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Northwestern football allowed to unionize
Northwestern players get union vote
Updated: March 26, 2014, 4:24 PM ET
By Brian Bennett | ESPN.com

In a potentially game-changing moment for college athletics, the Chicago district of the National Labor Relations Board ruled on Wednesday that Northwestern football players qualify as employees of the university and can unionize.

NLRB regional director Peter Sung Ohr cited the players' time commitment to their sport and the fact that their scholarships were tied directly to their performance as reasons for granting them union rights.

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Colter Former quarterback Kain Colter led the drive to have Northwestern players vote on whether to unionize. Read the ruling that gave them that right. Ruling PDF
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Ohr wrote in his ruling that the players "fall squarely within the [National Labor Relations] Act's broad definition of 'employee' when one considers the common law definition of 'employee.'"

Ohr ruled that the players can hold a vote on whether they want to be represented by the College Athletes Players Association, which brought the case to the NLRB along with former Wildcats quarterback Kain Colter and the United Steelworkers union.

"I couldn't be more happy and grateful for today's ruling, though it is the ruling we expected," said Ramogi Huma, president of both the National College Players Assn, a nonprofit advocacy group that has been around since 2001, and the College Athletes Players Association, the union that would represent the players and was formed in January.

"I just have so much respect for Kain and the football players who stood up in unity to take this on. They love their university but they think it's important to exercise rights under labor law.

"The NCAA invented the term student athlete to prevent the exact ruling that was made today. For 60 years, people have bought into their notion that they are students only. The reality is, players are employees and today's ruling confirms that. The players are one giant step closer to justice."

Northwestern issued a statement shortly after the ruling saying it would appeal to the full NLRB in Washington, D.C.

"While we respect the NLRB process and the regional director's opinion, we disagree with it," the statement read. "Northwestern believes strongly that our student-athletes are not employees, but students. Unionization and collective bargaining are not the appropriate methods to address the concerns raised by student-athletes."

CAPA supporters, meanwhile, celebrated the news. Colter tweeted: "This is a HUGE win for ALL college athletes!"

"Amazing victory for college athletes," said Tim Waters, national political director for United Steelworkers. "USW has said all along that these athletes are in fact employees and now the NLRB has agreed. Athletes have tried every way possible to get a seat at the table and this was the only avenue they were left with. We expect the ruling will withstand any appeal."

Colter, whose eligibility has been exhausted and who has entered the NFL draft, said nearly all of the 85 scholarship players on the Wildcats roster backed the union bid, though only he expressed his support publicly. The United Steelworkers union has been footing the legal bills.

CAPA attorneys argued that college football is, for all practical purposes, a commercial enterprise that relies on players' labor to generate billions of dollars in profits. That, they contend, makes the relationship of schools to players one of employers to employees.

In its endeavor to have college football players be recognized as essential workers, CAPA likened scholarships to employment pay -- too little pay from its point of view. Northwestern balked at that claim, describing scholarship as grants.

Giving college athletes employee status and allowing them to unionize, critics have argued, could hurt college sports in numerous ways -- including by raising the prospects of strikes by disgruntled players or lockouts by athletic departments.

The NCAA has been under increasing scrutiny over its amateurism rules and is fighting a class-action federal lawsuit by former players seeking a cut of the billions of dollars earned from live broadcasts, memorabilia sales and video games. Other lawsuits allege that the NCAA failed to protect players from debilitating head injuries.

NCAA President Mark Emmert has pushed for a $2,000-per-player stipend to help athletes defray some of their expenses. Critics say that isn't nearly enough, considering that players help bring in millions of dollars to their schools and conferences.

CAPA's specific goals include guaranteeing coverage of sports-related medical expenses for current and former players, ensuring better procedures to reduce head injuries and potentially letting players pursue commercial sponsorships.

For now, the push is to unionize athletes at private schools, such as Northwestern, because the federal labor agency does not have jurisdiction over public universities.

During the NLRB's five days of hearings in February, Wildcats coach Pat Fitzgerald took the stand for union opponents, and his testimony sometimes was at odds with Colter's.

Colter told the hearing that players' performance on the field was more important to Northwestern than their in-class performance, saying, "You fulfill the football requirement and, if you can, you fit in academics." Asked why Northwestern gave him a scholarship of $75,000 a year, he responded: "To play football. To perform an athletic service."

But Fitzgerald said he tells players academics come first, saying, "We want them to be the best they can be ... to be a champion in life."

An attorney representing the university, Alex Barbour, noted Northwestern has one of the highest graduation rates for college football players in the nation, around 97 percent. Barbour insisted, "Northwestern is not a football factory."
03-26-2014 03:48 PM
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So this is the beginning of the end for the NCAA.
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This will be tied up in court for years. Nothing to get excited about.
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Makes you wonder if the Big Ten saw this coming and realized that it would have to replace Northwestern.

Two State Senators Want To Add Another Illinois College To Big Ten Conference

Losing UMass may actually have an adverse effect if the MAC drops down to 11.
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(03-26-2014 07:41 PM)TARDledo Wrote:  Makes you wonder if the Big Ten saw this coming and realized that it would have to replace Northwestern.

Two State Senators Want To Add Another Illinois College To Big Ten Conference

Losing UMass may actually have an adverse effect if the MAC drops down to 11.

Is this a joke?
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(03-26-2014 09:49 PM)T4C8 Wrote:  
(03-26-2014 07:41 PM)TARDledo Wrote:  Makes you wonder if the Big Ten saw this coming and realized that it would have to replace Northwestern.

Two State Senators Want To Add Another Illinois College To Big Ten Conference

Losing UMass may actually have an adverse effect if the MAC drops down to 11.

Is this a joke?

Not as much as this:
https://www.facebook.com/NIUToTheBig12
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(03-26-2014 07:32 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  This will be tied up in court for years. Nothing to get excited about.

No it won't... If there is one thing which gets quickly adjudicated quickly it is unionization issues... I give this a year or two tops.
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(03-26-2014 07:41 PM)TARDledo Wrote:  Makes you wonder if the Big Ten saw this coming and realized that it would have to replace Northwestern.

Two State Senators Want To Add Another Illinois College To Big Ten Conference

Losing UMass may actually have an adverse effect if the MAC drops down to 11.

Illinois might have zero Big 10 schools if this spreads to public universities.
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I thought this was an informative piece

http://www.psmag.com/navigation/politics...now-77616/
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Editorial cartoons like this try to perpetuate this idea that college athletics is a gold mine for all. Yet, only 22 FBS athletic departments are making any money (I found this info to be a few years old, but I imagine it's still roughly the same now). The rest of us in FBS are in the red. Not one FCS athletic department operated in the black.

Tens of thousands of dollars worth of education and never worrying about a student loan, not to mention having that outside shot at making 1%-er "pro money" upon draft or graduation that is unheard of among non-athlete students, would seem like sufficient compensation.

But I do think that players oughta be permitted to profit off their own image from t-shirts, jerseys, autographs, etc., and being able to promote themselves as such.
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Motown Bronco ' Wrote:  But I do think that players oughta be permitted to profit off their own image from t-shirts, jerseys, autographs, etc., and being able to promote themselves as such.

Seems like a reasonable idea on the surface, but as soon as that is allowed, you've just opened the door for boosters to tell recruits "We could sure use a big ole tackle like you--I can just about promise you they will sell about 100 of your jerseys every month nudge nudge wink wink. ".

Make it legal for players to profit from their status as athletes, and the money will get funneled in from places you don't want to open the doors to. They might as well just pay them a salary upfront.


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(03-29-2014 09:31 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Editorial cartoons like this try to perpetuate this idea that college athletics is a gold mine for all. Yet, only 22 FBS athletic departments are making any money (I found this info to be a few years old, but I imagine it's still roughly the same now). The rest of us in FBS are in the red. Not one FCS athletic department operated in the black.

Tens of thousands of dollars worth of education and never worrying about a student loan, not to mention having that outside shot at making 1%-er "pro money" upon draft or graduation that is unheard of among non-athlete students, would seem like sufficient compensation.

But I do think that players oughta be permitted to profit off their own image from t-shirts, jerseys, autographs, etc., and being able to promote themselves as such.

I agree with you on several points. Foremost is the idea that all college athletics departments operate in the black. Most, as you point out, must be subsidized to stay afloat. And yes, student athletes receive compensation in form of a scholarship. Kain Kolter used this argument to support his vital point that scholarship athletes are not students, they are employees. He submitted his scholarship documents that stated his ride was worth $75,000 a year paid in return for his athletic services.

The claim that the NU players brought forward, and have at least initially won, is not first and foremost about payment for jerseys, likenesses, etc. It is their claim that they are not students but university employees. They are given a job description, sign an agreement to adhere to certain rules to keep their job, and given a schedule. If they do not perform according to expectations, their “boss” ( coach), can “fire" them at the end of the year. One of Kolter’s initial motivations was that he was told that he could major in anything at Northwestern. He selected pre med. Because his schedule mandated that he could not take classes before 11:00 AM, he could not get in his pre med requirements. He claimed that he was not a student who could take any major he wanted, he was a paid employee who was told he could take any classes he wanted that did not interfere with his job.

This is all going to get very interesting. If the NU players prevail at the NLRB level (which is politically fairly liberal), they already have enough signed cards to take a vote. NU is not going to want a union, so will offer concessions to not organize. There is already some talk about offering 5 year, no cut scholarships so that student athletes have an extra year after 4 year eligibility is exhausted to make up degree requirements. And talk of a lifelong insurance subsidy, sort of like a funded HSA, so players can receive treatment for injuries sustained while playing. It’s the concessions to avoid organizing that will open Pandora’s box.

Which brings us full circle to your first point. The few schools in the black can not only manage through this, but will get a competitive advantage. The rest of us in the red will have some very tough choices.
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(03-29-2014 11:05 AM)axeme Wrote:  
Motown Bronco ' Wrote:  But I do think that players oughta be permitted to profit off their own image from t-shirts, jerseys, autographs, etc., and being able to promote themselves as such.

Seems like a reasonable idea on the surface, but as soon as that is allowed, you've just opened the door for boosters to tell recruits "We could sure use a big ole tackle like you--I can just about promise you they will sell about 100 of your jerseys every month nudge nudge wink wink. ".

Make it legal for players to profit from their status as athletes, and the money will get funneled in from places you don't want to open the doors to. They might as well just pay them a salary upfront.


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The best, but not realistic, solution is to give the players a right to play for money in the offseason (semi-pro leagues)
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I played football at WMU in the early 90's and money was never an issue for me or my teammates. We got about 3 grand to live for 4 months and the players who came from poor backgrounds got Pell grants that doubled their scholy check. We could work all summer in jobs we got through the school or boosters and could easily live off that money. I had no student loans when I graduated and I went to school for 6 years because I changed majors 3 years in and they had dumb pre req rules that made it difficult. The NCAA picked up my 6th year with a completion grant with scholy check not just tuition and books.

If they get some of these deals like health coverage after your done playing I want it retroactive. I have had atleast a 100 grand or more of medical bills which most of it was covered by my employers but still thousands in out of pocket. All of my injuries were from my playing days and are chronic(back).
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They should just bring back the 1980's and offer two cars and a doublewide for mom and granny to every student athlete. That was how the Southwest Conference did it.
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