http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/col...story.html

Quote:His plan, laid out during a recent interview, would change the process in which high school prospects are offered scholarships. College football programs are extending unofficial offers to recruits earlier and earlier, sometimes when they are still in middle school. Edsall wants to restrict offers to only seniors.
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Second, Edsall wants to transfer the ability to offer scholarships from athletic departments to the academic side. In his plan, which hasn’t yet advanced beyond the idea phase and a recent conversation with NCAA President Mark Emmert, only a school’s admissions department would be allowed to extend scholarship offers.

Each summer before prospects’ senior year of high school, college coaches would hand a list of desired recruits to the school’s admissions officers for vetting and approval. A scholarship would then be offered only if the recruit is deemed academically viable.

I like this kind of policy. It's nice to hear something rational coming out of Maryland these days.

IOW, he wants to turn all of D-I into the Ivy League.

If you were facing the prospect of trying to recruit to Maryland enough FB players to compete in the Big Ten, you might be trying to change the way Ohio State recruits, too.

(03-28-2014 09:16 AM)Wedge Wrote:  IOW, he wants to turn all of D-I into the Ivy League.

If you were facing the prospect of trying to recruit to Maryland enough FB players to compete in the Big Ten, you might be trying to change the way Ohio State recruits, too.

Not exactly. There are no athletic scholarships in the Ivy league.

http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/information/psa/index

Makes sense, especially the only offering seniors part. The stories of middle school kids getting recruited by college programs never fail to creep me out. Time to rein it in.

(03-28-2014 09:26 AM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  Makes sense, especially the only offering seniors part. The stories of middle school kids getting recruited by college programs never fail to creep me out. Time to rein it in.

This could be a logical compromise that the NCAA could take to regain some credibility with the public. It's a way of highlighting the "student" part of student-athlete.

(03-28-2014 09:25 AM)Hitch Wrote:  

(03-28-2014 09:16 AM)Wedge Wrote:  IOW, he wants to turn all of D-I into the Ivy League.

If you were facing the prospect of trying to recruit to Maryland enough FB players to compete in the Big Ten, you might be trying to change the way Ohio State recruits, too.

Not exactly. There are no athletic scholarships in the Ivy league.

http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/information/psa/index

More like the Patriot.

(03-28-2014 08:49 AM)Hitch Wrote:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/col...story.html

Quote:His plan, laid out during a recent interview, would change the process in which high school prospects are offered scholarships. College football programs are extending unofficial offers to recruits earlier and earlier, sometimes when they are still in middle school. Edsall wants to restrict offers to only seniors.
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Second, Edsall wants to transfer the ability to offer scholarships from athletic departments to the academic side. In his plan, which hasn’t yet advanced beyond the idea phase and a recent conversation with NCAA President Mark Emmert, only a school’s admissions department would be allowed to extend scholarship offers.

Each summer before prospects’ senior year of high school, college coaches would hand a list of desired recruits to the school’s admissions officers for vetting and approval. A scholarship would then be offered only if the recruit is deemed academically viable.

I agree with him. I am for it.

Makes too much sense, it won't happen. It wouldn't allow power programs to recruit illiterate players anymore.

I'm sure Miami OH has never recruited a sub par academic FB player ever, but if this happened, it wouldn't level the playing field for the Red Hawks, it would just shove them further down the food chain by limiting the pool of potential recruits and making national recruiting more important.

(03-28-2014 09:26 AM)BoiseStateOfMind Wrote:  Makes sense, especially the only offering seniors part. The stories of middle school kids getting recruited by college programs never fail to creep me out. Time to rein it in.

Its ridiculous to offer middle school students. Especially since the coach probably won't be there then. Even Sophomores is ridiculous.

But I don't know how you enforce it. Coach tells them they have an offer when they are a senior, but not to tell anyone. It does give a cover for those who want to delay the offer.

The idea is not that fool proof. The best way to solve the issues we deal with now is to allow an early signing period and restrict contact to juniors and seniors. Eliminate the courtship between 8th, 9th and 10th grade athletes. Those kids can still get evaluated through film and live game evaluations.

Open up a three week early signing period allowing upcoming Senior athletes to sign with programs the last three weeks in August. If a career ending injury were to occur during the season a medical hardship scholarship should be granted covering 5 years of education provided that the athlete has signed a binding LOI and not count against the 85 scholarship number. The athlete on the medical would be prohibited from participating in all official NCAA sponsored athletics. Limit the number of early signees to 10 and put a hard cap on the 25 scholarship limit. Eliminate over signing which is a result of purging athletes from a program.

That is a simplistic solution to a corrupt process.

And football recruiting is pristine compared to basketball recruiting - talk about a real sewer

(03-28-2014 11:57 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  And football recruiting is pristine compared to basketball recruiting - talk about a real sewer

That's part of what makes this amusing coming from Maryland. Should we look at some of the basketball players who have played there? Are they seriously going to tell us that all of them would be "deemed academically viable" by the same standards applied to non-athlete students at UMd?

(03-28-2014 12:16 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(03-28-2014 11:57 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  And football recruiting is pristine compared to basketball recruiting - talk about a real sewer

That's part of what makes this amusing coming from Maryland. Should we look at some of the basketball players who have played there? Are they seriously going to tell us that all of them would be "deemed academically viable" by the same standards applied to non-athlete students at UMd?

You'll notice that this isn't a joint proposal from the football and basketball programs. I'm surprised our lax coaches aren't co-sponsoring this though.

I have said time and again the way to get all of this "get paid" and all of the money and expenses under control is to get back to academics meaning something

the fairest way for ALL involved is to have HIGH NCAA set standards for PARTICIPATION......a university can recruit any mush mouthed future felon the wish, but if the do not meet HIGH NCAA set standards for participation they will NOT PLAY as a freshman and then they will have to pass a LARGE amount of credit hours (like 24 in a year) of MEANINGFUL core courses with a HIGH GPA (well high for an athlete like a 2.75) in those 24 hours wit no Ds or Fs counting and if they do not make that they are ineligible for the next year as well with 24 more hours needed and there goes one year of eligibility (the first year is redshirt)

a player could go on forever making 2.5s and passing 20 hours per semester for 5 years and never see the field if the university is dumb enough to do that

INCREASE DRAMATICALLY the APR and the penalties for APR perhaps the same for post season play as they are now, but start cutting more scholarships for not meeting APRs

students that leave ineligible for ANY reason be it transferring, failed out, going pro or any other reason that scholarship does not open up until their 5 years is up

so a school that has a 920 APR has post season issues, loses 3 scholarships and the 5 players that have left that year academically ineligible with 3 years remaining left to play still count to that school is losing 8 scholarships 5 of them for 3 years until those players would have graduated and then the ones for the APR issue.....cuts in NCAA payouts as well

the "get paid" types are the idiots that need the huge bling bling locker rooms with play stations and WIIs at every locker and all of the other wasteful crap that means nothing to a real STUDENT athlete

also stop allowing special athletic academic departments make those students go to the same academic help that regular students go to perhaps with dedicated time slots, but WITHOUT dedicated tutors/sex toys/home work and paper writers and have the athletic department have to kick back to the academic side for 120% of that cost (to keep the athletes from abusing it and forcing money back to the academic side from athletics and to make it where there is no chance that academics subsidizes that tutoring and regular students actually get MORE tutors because of that additional 20% charge)