john01992
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Ennis legacy at cuse
what is it?
didn't accomplish much in the tourny, spent just one year here, but we clearly haven't had a player as special as him in almost a decade.
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03-27-2014 11:12 PM |
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OrangeCrush22
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RE: Ennis legacy at cuse
(03-27-2014 11:12 PM)john01992 Wrote: what is it?
didn't accomplish much in the tourny, spent just one year here, but we clearly haven't had a player as special as him in almost a decade.
Michael Carter-Williams, flamed out against Michigan in the Final Four, but had a nice tournament otherwise - went HAM against 1 Indiana with 24 points. He led us to a Final Four and is currently tearing up the NBA, is definitely SU's best since Carmelo.
Ennis will be remembered for the shot against Pitt. That's really it. People will remember the 25-0 start as a 25-0 start, not about Ennis. It's a shame he didn't return, although I understand why he left. I think next year will be special with McCullough and it will contribute to Ennis' legacy not being so great.
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03-28-2014 12:24 AM |
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john01992
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RE: Ennis legacy at cuse
(03-28-2014 12:24 AM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: (03-27-2014 11:12 PM)john01992 Wrote: what is it?
didn't accomplish much in the tourny, spent just one year here, but we clearly haven't had a player as special as him in almost a decade.
Michael Carter-Williams, flamed out against Michigan in the Final Four, but had a nice tournament otherwise - went HAM against 1 Indiana with 24 points. He led us to a Final Four and is currently tearing up the NBA, is definitely SU's best since Carmelo.
Ennis will be remembered for the shot against Pitt. That's really it. People will remember the 25-0 start as a 25-0 start, not about Ennis. It's a shame he didn't return, although I understand why he left. I think next year will be special with McCullough and it will contribute to Ennis' legacy not being so great.
he better not pull a melo or southerland if ya know what i mean
i was really looking forward to the Roberson/Richardson/McCullough combo.
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03-28-2014 12:46 AM |
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RE: Ennis legacy at cuse
I am happy for him but hate it for us. We have not had a ton of one and done over the years and it lets us see players grow and develop. It feels like we hardly got to know him and because we flamed out in the tournament his legacy will be non-existent beyond the shot at Pitt.
College basketball isn't what it used to be.
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03-28-2014 09:23 AM |
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Dr. Isaly von Yinzer
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RE: Ennis legacy at cuse
I've been talking about this phenomenon all season. The problem with college basketball is not that the NCAA Tournament renders the conference tournaments and regular season meaningless. The problem is that most of the stars leave before you really get to embrace them as either a hero or a villain.
You don't think that would have been fun next year when Syracuse comes to the Pete to play Pitt? That would have been AWESOME. Now, it will just be another footnote.
I miss the days when you could really embrace guys like Ewing and Laettner and Reddick as legitimate villains to be scorned. Nowadays, those guys are all gone after a year or two at the most.
That's not to mention that the basketball itself is worse than it was in those days. Because there are so many young players playing pivotal roles on their teams, the mistakes are many and the fundamentals almost always lacking. There's less flow to the game, guys shoot the ball much worse than they once did and there's less defensive structure. It's just a lesser game all the way around.
I strongly support Larry Scott's idea whereby guys are eligible straight out of HS and not again until after they turn 21 years-old. That's like the baseball and football models and I think that would have an ENORMOUSLY positive impact on college basketball and pro basketball too, as they will be getting more polished products.
The only problem with that proposal is I'm not sure the NBA would agree to that in the first place. Also, I'm sure that some would be pro basketball prospect would challenge that rule in court and I'm told by may attorney friends that such a challenge would stand an excellent chance of succeeding. However, if the colleges could prevail, it would make college basketball SO much better and its popularity would soar to new heights.
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03-28-2014 09:48 AM |
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RE: Ennis legacy at cuse
(03-28-2014 12:46 AM)john01992 Wrote: (03-28-2014 12:24 AM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: (03-27-2014 11:12 PM)john01992 Wrote: what is it?
didn't accomplish much in the tourny, spent just one year here, but we clearly haven't had a player as special as him in almost a decade.
Michael Carter-Williams, flamed out against Michigan in the Final Four, but had a nice tournament otherwise - went HAM against 1 Indiana with 24 points. He led us to a Final Four and is currently tearing up the NBA, is definitely SU's best since Carmelo.
Ennis will be remembered for the shot against Pitt. That's really it. People will remember the 25-0 start as a 25-0 start, not about Ennis. It's a shame he didn't return, although I understand why he left. I think next year will be special with McCullough and it will contribute to Ennis' legacy not being so great.
he better not pull a melo or southerland if ya know what i mean
i was really looking forward to the Roberson/Richardson/McCullough combo.
Who is Richardson, and what is "pulling a southerland"?
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03-28-2014 01:33 PM |
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john01992
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RE: Ennis legacy at cuse
(03-28-2014 01:33 PM)ken d Wrote: (03-28-2014 12:46 AM)john01992 Wrote: (03-28-2014 12:24 AM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: (03-27-2014 11:12 PM)john01992 Wrote: what is it?
didn't accomplish much in the tourny, spent just one year here, but we clearly haven't had a player as special as him in almost a decade.
Michael Carter-Williams, flamed out against Michigan in the Final Four, but had a nice tournament otherwise - went HAM against 1 Indiana with 24 points. He led us to a Final Four and is currently tearing up the NBA, is definitely SU's best since Carmelo.
Ennis will be remembered for the shot against Pitt. That's really it. People will remember the 25-0 start as a 25-0 start, not about Ennis. It's a shame he didn't return, although I understand why he left. I think next year will be special with McCullough and it will contribute to Ennis' legacy not being so great.
he better not pull a melo or southerland if ya know what i mean
i was really looking forward to the Roberson/Richardson/McCullough combo.
Who is Richardson, and what is "pulling a southerland"?
fab melo & james southerland have both been academically ineligible within the past 2 years. our top commit for next year (McCullough) was kicked out of a prep school for something that was most likely academic's related
richardson = Malachi Richardson #10 ranked recruit for 2015, committed to syracuse.
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03-28-2014 05:29 PM |
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ken d
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RE: Ennis legacy at cuse
(03-28-2014 05:29 PM)john01992 Wrote: (03-28-2014 01:33 PM)ken d Wrote: (03-28-2014 12:46 AM)john01992 Wrote: (03-28-2014 12:24 AM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: (03-27-2014 11:12 PM)john01992 Wrote: what is it?
didn't accomplish much in the tourny, spent just one year here, but we clearly haven't had a player as special as him in almost a decade.
Michael Carter-Williams, flamed out against Michigan in the Final Four, but had a nice tournament otherwise - went HAM against 1 Indiana with 24 points. He led us to a Final Four and is currently tearing up the NBA, is definitely SU's best since Carmelo.
Ennis will be remembered for the shot against Pitt. That's really it. People will remember the 25-0 start as a 25-0 start, not about Ennis. It's a shame he didn't return, although I understand why he left. I think next year will be special with McCullough and it will contribute to Ennis' legacy not being so great.
he better not pull a melo or southerland if ya know what i mean
i was really looking forward to the Roberson/Richardson/McCullough combo.
Who is Richardson, and what is "pulling a southerland"?
fab melo & james southerland have both been academically ineligible within the past 2 years. our top commit for next year (McCullough) was kicked out of a prep school for something that was most likely academic's related
richardson = Malachi Richardson #10 ranked recruit for 2015, committed to syracuse.
Got it. I've learned (slowly) not to get too invested in who will play with whom down the road until the draft is over and recruits are actually enrolled.
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03-28-2014 05:36 PM |
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RE: Ennis legacy at cuse
He has no legacy, he'll be just a memory. He spent one year at Syracuse and we didn't do very well in the NCAA tournament. I don't think that qualifies for a legacy.
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03-30-2014 09:29 AM |
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RE: Ennis legacy at cuse
(03-30-2014 09:29 AM)texasorange Wrote: He has no legacy, he'll be just a memory. He spent one year at Syracuse and we didn't do very well in the NCAA tournament. I don't think that qualifies for a legacy.
This...just another Donte Green.
I hope he figures out how to develop in the D League.
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03-30-2014 08:30 PM |
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RE: Ennis legacy at cuse
(03-30-2014 08:30 PM)TexanMark Wrote: (03-30-2014 09:29 AM)texasorange Wrote: He has no legacy, he'll be just a memory. He spent one year at Syracuse and we didn't do very well in the NCAA tournament. I don't think that qualifies for a legacy.
This...just another Donte Green.
I hope he figures out how to develop in the D League.
I hope he's not another Fab Melo! Sheesh!
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03-31-2014 08:03 AM |
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