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I'm working on a project for my sports economics class to determine if, all else equal, having an on campus stadium affects win percentage in Division 1 college football. Here's what I need from you guys.

Let me know if:
  • Your team has played at an off campus facility and moved to an on campus facility
  • Your team has played at an on campus facility and moved to an off campus facility
  • Your team has always played at an on campus facility
  • Your team has always played at an off campus facility

***Provide years, so I'll be able to put together statistics for win percentage.

For instance, UAB has played at an off campus facility (Legion Field) since its football program's inception in 1991. They have been competing in Division 1 since 1996.

Lastly, let me know what you think. How much do you think having an on campus/off campus facility affects win percentage?
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RE: Off Campus vs. On Campus Stadium
(04-01-2014 03:55 PM)frenchbeef Wrote:  I'm working on a project for my sports economics class to determine if, all else equal, having an on campus stadium affects win percentage in Division 1 college football. Here's what I need from you guys.

Let me know if:
  • Your team has played at an off campus facility and moved to an on campus facility
  • Your team has played at an on campus facility and moved to an off campus facility
  • Your team has always played at an on campus facility
  • Your team has always played at an off campus facility

***Provide years, so I'll be able to put together statistics for win percentage.

For instance, UAB has played at an off campus facility (Legion Field) since its football program's inception in 1991. They have been competing in Division 1 since 1996.

Lastly, let me know what you think. How much do you think having an on campus/off campus facility affects win percentage?

Just for clarification for your class project, you might would to specify what you mean by Division I. Since the mid-70's, Division I was IA and IAA and then IA became FBS and IAA became FCS. I assume you're referring to IA but just wanted to make sure you get it right on your project.
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RE: Off Campus vs. On Campus Stadium
Marshall played at an off campus stadium (Fairfield Stadium) from 1927-1990.Now, MU plays at Joan C. Edwards stadium which is on-campus (1991-present). Side note: The Joan currently owns the #1 win percentage of any FBS football ahead of Alabama.
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(04-01-2014 04:23 PM)Surbadger Wrote:  Marshall played at an off campus stadium (Fairfield Stadium) from 1927-1990.Now, MU plays at Joan C. Edwards stadium which is on-campus (1991-present). Side note: The Joan currently owns the #1 win percentage of any FBS football ahead of Alabama.

I know a team that's won at both of those places...
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(04-01-2014 04:48 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 04:23 PM)Surbadger Wrote:  Marshall played at an off campus stadium (Fairfield Stadium) from 1927-1990.Now, MU plays at Joan C. Edwards stadium which is on-campus (1991-present). Side note: The Joan currently owns the #1 win percentage of any FBS football ahead of Alabama.

I know a team that's won at both of those places...

...the Campus Crusade for Christ!
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(04-01-2014 04:20 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 03:55 PM)frenchbeef Wrote:  I'm working on a project for my sports economics class to determine if, all else equal, having an on campus stadium affects win percentage in Division 1 college football. Here's what I need from you guys.

Let me know if:
  • Your team has played at an off campus facility and moved to an on campus facility
  • Your team has played at an on campus facility and moved to an off campus facility
  • Your team has always played at an on campus facility
  • Your team has always played at an off campus facility

***Provide years, so I'll be able to put together statistics for win percentage.

For instance, UAB has played at an off campus facility (Legion Field) since its football program's inception in 1991. They have been competing in Division 1 since 1996.

Lastly, let me know what you think. How much do you think having an on campus/off campus facility affects win percentage?

Just for clarification for your class project, you might would to specify what you mean by Division I. Since the mid-70's, Division I was IA and IAA and then IA became FBS and IAA became FCS. I assume you're referring to IA but just wanted to make sure you get it right on your project.

Thank you for pointing this out. You're correct.
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RE: Off Campus vs. On Campus Stadium
(04-01-2014 03:55 PM)frenchbeef Wrote:  I'm working on a project for my sports economics class to determine if, all else equal, having an on campus stadium affects win percentage in Division 1 college football. Here's what I need from you guys.

Let me know if:
  • Your team has played at an off campus facility and moved to an on campus facility
  • Your team has played at an on campus facility and moved to an off campus facility
  • Your team has always played at an on campus facility
  • Your team has always played at an off campus facility

***Provide years, so I'll be able to put together statistics for win percentage.

For instance, UAB has played at an off campus facility (Legion Field) since its football program's inception in 1991. They have been competing in Division 1 since 1996.

Lastly, let me know what you think. How much do you think having an on campus/off campus facility affects win percentage?

It sounds like you're outsourcing your grunt work to the board. You can literally do this all on Wikipedia, except for your last question.
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(04-01-2014 05:30 PM)PGPirate Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 03:55 PM)frenchbeef Wrote:  I'm working on a project for my sports economics class to determine if, all else equal, having an on campus stadium affects win percentage in Division 1 college football. Here's what I need from you guys.

Let me know if:
  • Your team has played at an off campus facility and moved to an on campus facility
  • Your team has played at an on campus facility and moved to an off campus facility
  • Your team has always played at an on campus facility
  • Your team has always played at an off campus facility

***Provide years, so I'll be able to put together statistics for win percentage.

For instance, UAB has played at an off campus facility (Legion Field) since its football program's inception in 1991. They have been competing in Division 1 since 1996.

Lastly, let me know what you think. How much do you think having an on campus/off campus facility affects win percentage?

It sounds like you're outsourcing your grunt work to the board. You can literally do this all on Wikipedia, except for your last question.

I apologize for the misconception that I have not completed any research on my own already. I have listed some of the following sources listed below. So far, my research has concluded that there are 25 schools currently playing in off campus facilities. Since 2000, I have noticed that 12 schools have built new facilities or simply moved (4 of which were located off campus previously). These schools are Akron, UCF, Florida Atlantic, and Minnesota.

The reason why I asked for extended help was to (1) help look further back in time by fans who may have personally witnessed the transition from off-campus to on-campus and (2) simply talk about the issue itself. It's an interesting one to me because UAB fans have been asking for an on-campus stadium for years. Some think that the stadium will lead to more wins but others point to schools such as Akron, Minnesota, and Florida Atlantic that have struggled since making the transition.

http://www.footballgeography.com/list-of...he-campus/
http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/reco...by=Win+Pct
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCA...l_stadiums
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10...2304563144
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Thank you WKUApollo and Surbadger for the assistance so far.
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Do random games at pro stadiums count? North texas used to do that at Texas stadium
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(04-01-2014 07:18 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  Do random games at pro stadiums count? North texas used to do that at Texas stadium

That's a great question. For the purpose of this project I plan on limiting those games for the sake of simplicity. Unless, for instance, North Texas played at Texas Stadium permanently for some amount of time (1 year or more).
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One drawback to the on-campus stadium is the fact that it pretty much commits you to playing football. Unless you're Tulane (who can build an unpainted steel stadium and then just tear it down when football isn't fun anymore), most schools really have to ante up financially to get the stadium built. If you don't play in it, it just turns into a big, embarrassing white elephant, that will sit there and decay long after you've lost the organizational testosterone necessary to field a decent team.

Yes, if you don't build a team to nest in it, your on-campus stadium will sit there mocking you, like a big, inescapable concrete insult comicm reminding you sarcastically of past glory and present shame. There's no escaping the humiliation, other than perhaps alcoholism.
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(04-01-2014 05:30 PM)PGPirate Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 03:55 PM)frenchbeef Wrote:  I'm working on a project for my sports economics class to determine if, all else equal, having an on campus stadium affects win percentage in Division 1 college football. Here's what I need from you guys.

Let me know if:
  • Your team has played at an off campus facility and moved to an on campus facility
  • Your team has played at an on campus facility and moved to an off campus facility
  • Your team has always played at an on campus facility
  • Your team has always played at an off campus facility

***Provide years, so I'll be able to put together statistics for win percentage.

For instance, UAB has played at an off campus facility (Legion Field) since its football program's inception in 1991. They have been competing in Division 1 since 1996.

Lastly, let me know what you think. How much do you think having an on campus/off campus facility affects win percentage?

It sounds like you're outsourcing your grunt work to the board. You can literally do this all on Wikipedia, except for your last question.

Actually, many things can be missing, ECU's wiki page won't tell that the first stadium used by ECU football was off campus, Guy Smith Stadium from 1932-1948. Then moved on campus to College Stadium from 1949-1962.
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(04-01-2014 07:31 PM)frenchbeef Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 07:18 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  Do random games at pro stadiums count? North texas used to do that at Texas stadium

That's a great question. For the purpose of this project I plan on limiting those games for the sake of simplicity. Unless, for instance, North Texas played at Texas Stadium permanently for some amount of time (1 year or more).

Nope...they didn't. ..fouts....now apogee...With a random field in front of Willis library 60 years ago
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(04-01-2014 09:09 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 05:30 PM)PGPirate Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 03:55 PM)frenchbeef Wrote:  I'm working on a project for my sports economics class to determine if, all else equal, having an on campus stadium affects win percentage in Division 1 college football. Here's what I need from you guys.

Let me know if:
  • Your team has played at an off campus facility and moved to an on campus facility
  • Your team has played at an on campus facility and moved to an off campus facility
  • Your team has always played at an on campus facility
  • Your team has always played at an off campus facility

***Provide years, so I'll be able to put together statistics for win percentage.

For instance, UAB has played at an off campus facility (Legion Field) since its football program's inception in 1991. They have been competing in Division 1 since 1996.

Lastly, let me know what you think. How much do you think having an on campus/off campus facility affects win percentage?

It sounds like you're outsourcing your grunt work to the board. You can literally do this all on Wikipedia, except for your last question.

Actually, many things can be missing, ECU's wiki page won't tell that the first stadium used by ECU football was off campus, Guy Smith Stadium from 1932-1948. Then moved on campus to College Stadium from 1949-1962.

This is exactly the kind of information I was looking for. Thanks!
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May I suggest going to our message board to find this information. We don't have many FAU fans on this boards, and I am unable to give you the info that you need. I'm more than sure that somebody will help you out with our off campus stadium and the transition to our new stadium in 2011.

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(04-01-2014 10:02 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  May I suggest going to our message board to find this information. We don't have many FAU fans on this boards, and I am unable to give you the info that you need. I'm more than sure that somebody will help you out with our off campus stadium and the transition to our new stadium in 2011.

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I appreciate the link! I'm doing heavy research on a certain amount of schools per day and when I get back around to FAU I'll stop by your board.
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(04-02-2014 10:35 AM)frenchbeef Wrote:  
(04-01-2014 10:02 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  May I suggest going to our message board to find this information. We don't have many FAU fans on this boards, and I am unable to give you the info that you need. I'm more than sure that somebody will help you out with our off campus stadium and the transition to our new stadium in 2011.

FAUOwlsNest

I appreciate the link! I'm doing heavy research on a certain amount of schools per day and when I get back around to FAU I'll stop by your board.

My pleasure. Unfortunately, our record since the new stadium might be quite the outliner, as we have been down since 2011 (when we moved in) to now.
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I'd be interested in the final results
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(04-02-2014 02:03 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  I'd be interested in the final results

Just thinking yesterday that I'll have to update all of you (who are interested) once I'm finished with the project. Should be by the 21st.
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