Obamacare, the plan purportedly created to provide health coverage for the uninsured, has enrolled just 1.7% of America's 48.6 million uninsured.

News of the disastrous numbers comes as nervous Democrats and President Barack Obama, ahead of the November midterm elections, did their best on Monday's enrollment deadline to put a positive spin on the deeply unpopular Obamacare program. The latest Associated Press poll finds that Obamacare has now hit an all-time low approval rating of just 26 percent.
http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/03/31/oba...ed-covered

We could have just offered the uninsured that signed up free insurance and it would have cost far less than this disaster has.

(04-01-2014 12:02 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  We could have just offered the uninsured that signed up free insurance and it would have cost far less than this disaster has.

we could have sent them all to med school for what we're paying for ACA. hell, we could have almost bought them all their own gaddam hospital for what we're paying for ACA.

(04-01-2014 11:57 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Obamacare, the plan purportedly created to provide health coverage for the uninsured, has enrolled just 1.7% of America's 48.6 million uninsured.

News of the disastrous numbers comes as nervous Democrats and President Barack Obama, ahead of the November midterm elections, did their best on Monday's enrollment deadline to put a positive spin on the deeply unpopular Obamacare program. The latest Associated Press poll finds that Obamacare has now hit an all-time low approval rating of just 26 percent.
http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/03/31/oba...ed-covered

1.7% of 48.6 million is 826,200. Those numbers are so far removed from reality you have to be joking. Heck, if you just take week old numbers from Kentucky and New York where they keep a count of how many are uninsured it totals over 250,000. Medicaid expansion numbers are no less that 4.5million. I think the ACA opponents are in denial.

(04-01-2014 12:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 11:57 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Obamacare, the plan purportedly created to provide health coverage for the uninsured, has enrolled just 1.7% of America's 48.6 million uninsured.

News of the disastrous numbers comes as nervous Democrats and President Barack Obama, ahead of the November midterm elections, did their best on Monday's enrollment deadline to put a positive spin on the deeply unpopular Obamacare program. The latest Associated Press poll finds that Obamacare has now hit an all-time low approval rating of just 26 percent.
http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/03/31/oba...ed-covered

1.7% of 48.6 million is 826,200. Those numbers are so far removed from reality you have to be joking. Heck, if you just take week old numbers from Kentucky and New York where they keep a count of how many are uninsured it totals over 250,000. Medicaid expansion numbers are no less that 4.5million. I think the ACA opponents are in denial.

How many of those people have actually paid their premium?

(04-01-2014 12:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 11:57 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Obamacare, the plan purportedly created to provide health coverage for the uninsured, has enrolled just 1.7% of America's 48.6 million uninsured.

News of the disastrous numbers comes as nervous Democrats and President Barack Obama, ahead of the November midterm elections, did their best on Monday's enrollment deadline to put a positive spin on the deeply unpopular Obamacare program. The latest Associated Press poll finds that Obamacare has now hit an all-time low approval rating of just 26 percent.
http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/03/31/oba...ed-covered

1.7% of 48.6 million is 826,200. Those numbers are so far removed from reality you have to be joking. Heck, if you just take week old numbers from Kentucky and New York where they keep a count of how many are uninsured it totals over 250,000. Medicaid expansion numbers are no less that 4.5million. I think the ACA opponents are in denial.

Medicaid is nothing more that "free" healthcare for the indigent. Why the hell does Obamacare have anything at all to do with Medicaid? Oh yeah, they have to f_ck over all the paying customers to pay for the Medicaid as well.

Why don't they just assign a bum for each paying customer and have the paying customer cut a check to the person getting it for free? You know, cut out the middleman. Eliminate the admin. costs. That would be cheaper than this joke being perpetrated on the American people.

Question - If 4.5 million are counted as part of the ACA numbers, that only leaves 2.5 million left - what is the % of full paying customers, not subsidized?

(04-01-2014 12:32 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 12:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 11:57 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Obamacare, the plan purportedly created to provide health coverage for the uninsured, has enrolled just 1.7% of America's 48.6 million uninsured.

News of the disastrous numbers comes as nervous Democrats and President Barack Obama, ahead of the November midterm elections, did their best on Monday's enrollment deadline to put a positive spin on the deeply unpopular Obamacare program. The latest Associated Press poll finds that Obamacare has now hit an all-time low approval rating of just 26 percent.
http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/03/31/oba...ed-covered

1.7% of 48.6 million is 826,200. Those numbers are so far removed from reality you have to be joking. Heck, if you just take week old numbers from Kentucky and New York where they keep a count of how many are uninsured it totals over 250,000. Medicaid expansion numbers are no less that 4.5million. I think the ACA opponents are in denial.

Medicaid is nothing more that "free" healthcare for the indigent. Why the hell does Obamacare have anything at all to do with Medicaid? Oh yeah, they have to f_ck over all the paying customers to pay for the Medicaid as well.

Why don't they just assign a bum for each paying customer and have the paying customer cut a check to the person getting it for free? You know, cut out the middleman. Eliminate the admin. costs. That would be cheaper than this joke being perpetrated on the American people.

Question - If 4.5 million are counted as part of the ACA numbers, that only leaves 2.5 million left - what is the % of full paying customers, not subsidized?

Go to acasignups.net and you can find the answer.

(04-01-2014 12:40 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 12:32 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 12:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 11:57 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Obamacare, the plan purportedly created to provide health coverage for the uninsured, has enrolled just 1.7% of America's 48.6 million uninsured.

News of the disastrous numbers comes as nervous Democrats and President Barack Obama, ahead of the November midterm elections, did their best on Monday's enrollment deadline to put a positive spin on the deeply unpopular Obamacare program. The latest Associated Press poll finds that Obamacare has now hit an all-time low approval rating of just 26 percent.
http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/03/31/oba...ed-covered

1.7% of 48.6 million is 826,200. Those numbers are so far removed from reality you have to be joking. Heck, if you just take week old numbers from Kentucky and New York where they keep a count of how many are uninsured it totals over 250,000. Medicaid expansion numbers are no less that 4.5million. I think the ACA opponents are in denial.

Medicaid is nothing more that "free" healthcare for the indigent. Why the hell does Obamacare have anything at all to do with Medicaid? Oh yeah, they have to f_ck over all the paying customers to pay for the Medicaid as well.

Why don't they just assign a bum for each paying customer and have the paying customer cut a check to the person getting it for free? You know, cut out the middleman. Eliminate the admin. costs. That would be cheaper than this joke being perpetrated on the American people.

Question - If 4.5 million are counted as part of the ACA numbers, that only leaves 2.5 million left - what is the % of full paying customers, not subsidized?

Go to acasignups.net and you can find the answer.

LOL how many people have actually purchased a plan that were not insured to begin with?

(04-01-2014 12:32 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 12:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 11:57 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Obamacare, the plan purportedly created to provide health coverage for the uninsured, has enrolled just 1.7% of America's 48.6 million uninsured.

News of the disastrous numbers comes as nervous Democrats and President Barack Obama, ahead of the November midterm elections, did their best on Monday's enrollment deadline to put a positive spin on the deeply unpopular Obamacare program. The latest Associated Press poll finds that Obamacare has now hit an all-time low approval rating of just 26 percent.
http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/03/31/oba...ed-covered

1.7% of 48.6 million is 826,200. Those numbers are so far removed from reality you have to be joking. Heck, if you just take week old numbers from Kentucky and New York where they keep a count of how many are uninsured it totals over 250,000. Medicaid expansion numbers are no less that 4.5million. I think the ACA opponents are in denial.

Medicaid is nothing more that "free" healthcare for the indigent. Why the hell does Obamacare have anything at all to do with Medicaid? Oh yeah, they have to f_ck over all the paying customers to pay for the Medicaid as well.

Why don't they just assign a bum for each paying customer and have the paying customer cut a check to the person getting it for free? You know, cut out the middleman. Eliminate the admin. costs. That would be cheaper than this joke being perpetrated on the American people.

Question - If 4.5 million are counted as part of the ACA numbers, that only leaves 2.5 million left - what is the % of full paying customers, not subsidized?

That is pretty much what we have been doing for years. With medicaid the hospitals get paid rather than having to take the $ loses. Rural hospitals where there are very high numbers of indigent patients are suffering greatly because of this. They can't provide the quality of care that we need. Health care costs are passed to the paying customers like you and me. It (Medicaid) will make a significant difference economically if it is expanded. It is also important to point out that expanded Medicaid is primarily a benefit for the working poor.

(04-01-2014 12:43 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 12:40 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 12:32 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 12:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 11:57 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Obamacare, the plan purportedly created to provide health coverage for the uninsured, has enrolled just 1.7% of America's 48.6 million uninsured.

News of the disastrous numbers comes as nervous Democrats and President Barack Obama, ahead of the November midterm elections, did their best on Monday's enrollment deadline to put a positive spin on the deeply unpopular Obamacare program. The latest Associated Press poll finds that Obamacare has now hit an all-time low approval rating of just 26 percent.
http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/03/31/oba...ed-covered

1.7% of 48.6 million is 826,200. Those numbers are so far removed from reality you have to be joking. Heck, if you just take week old numbers from Kentucky and New York where they keep a count of how many are uninsured it totals over 250,000. Medicaid expansion numbers are no less that 4.5million. I think the ACA opponents are in denial.

Medicaid is nothing more that "free" healthcare for the indigent. Why the hell does Obamacare have anything at all to do with Medicaid? Oh yeah, they have to f_ck over all the paying customers to pay for the Medicaid as well.

Why don't they just assign a bum for each paying customer and have the paying customer cut a check to the person getting it for free? You know, cut out the middleman. Eliminate the admin. costs. That would be cheaper than this joke being perpetrated on the American people.

Question - If 4.5 million are counted as part of the ACA numbers, that only leaves 2.5 million left - what is the % of full paying customers, not subsidized?

Go to acasignups.net and you can find the answer.

LOL how many people have actually purchased a plan that were not insured to begin with?

We have been going over this repeatedly. Go back and read some of the earlier posts on the topic, visit the site I gave you, or google it. There have been several reports, polls, surveys and predictions.

(04-01-2014 12:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 11:57 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Obamacare, the plan purportedly created to provide health coverage for the uninsured, has enrolled just 1.7% of America's 48.6 million uninsured.

News of the disastrous numbers comes as nervous Democrats and President Barack Obama, ahead of the November midterm elections, did their best on Monday's enrollment deadline to put a positive spin on the deeply unpopular Obamacare program. The latest Associated Press poll finds that Obamacare has now hit an all-time low approval rating of just 26 percent.
http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/03/31/oba...ed-covered

1.7% of 48.6 million is 826,200. Those numbers are so far removed from reality you have to be joking. Heck, if you just take week old numbers from Kentucky and New York where they keep a count of how many are uninsured it totals over 250,000. Medicaid expansion numbers are no less that 4.5million. I think the ACA opponents are in denial.

Most of the sign ups were people who already had insurance.

The reported impact on the uninsured is a reasonable number.

Accurate? Who can tell at this point? But certainly reasonable.

So even if it were double, triple, quadruple that it is still a failure when you consider how much the treasury has spent and the upcoming bailout of the insurance companies. Another ZERO failure. FAILURE I tell you. Young people are on the hook, hope you like your socialism.

Seriously? You posted something from Fox Nation? Fox's equivalent to DU, WND, and the Daily Kos? And you want to be taken seriously? Really?

But hey, you continue to live in your alternative reality. I'll live in the real one.

Quote:The surge came as a new report suggested that at least 9.5 million previously uninsured people have obtained health coverage since the October launch of Obamacare plans and Medicaid marketed by the exchanges. That report also suggested fewer than 1 million previously insured people had been left uninsured because their old plans did not meet new ACA requirements.

Obamacare deadline spurs enrollment flood

(04-01-2014 01:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Seriously? You posted something from Fox Nation? Fox's equivalent to DU, WND, and the Daily Kos? And you want to be taken seriously? Really?

But hey, you continue to live in your alternative reality. I'll live in the real one.

Quote:The surge came as a new report suggested that at least 9.5 million previously uninsured people have obtained health coverage since the October launch of Obamacare plans and Medicaid marketed by the exchanges. That report also suggested fewer than 1 million previously insured people had been left uninsured because their old plans did not meet new ACA requirements.

Obamacare deadline spurs enrollment flood

Still waiting on one of you Obama loving liberals to tell us how many people have actually bought premiums.

We don't know all the details yet moron. These are estimates by groups who don't have a dog in the hunt. Yet you guys insist the thing is a failure. You can't have it both ways. If you're honest that is.

(04-01-2014 01:56 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  We don't know all the details yet moron. Yet you guys insist the thing is a failure. You can't have it both ways. If you're honest that is.

Of course we don't. Just like none of the sources reporting that we are now at 7 million signups has any earthly idea what it is talking about. Going by common sense figures, the source I posted is closer to being a reality.

(04-01-2014 01:56 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  We don't know all the details yet moron. These are estimates by groups who don't have a dog in the hunt. Yet you guys insist the thing is a failure. You can't have it both ways. If you're honest that is.

Why not?*

* Yes I know, another question that you're unable to answer.

(04-01-2014 11:57 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Obamacare, the plan purportedly created to provide health coverage for the uninsured, has enrolled just 1.7% of America's 48.6 million uninsured.

Makes perfect sense. What if the government took away your car and said you had to buy one from them and they offered prices based on what you could afford to pay? The people who already had cars would have to go out and buy one, and some people who didn't have a car just might go out and get one now that someone else is paying for it. And still others who never had a need for a car in the first place might not buy one at all.

As I said in a different thread, if you cancel someone's insurance and then they go out and buy what you're requiring them to have then it cannot be considered successful if the cancellations and enrollment numbers are similar.

(04-01-2014 02:25 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 11:57 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Obamacare, the plan purportedly created to provide health coverage for the uninsured, has enrolled just 1.7% of America's 48.6 million uninsured.

Makes perfect sense. What if the government took away your car and said you had to buy one from them and they offered prices based on what you could afford to pay? The people who already had cars would have to go out and buy one, and some people who didn't have a car just might go out and get one now that someone else is paying for it. And still others who never had a need for a car in the first place might not buy one at all.

As I said in a different thread, if you cancel someone's insurance and then they go out and buy what you're requiring them to have then it cannot be considered successful if the cancellations and enrollment numbers are similar.

It is anti-American that the gov't is now allowed to do that. Sucks.

I does mean they are cooking the books for political reasons. It is their nature.