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(03-29-2014 10:11 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  A team does not just cut loose a guy that talented in the prime of his career that way.

They (Phillly) also don't cut players who make racist comments and instead reward them.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...ooper.html

(03-30-2014 05:23 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Sometimes this board really frightens me. Is this typical of a gang-member:

Jackson is, contrary to this off-field image people have cultivated for him, a pillar of the community. He runs The DeSean Jackson Foundation—a charity that does everything from promote literacy and educate youth about bullying, to fighting against pancreatic cancer, a disease which claimed Jackson’s father. Furthermore, Jackson’s segment on ESPN’s “My Wish” series, wherein he invited Donovan Troy, a 10-year-old boy who had his spleen removed as a toddler and requires monthly blood transfusions, to spend the day with him at the Eagles’ training facility in Philadelphia is a total tearjerker:


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...ooper.html

I'm notbuying this BS about Jackson and his relation to gangs. I think this is more about Chip Kelly not being able to control Jackson. One reason you may not hear Jackson's teammate step out for him because they may not like him for the way he carries himself on the field and in the locker room. The only thing that smells bad hear is stereotyping.

So are you saying just because he does some good work, he is incapable of being a bad person? Can you explain his house robbery to me? Can you explain where his teammates are? Can you tell me the last guy cut loose after having a 1300 yard receiving season in the prime of his career?

Something stinks here, and it stinks bad. And in case you haven't read much, a cop was quoted in the gang stories I read.

Does make a case that character matters- even in big business like the NFL.

Even a huge jerk like Richie Incognito had people speak up for him, and there were a lot of really reprehensible things he said and did on the record and out for people to see. I find it telling that Jackson's teammates have nothing to say in his defense.

And of course none of us *know* the facts. We're a bunch of people on a message board running our mouths. Innocent until guilty, yes... but nothing we say is going to change Jackson's position, especially after he has been let go. I would add that his defenders don't know the facts either. It was not that long ago that Aaron Hernandez was not thought to be all that bad a guy either.

Pro management people talk to their peers around the league. A telling point may be made if no other team jumps at this opportunity to sign a top player who has been cut loose.

Didn't he flash gang signs during games? Maybe you shouldnt flash gang signs if you don't want to be associated with gangs..

(03-30-2014 09:12 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 05:23 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Sometimes this board really frightens me. Is this typical of a gang-member:

Jackson is, contrary to this off-field image people have cultivated for him, a pillar of the community. He runs The DeSean Jackson Foundation—a charity that does everything from promote literacy and educate youth about bullying, to fighting against pancreatic cancer, a disease which claimed Jackson’s father. Furthermore, Jackson’s segment on ESPN’s “My Wish” series, wherein he invited Donovan Troy, a 10-year-old boy who had his spleen removed as a toddler and requires monthly blood transfusions, to spend the day with him at the Eagles’ training facility in Philadelphia is a total tearjerker:


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...ooper.html

I'm notbuying this BS about Jackson and his relation to gangs. I think this is more about Chip Kelly not being able to control Jackson. One reason you may not hear Jackson's teammate step out for him because they may not like him for the way he carries himself on the field and in the locker room. The only thing that smells bad hear is stereotyping.

So are you saying just because he does some good work, he is incapable of being a bad person? Can you explain his house robbery to me? Can you explain where his teammates are? Can you tell me the last guy cut loose after having a 1300 yard receiving season in the prime of his career?

Something stinks here, and it stinks bad. And in case you haven't read much, a cop was quoted in the gang stories I read.

Are you saying because he has been accused of being in a gang it is true? Philly management is what stinks.....from Riley Cooper to this.

I think it is a combination of being a difficult character in the locker room and a character risk out in the community. NFL security keeps a close eye on guys that they think are possible problems.

At this point, it looks like the only teams that are admitting interest are Oakland and the Redskins.

I've said more in this thread than I ever intended and am going to bow out of it. I know that I don't have many facts to work with.

No, an accusation is nowhere near enough... but I still think that Philly had him under contract, he had a career year just last season, and that if they are willing to let him go without getting anything for him that there must be a problem, whether it has been made public or not.

(03-30-2014 01:51 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 09:12 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 05:23 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Sometimes this board really frightens me. Is this typical of a gang-member:

Jackson is, contrary to this off-field image people have cultivated for him, a pillar of the community. He runs The DeSean Jackson Foundation—a charity that does everything from promote literacy and educate youth about bullying, to fighting against pancreatic cancer, a disease which claimed Jackson’s father. Furthermore, Jackson’s segment on ESPN’s “My Wish” series, wherein he invited Donovan Troy, a 10-year-old boy who had his spleen removed as a toddler and requires monthly blood transfusions, to spend the day with him at the Eagles’ training facility in Philadelphia is a total tearjerker:


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...ooper.html

I'm notbuying this BS about Jackson and his relation to gangs. I think this is more about Chip Kelly not being able to control Jackson. One reason you may not hear Jackson's teammate step out for him because they may not like him for the way he carries himself on the field and in the locker room. The only thing that smells bad hear is stereotyping.

So are you saying just because he does some good work, he is incapable of being a bad person? Can you explain his house robbery to me? Can you explain where his teammates are? Can you tell me the last guy cut loose after having a 1300 yard receiving season in the prime of his career?

Something stinks here, and it stinks bad. And in case you haven't read much, a cop was quoted in the gang stories I read.

Are you saying because he has been accused of being in a gang it is true? Philly management is what stinks.....from Riley Cooper to this.

No, but I am saying he associated with gang members and there is no denying that. I'm also not sure what Riley cooper and this have in common. Cooper made a stupid ass mistake and apologized to everybody. It sounds like Jackson had a lot of baggage and the eagles were done with it.

(03-30-2014 05:23 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Sometimes this board really frightens me. Is this typical of a gang-member:

Jackson is, contrary to this off-field image people have cultivated for him, a pillar of the community. He runs The DeSean Jackson Foundation—a charity that does everything from promote literacy and educate youth about bullying, to fighting against pancreatic cancer, a disease which claimed Jackson’s father. Furthermore, Jackson’s segment on ESPN’s “My Wish” series, wherein he invited Donovan Troy, a 10-year-old boy who had his spleen removed as a toddler and requires monthly blood transfusions, to spend the day with him at the Eagles’ training facility in Philadelphia is a total tearjerker:


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...ooper.html

I'm notbuying this BS about Jackson and his relation to gangs. I think this is more about Chip Kelly not being able to control Jackson. One reason you may not hear Jackson's teammate step out for him because they may not like him for the way he carries himself on the field and in the locker room. The only thing that smells bad hear is stereotyping.

I have no opinion on this situation, bc I just don't care.
However, keep in mind that all the starts in the NFL (the good, solid guys as well as the pieces of crap) pay publicists lots of $ to make them look good

I have no idea (and don't care) who he's associated with...all I'm saying is that these examples don't do anything, in my mind, to prove or disprove either side of the argument

(03-29-2014 10:11 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  A team does not just cut loose a guy that talented in the prime of his career that way.

Jackie Williams?

(03-30-2014 05:54 PM)thebernreuter Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 10:11 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  A team does not just cut loose a guy that talented in the prime of his career that way.

Jackie Williams?

jackie may be thankful if his season at UCF is successful. He is on the roster of a "power conference" member now. He may be thinking about how the Lord does indeed work in mysterious ways.

(03-29-2014 10:11 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  Let's put it this way - where are his teammates stepping out to be quoted in Jackson's defense? Where are the tweets?

A team does not just cut loose a guy that talented in the prime of his career that way. Look at his numbers last season in Chip Kelly's offense. They are not covered up with talents that will replace him either.

Add in this, the Eagles have been shopping the guy for the last several weeks and found no takers, and I think by the end of last week they would have been happy to get a 5th or 6th rounder for him.

No, nothing has been proved, but something smells bad here.

Philly management. If I am an NFL GM I would wait till he's cut since there were no takers I could get him at my price. Also kinda late but nine teams are interested maybe they thought that way too.

(03-30-2014 05:54 PM)thebernreuter Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 10:11 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  A team does not just cut loose a guy that talented in the prime of his career that way.

Jackie Williams?

A team with decent leadership.

(03-31-2014 06:18 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 05:54 PM)thebernreuter Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 10:11 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  A team does not just cut loose a guy that talented in the prime of his career that way.

Jackie Williams?

A team with decent leadership.

So McGee was decent in the leadership dept? The one who bailed out on the program and didn't bother to tell his players he was outta here?

(03-30-2014 08:38 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 05:54 PM)thebernreuter Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 10:11 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  A team does not just cut loose a guy that talented in the prime of his career that way.

Jackie Williams?

jackie may be thankful if his season at UCF is successful. He is on the roster of a "power conference" member now. He may be thinking about how the Lord does indeed work in mysterious ways.

The AAC is not a power conference. Better than CUSA but not a power conference.

Chip Kelly just simply did not get along with Jackson, the gang affiliated BS was just something to throw out there.

(03-31-2014 07:03 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 08:38 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(03-30-2014 05:54 PM)thebernreuter Wrote:  

(03-29-2014 10:11 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  A team does not just cut loose a guy that talented in the prime of his career that way.

Jackie Williams?

jackie may be thankful if his season at UCF is successful. He is on the roster of a "power conference" member now. He may be thinking about how the Lord does indeed work in mysterious ways.

The AAC is not a power conference. Better than CUSA but not a power conference.

+1

(03-31-2014 08:37 AM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  Chip Kelly just simply did not get along with Jackson, the gang affiliated BS was just something to throw out there.

BS? A cop came out and said he had ties to an accused murderer. That wasn't the Eagles. None of us know Jackson personally, or who he really is, but there is enough evidence out there at this point to prove that he, at minimum, has some association with gang members.

Imagine if we had a country where someone was innocent until proven guilty. What a world that would be.