yes I know we rarely fill our 24K stadium now but just saying that if you're going to expand you might as well do it to a point that makes an impact.

40k + 2k or so for a skybox would bring us inline with the size of TCU and Utah when they jumped to a P5 conference.

I'm thinking 30+ would be the minimum to have a good shot of getting AQ teams here.

Could offer up 10K to them and still have 2/3rds of the crowd be NIU fans.

(04-02-2014 10:55 AM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 09:16 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  Let's put Wisconsin aside. When Toledo brings in big-name teams, is the stadium filled with opposition fans?

I believe last year or the one before, Bama played at Duke. Bama fans bought like 10,000 Duke season tickets. After that game Duke now has 10,000 Bama owned seats that go unfilled. Have to some way put in a safeguard against this.

sell general admission tickets day of game. If the 10k go unused, you basically oversell them. Like airlines do for seats. It would be a huge winner on the money side.

1. I think Frazier is thinking about regional bcs teams (Iowa St, Nebraska, Minnesota, NU, U of I, Missouri, Kentucky, etc)...where they would travel since the distance is short and require tickets
2. I think his point about fear of losing is correct, but we should also be concerned about our fear of losing with this new playoff system and having a shot every year at it
3. Facilities wise, Concessions/bathrooms need to be upgraded to accommodate that many people.
4. To free up more seats, you need to move the studen section to the south endzone and get the band the hell out of the seats. Then you would need to add another videoboard at the north end of the stadium(or move the one from the southend to the north, but not even sure how that is possible with that damn building so close to the field..

Iowa St holds 55k
Minnesota holds 50k
Kansas holds 50k
Kansas St holds 50k

Frazier was at Wisc.. I think he know how to run a program, and what you need to have in order to get there(money facilities, game day, etc)... He has experience..

(04-02-2014 03:27 PM)cartershaw Wrote:  1. I think Frazier is thinking about regional bcs teams (Iowa St, Nebraska, Minnesota, NU, U of I, Missouri, Kentucky, etc)...where they would travel since the distance is short and require tickets
2. I think his point about fear of losing is correct, but we should also be concerned about our fear of losing with this new playoff system and having a shot every year at it
3. Facilities wise, Concessions/bathrooms need to be upgraded to accommodate that many people.
4. To free up more seats, you need to move the studen section to the south endzone and get the band the hell out of the seats. Then you would need to add another videoboard at the north end of the stadium(or move the one from the southend to the north, but not even sure how that is possible with that damn building so close to the field..

Really?? Move the students to the endzone so that opposing teams fans can relish seats right at midfield!? That's just asking more and more students to discontinue their athletic fees if opposing teams fans are going to get the nod over students of the university.

No universities allocate tickets for opposing teams in their best seats. The idea is to expand the bleachers into the endzones for the opposing teams fans, NOT ours.

(04-02-2014 04:06 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 03:27 PM)cartershaw Wrote:  1. I think Frazier is thinking about regional bcs teams (Iowa St, Nebraska, Minnesota, NU, U of I, Missouri, Kentucky, etc)...where they would travel since the distance is short and require tickets
2. I think his point about fear of losing is correct, but we should also be concerned about our fear of losing with this new playoff system and having a shot every year at it
3. Facilities wise, Concessions/bathrooms need to be upgraded to accommodate that many people.
4. To free up more seats, you need to move the studen section to the south endzone and get the band the hell out of the seats. Then you would need to add another videoboard at the north end of the stadium(or move the one from the southend to the north, but not even sure how that is possible with that damn building so close to the field..

Really?? Move the students to the endzone so that opposing teams fans can relish seats right at midfield!? That's just asking more and more students to discontinue their athletic fees if opposing teams fans are going to get the nod over students of the university.

No universities allocate tickets for opposing teams in their best seats. The idea is to expand the bleachers into the endzones for the opposing teams fans, NOT ours.

CMU students are located in the end zone

(04-02-2014 01:44 PM)NIU1981 Wrote:  If you're going to the trouble you should probably shoot for 40K. That definitely has more of a ring to it than say 35. Yes I know we rarely fill our 24K stadium now but just saying that if you're going to expand you might as well do it to a point that makes an impact.

so you build a 40,000 seat stadium so you can bring in 1 BCS team, then the remainder you have a 20,000 or so home attd. For me nothing is better then to see a full HS at 22,000 plus then 20,000 empty seats

(04-02-2014 03:31 PM)cartershaw Wrote:  Frazier was at Wisc.. I think he know how to run a program, and what you need to have in order to get there(money facilities, game day, etc)... He has experience..

No doubt he knows what we need...the question is if he can figure out how to get enough money out of our pockets, to do the plan, without scaring too many people away compared to the low cost that we were conditioned for with the last group.

(04-02-2014 04:17 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 01:44 PM)NIU1981 Wrote:  If you're going to the trouble you should probably shoot for 40K. That definitely has more of a ring to it than say 35. Yes I know we rarely fill our 24K stadium now but just saying that if you're going to expand you might as well do it to a point that makes an impact.

so you build a 40,000 seat stadium so you can bring in 1 BCS team, then the remainder you have a 20,000 or so home attd. For me nothing is better then to see a full HS at 22,000 plus then 20,000 empty seats

No you build a 40k seat stadium so you can join a P5 league.

You build a 30k seat stadium so you can bring in 1 BCS team per year to help drive season ticket sales and grow your fan base.

(04-02-2014 04:06 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 03:27 PM)cartershaw Wrote:  1. I think Frazier is thinking about regional bcs teams (Iowa St, Nebraska, Minnesota, NU, U of I, Missouri, Kentucky, etc)...where they would travel since the distance is short and require tickets
2. I think his point about fear of losing is correct, but we should also be concerned about our fear of losing with this new playoff system and having a shot every year at it
3. Facilities wise, Concessions/bathrooms need to be upgraded to accommodate that many people.
4. To free up more seats, you need to move the studen section to the south endzone and get the band the hell out of the seats. Then you would need to add another videoboard at the north end of the stadium(or move the one from the southend to the north, but not even sure how that is possible with that damn building so close to the field..

Really?? Move the students to the endzone so that opposing teams fans can relish seats right at midfield!? That's just asking more and more students to discontinue their athletic fees if opposing teams fans are going to get the nod over students of the university.

No universities allocate tickets for opposing teams in their best seats. The idea is to expand the bleachers into the endzones for the opposing teams fans, NOT ours.

If we do this extension on the East side what I do see happening is the students moving over to end where the band sits filling out the extension...or the opposite side.

What this would do is let us move our visiting bench back to the East side...which would greatly improve our home field advantage.

I would absolutely not allocate anything but corner seats to the visitors.

(04-02-2014 04:17 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  so you build a 40,000 seat stadium so you can bring in 1 BCS team, then the remainder you have a 20,000 or so home attd. For me nothing is better then to see a full HS at 22,000 plus then 20,000 empty seats

Obviously you're very short sighted

(04-02-2014 03:27 PM)cartershaw Wrote:  1. I think Frazier is thinking about regional bcs teams (Iowa St, Nebraska, Minnesota, NU, U of I, Missouri, Kentucky, etc)...where they would travel since the distance is short and require tickets
2. I think his point about fear of losing is correct, but we should also be concerned about our fear of losing with this new playoff system and having a shot every year at it
3. Facilities wise, Concessions/bathrooms need to be upgraded to accommodate that many people.
4. To free up more seats, you need to move the studen section to the south endzone and get the band the hell out of the seats. Then you would need to add another videoboard at the north end of the stadium(or move the one from the southend to the north, but not even sure how that is possible with that damn building so close to the field..

Even with 10k tickets Nebraska and UofI are not coming to Huskie Stadium.

There is no plan to close the road. With the extension plan if we can get to 40k with a single level then I don't think there is any reason to expand into the road.

(04-02-2014 04:06 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  

(04-02-2014 03:27 PM)cartershaw Wrote:  1. I think Frazier is thinking about regional bcs teams (Iowa St, Nebraska, Minnesota, NU, U of I, Missouri, Kentucky, etc)...where they would travel since the distance is short and require tickets
2. I think his point about fear of losing is correct, but we should also be concerned about our fear of losing with this new playoff system and having a shot every year at it
3. Facilities wise, Concessions/bathrooms need to be upgraded to accommodate that many people.
4. To free up more seats, you need to move the studen section to the south endzone and get the band the hell out of the seats. Then you would need to add another videoboard at the north end of the stadium(or move the one from the southend to the north, but not even sure how that is possible with that damn building so close to the field..

Really?? Move the students to the endzone so that opposing teams fans can relish seats right at midfield!? That's just asking more and more students to discontinue their athletic fees if opposing teams fans are going to get the nod over students of the university.

No universities allocate tickets for opposing teams in their best seats. The idea is to expand the bleachers into the endzones for the opposing teams fans, NOT ours.

No you create another section in the middle like on the west side..benchback and chairbacks for season ticketholders.. That way discounted student tickets aren't taking up the best seats.

Then put the away team on opposite sides of those on each side(so on the east side they would be on the south end and on the west side they would be on the north end). The you have student section in the endzone(like every other college, with the band) so they can get real loud when a team tries to score

Examples
The Connecticut student section is actually a little better than many people would think. Located behind the end zone, this group has their fair share of cheers that they yell throughout the game.

The Cincinnatti student section takes their seats in the end zone and while they are not as loud as a lot of stadiums, they offer something no other stadium does.

Iowa with over 10,000 students, this is one of the larger student sections in the country. Located in the south end zone, these fans will scream constantly throughout the game.

Arizona St with a section of 9,000 seats located in the southeast corner of the stadium, this group is known as a sea of gold.

The Alabama students are very loud throughout the game and the noise is nothing short of deafening toward the end zones, particularly when there is a big play coming up.

When Clemson is playing good, there are few places in the country that can match the deafening noise heard here. The student section is located behind the end zone and as evidenced by the video, they can get extremely loud.

Located behind the end zone, the South Carolina student section is one of the most intimidating in the SEC.

Ohio Stadium is quite an atmosphere and it is still one of the best in the country."Block O" as the group is called is located in the end zone and is constantly heard throughout the game.

U of I has been terrible, i bet you could schedule a 2-1 with them coming here once...Thier coach is from the MAC, their AD is from the MAC, and Frazier is Ex-B1G, i bet he could figure out a way..

(04-02-2014 04:32 PM)cartershaw Wrote:  U of I has been terrible, i bet you could schedule a 2-1 with them coming here once...Thier coach is from the MAC, their AD is from the MAC, and Frazier is Ex-B1G, i bet he could figure out a way..

Well their AD is the Ex Cinci AD who was good with continuing the rivalry with Miami OH every year.