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Juice is a finalist for Mid-Major Player of the Year
An award named for Lou Henson. Western's David Brown is also a finalist.

Here's a link.

http://www.utrockets.com/ViewArticle.dbm...=209447235
03-28-2014 03:08 PM
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RE: Juice is a finalist for Mid-Major Player of the Year
How do you guys feel about all this mid-major hoopla? Mid-major top 25 polls, mid-major coach of the year award, mid-major player of the week award, mid-major this, mid-major that. It leaves all the mid-majors in this separate little circle that no one really cares about unless you're a mid-major. And we're in the same division as the 'big boys'! I don't get why we're separated like this.
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RE: Juice is a finalist for Mid-Major Player of the Year
Why do they split high schools into regions or divisions? After all they are still high schools?!

... they do it because compared to the level of competition mid majors play on a regular basis, it puts them together and sets players/coaches/teams apart from the rest of mid major play. Of course majors rule most of the awards, but occasionally there are players, coaches, and teams that should be rewarded. MCdermot and the Dayton Flyers and the S.F.A coach should all be first place in something.

I'd rather be the 10th best Mid Major team than the 85th best in NCAA. It helps in recruiting. At least we can go 27-7 and not 16-16 like comparative teams in talent in big conferences.
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RE: Juice is a finalist for Mid-Major Player of the Year
(03-28-2014 04:14 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Why do they split high schools into regions or divisions? After all they are still high schools?!

... they do it because compared to the level of competition mid majors play on a regular basis, it puts them together and sets players/coaches/teams apart from the rest of mid major play. Of course majors rule most of the awards, but occasionally there are players, coaches, and teams that should be rewarded. MCdermot and the Dayton Flyers and the S.F.A coach should all be first place in something.

I'd rather be the 10th best Mid Major team than the 85th best in NCAA. It helps in recruiting. At least we can go 27-7 and not 16-16 like comparative teams in talent in big conferences.


The comparison of high schools and colleges does not make sense.
High schools are divided into regions because where the high school is physically located. High schools are divided by divisions because of how many students attend each school. Ex.: a public high school with 2,000 students has a larger talent pool to draw from than a high school with only 500 students.

College sports teams have nothing to do with the size of the student body. For example: both Ferris State and Lake Superior State in Michigan play most of their sports teams at the NCAA Division II level. However, both schools play Men's Hockey at Division I.

Toledo has about 20,000 students, and considered a "Mid Major". Miami (Fla.) has about 14,000 and is a "Major Major" (so to say). So your explaination is incorrect.

Being a Division I Major sports school has to do with fan base, marketing, corporate sponsership, alumni donations, conference affiliation, traditions, location, stadium sizes, media coverage, etc.......

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I can't do alot about some of the things l listed above, but I can, and do, promote a change in conference affiliation for The University of Toledo. That's one thing I can do for MY university.....
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RE: Juice is a finalist for Mid-Major Player of the Year
(03-28-2014 03:15 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  How do you guys feel about all this mid-major hoopla? Mid-major top 25 polls, mid-major coach of the year award, mid-major player of the week award, mid-major this, mid-major that. It leaves all the mid-majors in this separate little circle that no one really cares about unless you're a mid-major. And we're in the same division as the 'big boys'! I don't get why we're separated like this.

I don't want to take anything away from Juice, but I find the "mid-major" classification offensive, too. We're in Div. I just like the schools that have deep pockets and still cheat to win.
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RE: Juice is a finalist for Mid-Major Player of the Year
(03-28-2014 06:04 PM)Terry Wrote:  
(03-28-2014 04:14 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Why do they split high schools into regions or divisions? After all they are still high schools?!

... they do it because compared to the level of competition mid majors play on a regular basis, it puts them together and sets players/coaches/teams apart from the rest of mid major play. Of course majors rule most of the awards, but occasionally there are players, coaches, and teams that should be rewarded. MCdermot and the Dayton Flyers and the S.F.A coach should all be first place in something.

I'd rather be the 10th best Mid Major team than the 85th best in NCAA. It helps in recruiting. At least we can go 27-7 and not 16-16 like comparative teams in talent in big conferences.


The comparison of high schools and colleges does not make sense.
High schools are divided into regions because where the high school is physically located. High schools are divided by divisions because of how many students attend each school. Ex.: a public high school with 2,000 students has a larger talent pool to draw from than a high school with only 500 students.

College sports teams have nothing to do with the size of the student body. For example: both Ferris State and Lake Superior State in Michigan play most of their sports teams at the NCAA Division II level. However, both schools play Men's Hockey at Division I.

Toledo has about 20,000 students, and considered a "Mid Major". Miami (Fla.) has about 14,000 and is a "Major Major" (so to say). So your explaination is incorrect.

Being a Division I Major sports school has to do with fan base, marketing, corporate sponsership, alumni donations, conference affiliation, traditions, location, stadium sizes, media coverage, etc.......

Note:
I can't do alot about some of the things l listed above, but I can, and do, promote a change in conference affiliation for The University of Toledo. That's one thing I can do for MY university.....

I couldn't have said it better.
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RE: Juice is a finalist for Mid-Major Player of the Year
I think the attempt to disqualify our players, coaches and teams for being mid majors is absurd. You understand that our scheduling non majors will always hold us back from having a national POTY, COTY, or NCAA championship team? If you want only one POTY, COTY, and NCAA champ....great. I disagree. The other end of season tournaments and accolades are good for Toledo, and mid majors alike.
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RE: Juice is a finalist for Mid-Major Player of the Year
(03-29-2014 08:00 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I think the attempt to disqualify our players, coaches and teams for being mid majors is absurd. You understand that our scheduling non majors will always hold us back from having a national POTY, COTY, or NCAA championship team? If you want only one POTY, COTY, and NCAA champ....great. I disagree. The other end of season tournaments and accolades are good for Toledo, and mid majors alike.

Good idea. We could also have POY based on team mascots and school colors too.
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