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"Student Athletes" are really "Employee Athletes" with a right to unionize
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03-26-2014 04:07 PM
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RE: "Student Athletes" are really "Employee Athletes" with a right to unionize
I saw on twitter from a sports guy that this only counts for scholarship athletes of private universities.
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(03-26-2014 04:13 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  I saw on twitter from a sports guy that this only counts for scholarship athletes of private universities.

It applies to scholarship athletes, yes. I see no limit to only private schools. None.
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Yeah this doesn't really do very much. It's only for private universities. NW will appeal and the case will be in the court system for years. It didn't shutdown the player union movement but there's a long way to go before anyone recognizes them as employees.
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(03-26-2014 04:20 PM)chihuskie Wrote:  It applies to scholarship athletes, yes. I see no limit to only private schools. None.

The federal labor agency can't regulate public universities
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There is no logical reason why this would be limited to private schools. Everything that NU does is typical of every university, private or public. The order is specific to NU, correct. But the precedent is set for employee athletes at other schools to unionize as well. It establishes their right to do so. Whether they choose to do so is up to them.
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True. However, again, there are state equivalents to the NLRB, and the logic is sound and although not directly applicable, it is hard to fathom how it will not be found to be persuasive. (OK, also note it won't apply in any state such as Wisc where they have abolished a public employees right to unionize.)
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At some point it might apply to some public universities, but what the NW players are doing is strictly relative to a private university. The federal labor agency cannot regulate how public universities treat their student athletes. It'll be years before any of this is sorted out though.
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It only applies to private universities and it's being appealed.

If this ruling is upheld I think you'll see the anti union states' (Wisconsin, Alabama, Texas) labor boards find very quickly that their schools' football players are employees too so they can get paid. One thing Alabama hates more than unions and "that feller goes by Barack HOOSAIN" is losing recruits to Vanderbilt.
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(03-26-2014 05:08 PM)Max Power Wrote:  It only applies to private universities and it's being appealed.

If this ruling is upheld I think you'll see the anti union states' (Wisconsin, Alabama, Texas) labor boards find very quickly that their schools' football players are employees too so they can get paid. One thing Alabama hates more than unions and "that feller goes by Barack HOOSAIN" is losing recruits to Vanderbilt.

This ruling may quite have the opposite effect. Just wait until all of these player employees start receiving W2's or 1099's. A Northwestern education with room/board and athlete perks is very expensive and would probably put them into a minimum 25% tax bracket.
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You beat me to it. Great you are now an employee. Start paying your fair share of taxes as our liberal friends would state. Anything you get now is considered compensation and taxable by definition. Good luck with that boys.
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This will take years to come full circle. The ruling and the ramifications of title 9 are going to be interesting. It could be the death of D1 football at NIU and MAC schools. NIU does not have the money to "pay" athletes.

We are only at the beginning stages of this issue.
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Hopefully this is the spark that ends B1G Money college football. Colleges will play sports with Divison III rules. Pro football can set up their own semi-pro farm teams with the BiG money. Very few college teams can afford to keep playing in the arms race. Thank B!G money, TV, & greed.
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(03-27-2014 08:36 AM)DoubleHuskie84 Wrote:  Hopefully this is the spark that ends B1G Money college football. Colleges will play sports with Divison III rules. Pro football can set up their own semi-pro farm teams with the BiG money. Very few college teams can afford to keep playing in the arms race. Thank B!G money, TV, & greed.

It's just a matter of time before big-money football overdoes itself with greed. This may be the beginning though started by players instead of schools, setting in motion events that will quickly get out of control and destroy college sports.
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(03-26-2014 04:20 PM)chihuskie Wrote:  
(03-26-2014 04:13 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  I saw on twitter from a sports guy that this only counts for scholarship athletes of private universities.

It applies to scholarship athletes, yes. I see no limit to only private schools. None.

Yea, it seems like it would be impossible to argue it would only apply to private universities.
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NLRB has no authority over state schools, so yesterday's ruling only applies to private institutions.
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At the end of all of this, the solution will probably be 100% full scholarships, a small stipend like $2k a month and players having their rights to their names so they can get endorsements etc
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(03-27-2014 09:21 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  NLRB has no authority over state schools, so yesterday's ruling only applies to private institutions.

That's true for yesterday's ruling. But if students at a public university did the same thing, it would be tough to argue that they are not employees also.
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If this goes through for all schools, I can see our ticket prices jumping almost to the level of pro sports tickets.
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