Ramen_Tiger
Banned
Posts: 5,382
Joined: May 2013
I Root For: Memphis
Location:
|
Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
Or is this sweet 16 run just a fluke?
|
|
03-26-2014 09:34 AM |
|
ncrdbl1
Legend
Posts: 27,208
Joined: Nov 2005
Reputation: 481
I Root For: Memphis Tigers
Location: Horn Lake
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
(03-26-2014 09:34 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: Or is this sweet 16 run just a fluke?
Been discussed several times. He fell into a sweet 16 spot due to seeding and the way the brackets worked out. Beat two bubble teams which would not have made it if they were not major conference schools. Then a team which won because the high seed felt they could look past them and thrown up 3s all day.
|
|
03-26-2014 09:38 AM |
|
salukiblue
Liaison to the Dummies
Posts: 31,099
Joined: Aug 2004
Reputation: 1292
I Root For: Space Mountain
Location: Tennessee
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
He is a good coach. He did a fine job at a crap school. His talent level at UTk hasn't been off the charts, though this year's team had the best talent he has had. The season ending injury to their 5 star recruit hurt, but they recovered.
Now recruiting is another story...
|
|
03-26-2014 09:49 AM |
|
MemphisCanes
Hall of Famer
Posts: 22,048
Joined: Dec 2007
Reputation: 415
I Root For: THE Tigers
Location: Knoxville, TN
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
Yet to be seen, I think. He's winning with Pearl's talent, and he was left a plethora of 4 stars when he took over. Next year he'll have all his own players, and we'll see whether his recruiting has been finding diamonds in the rough, or what.
|
|
03-26-2014 10:29 AM |
|
FORealTigerFan
Say What?
Posts: 4,109
Joined: Nov 2005
Reputation: 130
I Root For: Beer
Location: Olive Branch, MS
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
Was listening to the radio this morning and they were discussing him and his contract. They said that a ton of fans had signed a petition to have him removed before the tournament run happened. He was most likely out the door without that run to the sweet sixteen. The general thought from the people at UT is he gets maybe a one year extension now if he doesn't go any further.
|
|
03-26-2014 11:20 AM |
|
MemphisTiger15
Banned
Posts: 12,445
Joined: Aug 2007
I Root For: an AAC 'ship
Location:
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
Andy Kennedy 2.0
- about to be fired...... check
- team got hot at the right time...... check
- fans get excited...... check
- gets an extension..... ????
- back to running the program in the ground......
|
|
03-26-2014 11:32 AM |
|
UofM_Tiger
1st String
Posts: 1,996
Joined: Apr 2007
Reputation: 73
I Root For: Tigers
Location: Memphis
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
(03-26-2014 09:34 AM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: Or is this sweet 16 run just a fluke?
Mercer did the heavy lifting for them so far. We'll see how they do against Michigan.
|
|
03-26-2014 12:05 PM |
|
salukiblue
Liaison to the Dummies
Posts: 31,099
Joined: Aug 2004
Reputation: 1292
I Root For: Space Mountain
Location: Tennessee
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
(03-26-2014 11:32 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: Andy Kennedy 2.0
- about to be fired...... check
- team got hot at the right time...... check
- fans get excited...... check
- gets an extension..... ????
- back to running the program in the ground......
Huh?
Ole Miss lost a bit and will be returning 6 of top 7 scorers and rebounders. Getting Henderson out of there is likely addition by subtraction. Briniging is a solid Memphis player (from Hamilton) Marcanvis Hymon.
|
|
03-26-2014 02:33 PM |
|
MemphisTiger15
Banned
Posts: 12,445
Joined: Aug 2007
I Root For: an AAC 'ship
Location:
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
AK has made the NCAAs a grand total of 1 time at Ole Miss in 7 or 8 years. Bringing back 7 players from a team that wasn't even NIT good isn't necessarily a great thing.
|
|
03-26-2014 02:45 PM |
|
salukiblue
Liaison to the Dummies
Posts: 31,099
Joined: Aug 2004
Reputation: 1292
I Root For: Space Mountain
Location: Tennessee
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
(03-26-2014 02:45 PM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: AK has made the NCAAs a grand total of 1 time at Ole Miss in 7 or 8 years. Bringing back 7 players from a team that wasn't even NIT good isn't necessarily a great thing.
As noted many times before, OM bball is like Memphis football. A three year New Orleans bowl run is great, and AK taking a traditionally horrible program to an NCAA is pretty good.
Time will tell.
|
|
03-26-2014 02:58 PM |
|
MemphisCanes
Hall of Famer
Posts: 22,048
Joined: Dec 2007
Reputation: 415
I Root For: THE Tigers
Location: Knoxville, TN
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
(03-26-2014 02:33 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (03-26-2014 11:32 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: Andy Kennedy 2.0
- about to be fired...... check
- team got hot at the right time...... check
- fans get excited...... check
- gets an extension..... ????
- back to running the program in the ground......
Huh?
Ole Miss lost a bit and will be returning 6 of top 7 scorers and rebounders. Getting Henderson out of there is likely addition by subtraction. Briniging is a solid Memphis player (from Hamilton) Marcanvis Hymon.
I don't see how losing the best scorer they've had in years will improve the team.
|
|
03-26-2014 03:30 PM |
|
Stammers
Legend
Posts: 38,187
Joined: Feb 2004
Reputation: 1739
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Montreal, Canada
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
(03-26-2014 02:33 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (03-26-2014 11:32 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: Andy Kennedy 2.0
- about to be fired...... check
- team got hot at the right time...... check
- fans get excited...... check
- gets an extension..... ????
- back to running the program in the ground......
Huh?
Ole Miss lost a bit and will be returning 6 of top 7 scorers and rebounders. Getting Henderson out of there is likely addition by subtraction. Briniging is a solid Memphis player (from Hamilton) Marcanvis Hymon.
Now you are defending Andy Kennedy? Wow.
|
|
03-26-2014 03:34 PM |
|
salukiblue
Liaison to the Dummies
Posts: 31,099
Joined: Aug 2004
Reputation: 1292
I Root For: Space Mountain
Location: Tennessee
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
(03-26-2014 03:34 PM)Stammers Wrote: (03-26-2014 02:33 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (03-26-2014 11:32 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: Andy Kennedy 2.0
- about to be fired...... check
- team got hot at the right time...... check
- fans get excited...... check
- gets an extension..... ????
- back to running the program in the ground......
Huh?
Ole Miss lost a bit and will be returning 6 of top 7 scorers and rebounders. Getting Henderson out of there is likely addition by subtraction. Briniging is a solid Memphis player (from Hamilton) Marcanvis Hymon.
Now you are defending Andy Kennedy? Wow.
People are not allowed to believe that anyone not wearing a Memphis uniform can be good at something?
Just go away.
(This post was last modified: 03-26-2014 03:53 PM by salukiblue.)
|
|
03-26-2014 03:46 PM |
|
salukiblue
Liaison to the Dummies
Posts: 31,099
Joined: Aug 2004
Reputation: 1292
I Root For: Space Mountain
Location: Tennessee
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
(03-26-2014 03:30 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (03-26-2014 02:33 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (03-26-2014 11:32 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: Andy Kennedy 2.0
- about to be fired...... check
- team got hot at the right time...... check
- fans get excited...... check
- gets an extension..... ????
- back to running the program in the ground......
Huh?
Ole Miss lost a bit and will be returning 6 of top 7 scorers and rebounders. Getting Henderson out of there is likely addition by subtraction. Briniging is a solid Memphis player (from Hamilton) Marcanvis Hymon.
I don't see how losing the best scorer they've had in years will improve the team.
Their "best" scorer was Jarvis Summers. 17 ppg. 42% from three as opposed to the black hole known as Henderson: 19 ppg on 35% fg and 34% 3pt shooting.
|
|
03-26-2014 03:48 PM |
|
MemphisCanes
Hall of Famer
Posts: 22,048
Joined: Dec 2007
Reputation: 415
I Root For: THE Tigers
Location: Knoxville, TN
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
(03-26-2014 03:48 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (03-26-2014 03:30 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (03-26-2014 02:33 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (03-26-2014 11:32 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: Andy Kennedy 2.0
- about to be fired...... check
- team got hot at the right time...... check
- fans get excited...... check
- gets an extension..... ????
- back to running the program in the ground......
Huh?
Ole Miss lost a bit and will be returning 6 of top 7 scorers and rebounders. Getting Henderson out of there is likely addition by subtraction. Briniging is a solid Memphis player (from Hamilton) Marcanvis Hymon.
I don't see how losing the best scorer they've had in years will improve the team.
Their "best" scorer was Jarvis Summers. 17 ppg. 42% from three as opposed to the black hole known as Henderson: 19 ppg on 35% fg and 34% 3pt shooting.
But doesn't 19 > 17 tho?
|
|
03-26-2014 04:02 PM |
|
salukiblue
Liaison to the Dummies
Posts: 31,099
Joined: Aug 2004
Reputation: 1292
I Root For: Space Mountain
Location: Tennessee
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
(03-26-2014 04:02 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (03-26-2014 03:48 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (03-26-2014 03:30 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (03-26-2014 02:33 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (03-26-2014 11:32 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: Andy Kennedy 2.0
- about to be fired...... check
- team got hot at the right time...... check
- fans get excited...... check
- gets an extension..... ????
- back to running the program in the ground......
Huh?
Ole Miss lost a bit and will be returning 6 of top 7 scorers and rebounders. Getting Henderson out of there is likely addition by subtraction. Briniging is a solid Memphis player (from Hamilton) Marcanvis Hymon.
I don't see how losing the best scorer they've had in years will improve the team.
Their "best" scorer was Jarvis Summers. 17 ppg. 42% from three as opposed to the black hole known as Henderson: 19 ppg on 35% fg and 34% 3pt shooting.
But doesn't 19 > 17 tho?
"Best" is not the same as "most prolific."
(This post was last modified: 03-26-2014 04:18 PM by salukiblue.)
|
|
03-26-2014 04:17 PM |
|
EarthBoundMisfit
Tongue tied and twisted
Posts: 16,838
Joined: May 2005
Reputation: 1221
I Root For: CardiacAblation
Location: Madisonville,KY
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
I have said Cuonzo is a decent coach before and got bashed pretty good for it.
People will say UT got a lucky draw Mercer wasn't supposed to beat Duke...but they did. That is why they play the games on the court instead of on paper.
Maybe it WAS a lucky draw...but luck is when preparation meets opportunity.
This is Cuonzo's best team that he has had...and he will lose some players heading into next season.
Some coaches catch lightning in a bottle when they get hired at a school.
Tommy West captured lightning in a bottle when he had Danny Wimprine, DeAngelo Williams...and a offensive coordinator named Randy Fichtner.
When those folks left...his fortunes seriously declined.
I think the same will happen with Cuonzo. He hasn't shown the flashiness or recruiting prowess overall to prove that he can sustain that level of success in my mind.
That said...I HOPE he stays. Memphis could use a few more wins over the Vols in basketball.
|
|
03-26-2014 05:43 PM |
|
MemphisCanes
Hall of Famer
Posts: 22,048
Joined: Dec 2007
Reputation: 415
I Root For: THE Tigers
Location: Knoxville, TN
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
(03-26-2014 04:17 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (03-26-2014 04:02 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (03-26-2014 03:48 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (03-26-2014 03:30 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (03-26-2014 02:33 PM)salukiblue Wrote: Huh?
Ole Miss lost a bit and will be returning 6 of top 7 scorers and rebounders. Getting Henderson out of there is likely addition by subtraction. Briniging is a solid Memphis player (from Hamilton) Marcanvis Hymon.
I don't see how losing the best scorer they've had in years will improve the team.
Their "best" scorer was Jarvis Summers. 17 ppg. 42% from three as opposed to the black hole known as Henderson: 19 ppg on 35% fg and 34% 3pt shooting.
But doesn't 19 > 17 tho?
"Best" is not the same as "most prolific."
That's fine lawyerin', even I must admit.
|
|
03-26-2014 06:40 PM |
|
NigelTufnel
Spelling Bee Champiun
Posts: 8,129
Joined: Feb 2006
Reputation: 388
I Root For: Ribs and Beer!
Location: Raleigh, NC
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
(03-26-2014 06:40 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (03-26-2014 04:17 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (03-26-2014 04:02 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (03-26-2014 03:48 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (03-26-2014 03:30 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: I don't see how losing the best scorer they've had in years will improve the team.
Their "best" scorer was Jarvis Summers. 17 ppg. 42% from three as opposed to the black hole known as Henderson: 19 ppg on 35% fg and 34% 3pt shooting.
But doesn't 19 > 17 tho?
"Best" is not the same as "most prolific."
That's fine lawyerin', even I must admit.
Come on, have you seen Henderson play? For every game he wins you when he's hot, he loses 3 by being a black hole and team cancer.
Henderson shot 0.52 shots per minute, I haven't checked, but I'm certain that has to be towards the top of the NCAA. Which would be fine if you shot close to 50% from the field, but Marshall Mathers, I mean Henderson, shot 35%.
There is such a thing as addition by subtraction.
|
|
03-26-2014 07:39 PM |
|
MemphisCanes
Hall of Famer
Posts: 22,048
Joined: Dec 2007
Reputation: 415
I Root For: THE Tigers
Location: Knoxville, TN
|
RE: Is Cuonzo Martin a good coach
(03-26-2014 07:39 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote: (03-26-2014 06:40 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (03-26-2014 04:17 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (03-26-2014 04:02 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote: (03-26-2014 03:48 PM)salukiblue Wrote: Their "best" scorer was Jarvis Summers. 17 ppg. 42% from three as opposed to the black hole known as Henderson: 19 ppg on 35% fg and 34% 3pt shooting.
But doesn't 19 > 17 tho?
"Best" is not the same as "most prolific."
That's fine lawyerin', even I must admit.
Come on, have you seen Henderson play? For every game he wins you when he's hot, he loses 3 by being a black hole and team cancer.
Henderson shot 0.52 shots per minute, I haven't checked, but I'm certain that has to be towards the top of the NCAA. Which would be fine if you shot close to 50% from the field, but Marshall Mathers, I mean Henderson, shot 35%.
There is such a thing as addition by subtraction.
Henderson's FG% was crap because he shot so many threes. His TS% is perfectly fine (50%+), especially for someone who took so many shots. So that point is sort of shot.
Frankly, that Ole Miss team needs someone who can fill it up. SO many new players and defenders, they need someone to shoot the ball. I've never heard anything about him being a cancer. As far as I know, his teammates love him and he's a good guy to play with.
(This post was last modified: 03-26-2014 09:11 PM by MemphisCanes.)
|
|
03-26-2014 09:10 PM |
|