(03-29-2014 05:29 PM)MuchLuck Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 05:23 PM)TigerFishbowl Wrote:  The original post asked "When did these things become more important than winning?" I'd say right around the time that our last two Final Four appearances have been vacated. I'm done with the whole "win at all costs" mentality. I would LOVE to hang a championship banner in the Forum, but I want it done cleanly with a good national reputation. When we had that great 4 year run with Cal, we were perceived to be one of the shadiest programs in the country regardless of whether that perception was justified or not. I feel that if we win a championship with Josh, nobody will accuse him of being a slimeball or think we pulled strings to get there.

Ditto

My follow up to that would be why did it take TWO vacated Final Fours for you to feel that way? And I do wonder if we (as a fan base) will ever get back to the point where we're again starving for the run John took us on, and again willing to win at all cost.

Can a program win big time and be totally honest above bending a few NCAA rules? To get the truly elite players?

(03-29-2014 05:21 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 05:09 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 04:10 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  It's funny, I hear some of the same things from many Tiger fans here and others who don't post here. Things like..

"Josh is building it the RIGHT way"
"Josh is a great ambassador for the city"
"He's graduating players and has had no off-the-court incidents"
"Josh is getting better, but more importantly he's restored the university's reputation"

These things are GOOD, things to be proud of, but I certainly question the MOTIVES behind these statements.

When did these things become more important than winning?

Was it the day Cal walked out and Josh stepped in? If so, it's a little hypocritical, don't you think? For years we won and won big with John. How many threads, how many posters here were willing to overlook, ignore, and make excuses for our players poor graduation rate, multitude of off-the-court problems, and Cal's foul mouth?

It seems a little too convenient to me that when a young coach, who on the surface comes across as the 'Anti-John Calipari', steps in and takes control over the program, a segment of the fan base "sees the light" and begins prioritizing things that for a decade went ignored or were quieted down by our so-called Hall of Fame posters here at MT.org.

Now it's just the opposite. We have a coach who clearly is committed doing things by the book, has had some legitimate on-court success, but undoubtedly has a long way to go. Those who criticize or bash are shouted down by our Hall of Famers because NOW instead of winning at all cost, winning the RIGHT WAY is the status quo. And it's brought up countless times per day..

So whether or not Josh has what it takes to win at high level is irrelevant for some here. Many around town seem to be content with Josh, no matter what, simply because they hate John Calipari. They hate how he made them overlook things that are now conveniently important. They hate that he made it okay to want to win at all-cost and then left us high and dry, even though we ALL knew John has always been about John.

So ask yourselves, if John Calipari were still coaching here at Memphis, making deep NCAA tournament runs, with players who weren't graduating or representing the city well, would you still be blindly following?

Is it right to question the motives of posters here who DO prioritize winning more than graduation rates, discipline, and cursing on the sidelines when you, yourself, were willing to overlook it not too long ago?

This is something that has bothered me for awhile.

You need to consider we are not talking about a professional franchise. We are talking about a University whose primary mission is to fund the university academics. Sports is a way draw positive attention to the university which has been proven will raise donations for the entire university. For me it is easy to get caught up in the drama and excitement of winning and feeling proud of the University. I live in Atlanta where only die hard basketball people know about the Tigers history and tradition. When we made it to the championship game, most of the hall way/water cooler conversations I heard after the game from the average fan included the word 'thug'/'gangsta'/'cheat'. I tried to be an advocate for the Tigers by pointing to the graduation rates. Also, the talk radio was bashing Calipari for the UMASS mess and said it wouldn't be long before Memphis was nailed. Then the Rose story broke. It is what it is. Paster, JJ, CC and others are slowly but surely helping to change the image of Memphis basketball.

I'm with you man. I dealt with a lot of the same comments where I was at the time and felt almost foolish trying to defend the program. But my post is more about fan motives than it is about Calipari or Pastner.

Do we just embrace whatever is in front of us because we're fans (fanatics for short)? Doesn't it seem a little hypocritical for those Tiger fans, who were fine NOT discussing what was going on off-the-court from 2005-2009 because we were winning, but seem intent on using it now to prop up Josh?

I suppose that at first glance a person would say yes, it is hypocritical. However, there were some bright spots off the court while Cal was the head coach. He reached out to all the former players that didn't graduate and offered them the opportunity to get their degree. There was significant improvement in the graduation rates of our basketball players and to some degree across the whole athletic department because of the programs put in place. It wasn't entirely negative. Cal supporters had something they could point to, at least in their own minds, that made the off the court issues more palatable.

I think for me though, like others have said, trying to defend the program fell on deaf ears. Each passing year I became less enthusiastic about Cal and the baggage that seemed to come with him. I believe we can have both a clean program with a stellar reputation AND win at a high level. I don't know if Josh is the guy to do that but he has one part of it and it's the part we'd been missing for so long.


Or, there's the Rip Scherer effect; They are both extremely likeable because of their character and you want to see guys like that succeed. So you give them every benefit of the doubt and as much time as you can possibly stand to produce a winner

Honestly did anyone want to fire Cal when we were up 9 with 2: 12 to go against Kansas?

(03-29-2014 06:30 PM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 05:21 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 05:09 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 04:10 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  It's funny, I hear some of the same things from many Tiger fans here and others who don't post here. Things like..

"Josh is building it the RIGHT way"
"Josh is a great ambassador for the city"
"He's graduating players and has had no off-the-court incidents"
"Josh is getting better, but more importantly he's restored the university's reputation"

These things are GOOD, things to be proud of, but I certainly question the MOTIVES behind these statements.

When did these things become more important than winning?

Was it the day Cal walked out and Josh stepped in? If so, it's a little hypocritical, don't you think? For years we won and won big with John. How many threads, how many posters here were willing to overlook, ignore, and make excuses for our players poor graduation rate, multitude of off-the-court problems, and Cal's foul mouth?

It seems a little too convenient to me that when a young coach, who on the surface comes across as the 'Anti-John Calipari', steps in and takes control over the program, a segment of the fan base "sees the light" and begins prioritizing things that for a decade went ignored or were quieted down by our so-called Hall of Fame posters here at MT.org.

Now it's just the opposite. We have a coach who clearly is committed doing things by the book, has had some legitimate on-court success, but undoubtedly has a long way to go. Those who criticize or bash are shouted down by our Hall of Famers because NOW instead of winning at all cost, winning the RIGHT WAY is the status quo. And it's brought up countless times per day..

So whether or not Josh has what it takes to win at high level is irrelevant for some here. Many around town seem to be content with Josh, no matter what, simply because they hate John Calipari. They hate how he made them overlook things that are now conveniently important. They hate that he made it okay to want to win at all-cost and then left us high and dry, even though we ALL knew John has always been about John.

So ask yourselves, if John Calipari were still coaching here at Memphis, making deep NCAA tournament runs, with players who weren't graduating or representing the city well, would you still be blindly following?

Is it right to question the motives of posters here who DO prioritize winning more than graduation rates, discipline, and cursing on the sidelines when you, yourself, were willing to overlook it not too long ago?

This is something that has bothered me for awhile.

You need to consider we are not talking about a professional franchise. We are talking about a University whose primary mission is to fund the university academics. Sports is a way draw positive attention to the university which has been proven will raise donations for the entire university. For me it is easy to get caught up in the drama and excitement of winning and feeling proud of the University. I live in Atlanta where only die hard basketball people know about the Tigers history and tradition. When we made it to the championship game, most of the hall way/water cooler conversations I heard after the game from the average fan included the word 'thug'/'gangsta'/'cheat'. I tried to be an advocate for the Tigers by pointing to the graduation rates. Also, the talk radio was bashing Calipari for the UMASS mess and said it wouldn't be long before Memphis was nailed. Then the Rose story broke. It is what it is. Paster, JJ, CC and others are slowly but surely helping to change the image of Memphis basketball.

I'm with you man. I dealt with a lot of the same comments where I was at the time and felt almost foolish trying to defend the program. But my post is more about fan motives than it is about Calipari or Pastner.

Do we just embrace whatever is in front of us because we're fans (fanatics for short)? Doesn't it seem a little hypocritical for those Tiger fans, who were fine NOT discussing what was going on off-the-court from 2005-2009 because we were winning, but seem intent on using it now to prop up Josh?

What other choice do we have? Stop being a fan? If that's the case, you (not you but in general) were never one.

It was too embarrassing to discuss. And not all of us thought back then that Cal was God.

Are you really saying that if you don't support the University because you feel they are making a wrong decision, you are not a fan?

Choose to do as you please, but my support must be earned. It is not given blindly.

(03-29-2014 06:35 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 06:32 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  I'm glad I have a pathetic life.


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Me too. I have to be satisfied with my own accomplishments, but at least I don't mope around waiting for a bunch of college kids to win a game to fill me with hope and personal self-esteem.

Precisely.

And write 3 page dissertations to idiots on a anonymous message board.


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(03-29-2014 06:48 PM)blutgr39 Wrote:  Can a program win big time and be totally honest above bending a few NCAA rules? To get the truly elite players?

No. They all do it.

(03-29-2014 07:02 PM)AmazingTigerMan Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 06:30 PM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 05:21 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 05:09 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 04:10 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  It's funny, I hear some of the same things from many Tiger fans here and others who don't post here. Things like..

"Josh is building it the RIGHT way"
"Josh is a great ambassador for the city"
"He's graduating players and has had no off-the-court incidents"
"Josh is getting better, but more importantly he's restored the university's reputation"

These things are GOOD, things to be proud of, but I certainly question the MOTIVES behind these statements.

When did these things become more important than winning?

Was it the day Cal walked out and Josh stepped in? If so, it's a little hypocritical, don't you think? For years we won and won big with John. How many threads, how many posters here were willing to overlook, ignore, and make excuses for our players poor graduation rate, multitude of off-the-court problems, and Cal's foul mouth?

It seems a little too convenient to me that when a young coach, who on the surface comes across as the 'Anti-John Calipari', steps in and takes control over the program, a segment of the fan base "sees the light" and begins prioritizing things that for a decade went ignored or were quieted down by our so-called Hall of Fame posters here at MT.org.

Now it's just the opposite. We have a coach who clearly is committed doing things by the book, has had some legitimate on-court success, but undoubtedly has a long way to go. Those who criticize or bash are shouted down by our Hall of Famers because NOW instead of winning at all cost, winning the RIGHT WAY is the status quo. And it's brought up countless times per day..

So whether or not Josh has what it takes to win at high level is irrelevant for some here. Many around town seem to be content with Josh, no matter what, simply because they hate John Calipari. They hate how he made them overlook things that are now conveniently important. They hate that he made it okay to want to win at all-cost and then left us high and dry, even though we ALL knew John has always been about John.

So ask yourselves, if John Calipari were still coaching here at Memphis, making deep NCAA tournament runs, with players who weren't graduating or representing the city well, would you still be blindly following?

Is it right to question the motives of posters here who DO prioritize winning more than graduation rates, discipline, and cursing on the sidelines when you, yourself, were willing to overlook it not too long ago?

This is something that has bothered me for awhile.

You need to consider we are not talking about a professional franchise. We are talking about a University whose primary mission is to fund the university academics. Sports is a way draw positive attention to the university which has been proven will raise donations for the entire university. For me it is easy to get caught up in the drama and excitement of winning and feeling proud of the University. I live in Atlanta where only die hard basketball people know about the Tigers history and tradition. When we made it to the championship game, most of the hall way/water cooler conversations I heard after the game from the average fan included the word 'thug'/'gangsta'/'cheat'. I tried to be an advocate for the Tigers by pointing to the graduation rates. Also, the talk radio was bashing Calipari for the UMASS mess and said it wouldn't be long before Memphis was nailed. Then the Rose story broke. It is what it is. Paster, JJ, CC and others are slowly but surely helping to change the image of Memphis basketball.

I'm with you man. I dealt with a lot of the same comments where I was at the time and felt almost foolish trying to defend the program. But my post is more about fan motives than it is about Calipari or Pastner.

Do we just embrace whatever is in front of us because we're fans (fanatics for short)? Doesn't it seem a little hypocritical for those Tiger fans, who were fine NOT discussing what was going on off-the-court from 2005-2009 because we were winning, but seem intent on using it now to prop up Josh?

What other choice do we have? Stop being a fan? If that's the case, you (not you but in general) were never one.

It was too embarrassing to discuss. And not all of us thought back then that Cal was God.

Are you really saying that if you don't support the University because you feel they are making a wrong decision, you are not a fan?

Choose to do as you please, but my support must be earned. It is not given blindly.

I am sorry, no disrespect here......but that doesn't even make sense.

(03-29-2014 07:42 PM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 07:02 PM)AmazingTigerMan Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 06:30 PM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 05:21 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 05:09 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  You need to consider we are not talking about a professional franchise. We are talking about a University whose primary mission is to fund the university academics. Sports is a way draw positive attention to the university which has been proven will raise donations for the entire university. For me it is easy to get caught up in the drama and excitement of winning and feeling proud of the University. I live in Atlanta where only die hard basketball people know about the Tigers history and tradition. When we made it to the championship game, most of the hall way/water cooler conversations I heard after the game from the average fan included the word 'thug'/'gangsta'/'cheat'. I tried to be an advocate for the Tigers by pointing to the graduation rates. Also, the talk radio was bashing Calipari for the UMASS mess and said it wouldn't be long before Memphis was nailed. Then the Rose story broke. It is what it is. Paster, JJ, CC and others are slowly but surely helping to change the image of Memphis basketball.

I'm with you man. I dealt with a lot of the same comments where I was at the time and felt almost foolish trying to defend the program. But my post is more about fan motives than it is about Calipari or Pastner.

Do we just embrace whatever is in front of us because we're fans (fanatics for short)? Doesn't it seem a little hypocritical for those Tiger fans, who were fine NOT discussing what was going on off-the-court from 2005-2009 because we were winning, but seem intent on using it now to prop up Josh?

What other choice do we have? Stop being a fan? If that's the case, you (not you but in general) were never one.

It was too embarrassing to discuss. And not all of us thought back then that Cal was God.

Are you really saying that if you don't support the University because you feel they are making a wrong decision, you are not a fan?

Choose to do as you please, but my support must be earned. It is not given blindly.

I am sorry, no disrespect here......but that doesn't even make sense.

Makes plenty of sense.

Making sense is not allowed here.

(03-29-2014 08:01 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  Making sense is not allowed here.

Good point.

(03-29-2014 07:02 PM)AmazingTigerMan Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 06:30 PM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 05:21 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 05:09 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 04:10 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  It's funny, I hear some of the same things from many Tiger fans here and others who don't post here. Things like..

"Josh is building it the RIGHT way"
"Josh is a great ambassador for the city"
"He's graduating players and has had no off-the-court incidents"
"Josh is getting better, but more importantly he's restored the university's reputation"

These things are GOOD, things to be proud of, but I certainly question the MOTIVES behind these statements.

When did these things become more important than winning?

Was it the day Cal walked out and Josh stepped in? If so, it's a little hypocritical, don't you think? For years we won and won big with John. How many threads, how many posters here were willing to overlook, ignore, and make excuses for our players poor graduation rate, multitude of off-the-court problems, and Cal's foul mouth?

It seems a little too convenient to me that when a young coach, who on the surface comes across as the 'Anti-John Calipari', steps in and takes control over the program, a segment of the fan base "sees the light" and begins prioritizing things that for a decade went ignored or were quieted down by our so-called Hall of Fame posters here at MT.org.

Now it's just the opposite. We have a coach who clearly is committed doing things by the book, has had some legitimate on-court success, but undoubtedly has a long way to go. Those who criticize or bash are shouted down by our Hall of Famers because NOW instead of winning at all cost, winning the RIGHT WAY is the status quo. And it's brought up countless times per day..

So whether or not Josh has what it takes to win at high level is irrelevant for some here. Many around town seem to be content with Josh, no matter what, simply because they hate John Calipari. They hate how he made them overlook things that are now conveniently important. They hate that he made it okay to want to win at all-cost and then left us high and dry, even though we ALL knew John has always been about John.

So ask yourselves, if John Calipari were still coaching here at Memphis, making deep NCAA tournament runs, with players who weren't graduating or representing the city well, would you still be blindly following?

Is it right to question the motives of posters here who DO prioritize winning more than graduation rates, discipline, and cursing on the sidelines when you, yourself, were willing to overlook it not too long ago?

This is something that has bothered me for awhile.

You need to consider we are not talking about a professional franchise. We are talking about a University whose primary mission is to fund the university academics. Sports is a way draw positive attention to the university which has been proven will raise donations for the entire university. For me it is easy to get caught up in the drama and excitement of winning and feeling proud of the University. I live in Atlanta where only die hard basketball people know about the Tigers history and tradition. When we made it to the championship game, most of the hall way/water cooler conversations I heard after the game from the average fan included the word 'thug'/'gangsta'/'cheat'. I tried to be an advocate for the Tigers by pointing to the graduation rates. Also, the talk radio was bashing Calipari for the UMASS mess and said it wouldn't be long before Memphis was nailed. Then the Rose story broke. It is what it is. Paster, JJ, CC and others are slowly but surely helping to change the image of Memphis basketball.

I'm with you man. I dealt with a lot of the same comments where I was at the time and felt almost foolish trying to defend the program. But my post is more about fan motives than it is about Calipari or Pastner.

Do we just embrace whatever is in front of us because we're fans (fanatics for short)? Doesn't it seem a little hypocritical for those Tiger fans, who were fine NOT discussing what was going on off-the-court from 2005-2009 because we were winning, but seem intent on using it now to prop up Josh?

What other choice do we have? Stop being a fan? If that's the case, you (not you but in general) were never one.

It was too embarrassing to discuss. And not all of us thought back then that Cal was God.

Are you really saying that if you don't support the University because you feel they are making a wrong decision, you are not a fan?

Choose to do as you please, but my support must be earned. It is not given blindly.

So what you are saying is you support them as long as you are happy. Maybe we should look at the positives, look at where we think we have deficiencies, find a plan to work on the deficiencies, and then reevaluate. Some act as though the program is in the ditch. Hard to understand if you look at the big picture. But that is why Memphis is considered Memphis.

I think he was saying that he found it hard to support a crooked Administration.

The sad truth is if we do win it all, no one is going to think we won it "the right way" except Memphis fans. The average college basketball fan sees the Tigers on ESPN and thinks "thugs and cheaters." If you believe that Pastner is changing that national image, you're fooling yourself. It comes down to how you want to feel about your basketball program. Had Chalmers missed in 2008, we'd have a banner and Kansas' season would have been vacated due to the Darrell Arthur issue. Kansas didn't win it the right way but their fans certainly believe it. No one with any knowledge of the background would believe they did. College basketball is a cesspool and anyone who believes that any program can win it all "the right way," whatever that may be, is once again fooling himself.


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(03-29-2014 08:40 PM)dexterreed Wrote:  The sad truth is if we do win it all, no one is going to think we won it "the right way" except Memphis fans. The average college basketball fan sees the Tigers on ESPN and thinks "thugs and cheaters." If you believe that Pastner is changing that national image, you're fooling yourself. It comes down to how you want to feel about your basketball program. Had Chalmers missed in 2008, we'd have a banner and Kansas' season would have been vacated due to the Darrell Arthur issue. Kansas didn't win it the right way but their fans certainly believe it. No one with any knowledge of the background would believe they did. College basketball is a cesspool and anyone who believes that any program can win it all "the right way," whatever that may be, is once again fooling himself.


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Great post!

(03-29-2014 08:49 PM)Tigerbluesky Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 08:40 PM)dexterreed Wrote:  The sad truth is if we do win it all, no one is going to think we won it "the right way" except Memphis fans. The average college basketball fan sees the Tigers on ESPN and thinks "thugs and cheaters." If you believe that Pastner is changing that national image, you're fooling yourself. It comes down to how you want to feel about your basketball program. Had Chalmers missed in 2008, we'd have a banner and Kansas' season would have been vacated due to the Darrell Arthur issue. Kansas didn't win it the right way but their fans certainly believe it. No one with any knowledge of the background would believe they did. College basketball is a cesspool and anyone who believes that any program can win it all "the right way," whatever that may be, is once again fooling himself.


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Great post!

This is a great post!!

(03-29-2014 08:40 PM)dexterreed Wrote:  The sad truth is if we do win it all, no one is going to think we won it "the right way" except Memphis fans. The average college basketball fan sees the Tigers on ESPN and thinks "thugs and cheaters." If you believe that Pastner is changing that national image, you're fooling yourself. It comes down to how you want to feel about your basketball program. Had Chalmers missed in 2008, we'd have a banner and Kansas' season would have been vacated due to the Darrell Arthur issue. Kansas didn't win it the right way but their fans certainly believe it. No one with any knowledge of the background would believe they did. College basketball is a cesspool and anyone who believes that any program can win it all "the right way," whatever that may be, is once again fooling himself.


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Want some aged cheese with that vintage whine?

(03-29-2014 08:40 PM)dexterreed Wrote:  The sad truth is if we do win it all, no one is going to think we won it "the right way" except Memphis fans. The average college basketball fan sees the Tigers on ESPN and thinks "thugs and cheaters." If you believe that Pastner is changing that national image, you're fooling yourself. It comes down to how you want to feel about your basketball program. Had Chalmers missed in 2008, we'd have a banner and Kansas' season would have been vacated due to the Darrell Arthur issue. Kansas didn't win it the right way but their fans certainly believe it. No one with any knowledge of the background would believe they did. College basketball is a cesspool and anyone who believes that any program can win it all "the right way," whatever that may be, is once again fooling himself.


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Everything you said is probably true. Sad, but true. Maybe one day....we (I) can only hope.

(03-29-2014 08:40 PM)dexterreed Wrote:  The sad truth is if we do win it all, no one is going to think we won it "the right way" except Memphis fans. The average college basketball fan sees the Tigers on ESPN and thinks "thugs and cheaters." If you believe that Pastner is changing that national image, you're fooling yourself. It comes down to how you want to feel about your basketball program. Had Chalmers missed in 2008, we'd have a banner and Kansas' season would have been vacated due to the Darrell Arthur issue. Kansas didn't win it the right way but their fans certainly believe it. No one with any knowledge of the background would believe they did. College basketball is a cesspool and anyone who believes that any program can win it all "the right way," whatever that may be, is once again fooling himself.


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Memphis's image is changing. You might not want to believe it, but it is. I've heard it here in Atlanta. Maybe not to the street corner philosopher, who judges a program by the ESPN top 10, but to those with at least 1/2 brain, it is changing. It will take a long time.

(03-29-2014 08:40 PM)dexterreed Wrote:  The sad truth is if we do win it all, no one is going to think we won it "the right way" except Memphis fans. The average college basketball fan sees the Tigers on ESPN and thinks "thugs and cheaters." If you believe that Pastner is changing that national image, you're fooling yourself. It comes down to how you want to feel about your basketball program. Had Chalmers missed in 2008, we'd have a banner and Kansas' season would have been vacated due to the Darrell Arthur issue. Kansas didn't win it the right way but their fans certainly believe it. No one with any knowledge of the background would believe they did. College basketball is a cesspool and anyone who believes that any program can win it all "the right way," whatever that may be, is once again fooling himself.


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Kansas would not have their season vacated because they are one of the blues-bloods and in this modern era the NCAA is about basically protecting them because the brands have become too big (unless something was so egregious that they had to do something).

Memphis is not one of them and that's why the NCAA and the media will always and has always had their eyes on us. The 2008 Memphis-Kansas situation convinced me all the more of the complete unfairness and bias towards our program and that we have to do it the right way as much as possible because we have no chance of getting a pass or a slap on the wrist if things came to light