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http://www.csnbbs.com/thread-682188-post...id10584406

I saw that yesterday. My daughter had a similar type math problem (second grade) and was showing me how her teacher told her to solve the problem. I showed her the old school way and she was like, "Dad, that is soooooooooo much easier." Just hope the teacher doesn't penalize her for solving the problem differently than she was told. I guess getting the right answer isn't really the point anymore. :sigh:

this is messed up. i can understand rewriting the textbooks when it comes to science. but basic math? come on man.

(03-26-2014 08:19 AM)john01992 Wrote:  this is messed up. i can understand rewriting the textbooks when it comes to science. but basic math? come on man.

It's just weird. I mean they take simple concepts and make them so damn complicated. How in the world is doing THAT supposed to help kids learn?

(03-26-2014 08:19 AM)john01992 Wrote:  this is messed up. i can understand rewriting the textbooks when it comes to science. but basic math? come on man.

math is a science.... At least you you agree with Carl Gauss..

(03-26-2014 08:26 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 08:19 AM)john01992 Wrote:  this is messed up. i can understand rewriting the textbooks when it comes to science. but basic math? come on man.

math is a science.... At least you you agree with Carl Gauss..

you are the type of prick that likes to argue over anything.

scientific theories and their importance change over time as our understanding changes with new evidence.

basic math has been the same since the times of the greeks and will continue to be the same until the earth stops spinning.

comprende? or do I have to paint a picture for you to get the point?

(03-26-2014 08:21 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 08:19 AM)john01992 Wrote:  this is messed up. i can understand rewriting the textbooks when it comes to science. but basic math? come on man.

It's just weird. I mean they take simple concepts and make them so damn complicated. How in the world is doing THAT supposed to help kids learn?

i can understand teaching the "subtract by 100s then 10s, then 1s" style of doing a problem. but i have always viewed that as a secondary way of teaching it for someone who can't understand the regular way.

i still haven't found any rationale to explain the common cores insane way of teaching rounding. Theres a pic going around where a worksheet says 492 should be rounded down to 400 and 532 should be rounded up to 600.

My sons first grade common core math work sheets are made up of mostly word problems,
not a bad thing... but they frequently contain words like “Symmetry” “Diagonal” and “Ellipse”
which are a bit beyond the average six/seven year-old reading ability. Oddly enough, the simple
math of those word problems are way beneath a first graders ability, easily solvable by the majority of Kindergartners.

What, exactly, is the point of common core anyways? All I can tell is that it takes you 5 minutes to figure out the answer to 50-49.

(03-26-2014 08:29 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 08:26 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 08:19 AM)john01992 Wrote:  this is messed up. i can understand rewriting the textbooks when it comes to science. but basic math? come on man.

math is a science.... At least you you agree with Carl Gauss..

you are the type of prick that likes to argue over anything.

I did not know stating a fact was "arguing"... And when one decides to run around calling people pricks for such a post as I put up they can hardly take the high ground.

Quote:comprende? or do I have to paint a picture for you to get the point?

Mechanics has not changed a whole lot since Newton and it's not going to change while the earth is spinning... I guess that branch of Physics is no longer a science..

Don't get pissed about someone trying to enlighten you..

(03-26-2014 09:24 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  What, exactly, is the point of common core anyways? All I can tell is that it takes you 5 minutes to figure out the answer to 50-49.

It's suppose to teach you *WHY* an answer it what it is... It's a dumb ass way of teaching kids which was designed by captains of industry and is being forced in by promises of federal money.

(03-26-2014 09:42 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 09:24 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  What, exactly, is the point of common core anyways? All I can tell is that it takes you 5 minutes to figure out the answer to 50-49.

It's suppose to teach you *WHY* an answer it what it is... It's a dumb ass way of teaching kids which was designed by captains of industry and is being forced in by promises of federal money.

I never memorized the basic strategy card for blackjack but took the time to understand why, for example, you don't split 9s when the dealer is showing a 7.

(03-26-2014 09:42 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 09:24 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  What, exactly, is the point of common core anyways? All I can tell is that it takes you 5 minutes to figure out the answer to 50-49.

It's suppose to teach you *WHY* an answer it what it is... It's a dumb ass way of teaching kids which was designed by captains of industry and is being forced in by promises of federal money.

They taught us how to use our fingers to count... 5 fingers, take away 3, I have 2 left, so 5-3=2... Common core is not common sense...

(03-26-2014 09:53 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 09:42 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 09:24 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  What, exactly, is the point of common core anyways? All I can tell is that it takes you 5 minutes to figure out the answer to 50-49.

It's suppose to teach you *WHY* an answer it what it is... It's a dumb ass way of teaching kids which was designed by captains of industry and is being forced in by promises of federal money.

They taught us how to use our fingers to count... 5 fingers, take away 3, I have 2 left, so 5-3=2... Common core is not common sense...

Common Core is STUPID. As a person that has taken advanced classes in math, this will not get more students into math. Some kids are just plain bad at math, so common core tries to help them to understand how subtraction and addition work -- instead of how to get the correct answer. I am okay with that for students that are exceptionally behind. These are not kids that are going to make it to AP Calc, so slowing down math for them could be useful. However, if kids get it that 587-476=111, then they should move forward using the traditional concepts. There is a lot of ground to cover in math and, later on, math gets REALLY hard and good students cannot waste time on this common crap nonsense, or else they'll be even further behind.

(03-26-2014 09:41 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 08:29 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 08:26 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 08:19 AM)john01992 Wrote:  this is messed up. i can understand rewriting the textbooks when it comes to science. but basic math? come on man.

math is a science.... At least you you agree with Carl Gauss..

you are the type of prick that likes to argue over anything.

I did not know stating a fact was "arguing"... And when one decides to run around calling people pricks for such a post as I put up they can hardly take the high ground.

Quote:comprende? or do I have to paint a picture for you to get the point?

Mechanics has not changed a whole lot since Newton and it's not going to change while the earth is spinning... I guess that branch of Physics is no longer a science..

Don't get pissed about someone trying to enlighten you..

like i said at this point you are just trying to be a prick and nothing more.

(03-26-2014 07:46 AM)Paul M Wrote:  http://www.csnbbs.com/thread-682188-post...id10584406

I have absolutely no idea what the question is asking for. What is a number line?

(03-26-2014 10:14 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 07:46 AM)Paul M Wrote:  http://www.csnbbs.com/thread-682188-post...id10584406

I have absolutely no idea what the question is asking for. What is a number line?

You're supposed to first subtrct each "hundred" then each "ten" and then the "ones"

Jacks problem is he did not do the "tens"

(03-26-2014 10:14 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 07:46 AM)Paul M Wrote:  http://www.csnbbs.com/thread-682188-post...id10584406

I have absolutely no idea what the question is asking for. What is a number line?

Haha, EXACTLY!

(03-26-2014 10:17 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 10:14 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 07:46 AM)Paul M Wrote:  http://www.csnbbs.com/thread-682188-post...id10584406

I have absolutely no idea what the question is asking for. What is a number line?

You're supposed to first subtrct each "hundred" then each "ten" and then the "ones"

Jacks problem is he did not do the "tens"

How can you tell that by looking at that picture? I honestly have no idea what the hell that thing is, and I actually kinda get math... hahha. What a clusterf#$%.