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(03-25-2014 10:37 PM)texowl2 Wrote:  While I was very enthused about Hat, after being bothered about Fred leaving, this on the face looks as good as Scott or Fred. (I will have to admit I knew nothing about Wayne, who no doubt is the only coach in Jess' league or maybe vice-versa)

I knew who Wayne Graham was during the hiring process back then. I didn't know much about Scott Thompson and had only gone to maybe a couple of games in the Tommy Suitts era. The context of the time (1) the demise of the SWC, and (2) the departure of Fred Goldsmith muddled the emotions around the hiring of Ken Hatfield. I said "maybe" because I can't recall my emotions specific to that announcement, given that the uncertainty regarding the post-SWC era hung heavy.
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(03-25-2014 08:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Why is Brent NOT in the Rice hall of fame? That's just nuts.

Agreed. Needs to be in the Hall of Fame asap.
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(03-25-2014 09:37 PM)talon owl Wrote:  Furthermore on Tamir, I thought I read recently he's still focused on his playing career and trying to break into the NBA.

Yeah, I'd keep maybe a GA spot open for him if he wants it, but don't think he's done playing. Maybe a guy like Jason McKrieth
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I like this hire. It may pan out, it may not, but at least Karlgaard really did his homework and went for it.

Again, my very first post on this board was to question the hiring of Braun. Six years later, I am posting to state that I think snapping up Rhoades is a shrewd move, and that I believe our athletic department is definitely headed in the right direction. Good vibes.
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From what I've read of him, this hire makes me more impressed with the way Dr. K has worked so far.

Clearly, he had this guy on his radar for a while, and was spending time doing his homework. (Would love to see who else was on his list, but no need to make that public--Mike Rhoades appears to be a solid type hire for the Rice situation.)

Really like the fact that Dr. K chose an east-coast oriented guy. Although much has been made of Stanford since his hire, I was worried Karlgaard would fall prey to a potential bias to replicate things that worked west coast, and were more familiar to him. This hire alleviates my worries that Karlgaard has any bias but trying to pick the best with what he has to work with. And trying to make what he has to work with greater.

What a difference from Greenspan and even CDC.

Look forward to hearing the press conference, and hopefully more "vision" stuff from Karlgaard soon. Go Rice!
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Rice tabs VCU assistant Rhoades as basketball coach
By Joseph Duarte | Chron.com | March 25, 2014 | Updated: March 25, 2014 10:59pm

New Rice men's basketball coach Mike Rhoades said Tuesday he is "ready to get to work" to turn around a program that has struggled to win and endured waning fan interest for most of the past decade.

In landing Rhoades, the Owls are banking on his reinvigorating a program coming off consecutive seasons of single-digit wins and riding a 44-year streak of missing the NCAA Tournament.

Rhoades, 40, emerged as one of the top assistant coaches in the nation during the past five seasons as associate head coach at Virginia Commonwealth, which reached the Final Four at Reliant Stadium in 2011.

"That's why it was so attractive — because it's Rice," Rhoades said. "Because of their vision. I'm not afraid or scared of that. I want that."

The hiring of Rhoades as the 24th men's basketball coach in school history ends a nearly two-week search to replace Ben Braun, who resigned March 13 after six seasons.
Rice officials were not immediately available for comment Tuesday.

Rhoades is expected to finalize his contract, reportedly a five-year deal, and be introduced at a news conference Wednesday afternoon. It is his first Division I head coaching job.

"I'm looking forward to an unbelievable opportunity," Rhoades said. "One of my dreams was to be a Division I head coach at a great university. That has happened. I can't wait to get to work."

Rice is coming off 7-23 and 5-26 seasons that resulted in last-place finishes in Conference USA. During that span, the Owls went 3-29 in conference play. The Owls also struggled to draw crowds throughout much of Braun's tenure.

"We have a lot of work to do," Rhoades said. "We have to build a great culture. We want to put a product on the court that people want to be a part of and want to come support."

Before VCU, Rhoades spent 10 years at the helm of Randolph-Macon College, where he went 197-96 and led the Yellow Jackets to four Division III tournament appearances.

"I was a head coach for 10 years, but hopefully I've gotten better," Rhoades said.

At VCU, Rhoades was the top assistant on head coach Shaka Smart's staff since the 2009-10 season. The Rams averaged 27 wins in that span and this year made their fourth consecutive NCAA Tournament appearance, losing in overtime to Stephen F. Austin in the round of 64.

"In my basketball life, I've had some incredible coaches and mentors," Rhoades said. "Spending the last five years with Shaka has been out of this world. The way he leads, the way he builds relationships with the people around the program and outside the program, especially the players. You learn something every day.

"The best thing is Shaka expected his assistant coaches to be a huge part of things every day. It was on-the-job training for me to be a head coach."

Rhoades said he was "blown away" by new Rice athletic director Joe Karlgaard during the interview process.

"He wants to win, and he wants to win the right way," Rhoades said. "I'm looking forward to being a part of it. I want to be a part of the puzzle and put my stamp on the basketball program."
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The marketing angle: the team, boasting high SAT scores and a gritty on-court presence, will be known as The Rhoades Scholars.

This stuff writes itself! :)
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It seems like we are now getting someone on the way up instead someone on the way down like Braun or Bob Polk in the 1970s.

(03-25-2014 11:33 PM)Wiessman Wrote:  I like this hire. It may pan out, it may not, but at least Karlgaard really did his homework and went for it.

Again, my very first post on this board was to question the hiring of Braun. Six years later, I am posting to state that I think snapping up Rhoades is a shrewd move, and that I believe our athletic department is definitely headed in the right direction. Good vibes.
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This seems like a great catch for us.

Coach now needs to go sit with Matt Jones and get him to transfer to Rice. Matt got zero playing time for Duke and with 5 HS all-americans recruited right behind him, it does not look good for him next year. The kid needs to join the long line of Duke recruits who get recruited over and leave, and Matt can come back to Texas; why not to Rice, where he can be a featured player?
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Sure, our Team nickname can be the Rhoades Scholars.

Name of System: The Rice Cooker

*excited*



(03-25-2014 07:31 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  hiswas
(03-25-2014 05:09 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  He's a very good hire. He had a strong run at Division III Randolph-Macon prior to going to VCU, and Shaka seems to know how to produce D-1 coaches (four now, with Rhoades joining coaches at Radford, Chattanooga and Mount St. Mary's). He'll immediately upgrade your program and make it more enjoyable. Great call.

Check out the records of those other three assistants:

Radford: Mike Jones. Start: June 14, 2011. Seasons with Shaka Smart: 2.
Record at Radford: 2011/12: 6-26; 2012/13: 13-19; 13/14: 22-13 (CBI).
Name of system: No catch phrase, but it's called a rotational "blend of VCU's Havoc."
Previous coach: Brad Greenberg (2007-11): 51-68; Greenberg resigned and 4 Victories (2 Conference) in 2010-11 were vacated due to NCAA Committee on Infractions.

Mount St. Mary's: Jamion Christian. Start: March 26, 2012. Season's with Shaka Smart: 1.
Record at Mount St. Mary's: 2012/13: 18-14; 2013/14: 16-17 (NCAA).
Name of System: MAYHEM (Share-Shoot-Suffocate; pressing, three-pointers and transition offense)
Previous coach: Robert Burke: 2010/11: 11-21; 2011/12: 8-21. (Burke was placed on administrative leave in mid-Feburary.)

Chattanooga: Will Wade. Start: May 13, 2013. Seasons with Shaka Smart: 4.
Record at Chattanooga: 18-15 (CollegeInsider.com).
Name of System: CHAOS (Sprint-Execute-Relentless; up-tempo, in-your-face).
Previous coach: John Shulman: 9 years/145-146 & 2 NCAA appearances; last two: 11-21 & 13-19. (They parted ways when his contract was not extended.)
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(03-25-2014 09:12 PM)MemOwl Wrote:  This is a great coaching tree to hire off of. I don't think VCU is anything special academically, but interesting that both Shaka (kenyon) and Rhoads come from D-3 backgrounds. Basically he has to recruit kids who are close to what they were academically, but much more talented on the court.

As a general rule, yes. School of the Arts is one of the tops in the nation (top 5 to 10 in most rankings; top public university arts program). Advertising (BrandCenter - think Martin Agency like Geico ads) is highly recognized. But a lot of the programs are still young and definitely not top-caliber.

It's also the largest public university in Virginia. Definitely a heavy commuter element to it, but lots of dormatories too.

BTW, that Randolph-Macon team was a definite Division III power program, but largely with local players. I'd lay a lot of that on coaching to continue that level of success year in and year out.

Quote:The formula at VCU is clearly a program with heavy emphasis on team concept and upperclass contributions. Did anyone from their 2011 Final Four team got a sniff of the NBA?

As a matter of fact, yes. And ironically, it was largely the Rockets, giving Troy Daniels his NBA debut on 3/4/14. I think he's already been sent back down to the D-League. More from the Wikipedia entry:

Quote:After going undrafted in the 2013 NBA draft, he joined the Charlotte Bobcats for the 2013 NBA Summer League.[3] On September 23, 2013, he signed with the Bobcats.[4] However, he was later waived on October 10.[4] On October 17, he signed with the Houston Rockets but was again waived on October 26.[4] In November 2013, he was acquired by the Rio Grande Valley Vipers of the NBA D-League. On February 3, 2014, Daniels was named to the Prospects All-Star roster for the 2014 NBA D-League All-Star Game.[5]

But he was a sparing contributor during that Final Four season. And that's not a huge checkbox either way.

But think of it this way (and maybe you were - first time I read it, it seemed snarky, but rereading it now, not so much) - VCU got to the Final Four without NBA talent. By playing within themselves. Like George Mason did before them. (Butler, not so much, as they had a first round talent.)
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Love this find with video interview with him.

http://aroundthehorns.wordpress.com/tag/mike-rhoades/

Which led me to this story and this picture. Practices with the VCU team apparently. The team practices taking charges as part of the pressing style and will include Coach Smart also taking charges.

[Image: rhodes-tooth.jpg?w=500&h=666]

Adding this one, because it explains some of his transitions. He's the old hand on the coaching staff, older than everyone. He's been the lead defensive guy the last couple of seasons, apparently, while others master the offense.

http://aroundthehorns.wordpress.com/2012...cu-future/

And if what Coach Smart says is true, he could be the best player Rice has next year, too. I certainly hope not.
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(03-26-2014 08:06 AM)gsloth Wrote:  Love this find with video interview with him.

http://aroundthehorns.wordpress.com/tag/mike-rhoades/

Which led me to this story and this picture. Practices with the VCU team apparently. The team practices taking charges as part of the pressing style and will include Coach Smart also taking charges.

[Image: rhodes-tooth.jpg?w=500&h=666]

Adding this one, because it explains some of his transitions. He's the old hand on the coaching staff, older than everyone. He's been the lead defensive guy the last couple of seasons, apparently, while others master the offense.

http://aroundthehorns.wordpress.com/2012...cu-future/

And if what Coach Smart says is true, he could be the best player Rice has next year, too. I certainly hope not.

So excited about this hire. Also excited about the manner in which this process was conducted.
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I am far more excited about the manner in which the process was conducted than I am about the hire. No committee, no long drawn-out process, hired on resume of being a key contributor to a top-notch program for an extended period.

And make no mistake, I'm excited about the hire. I've made no secret that I think 94-foot basketball is the best way for Rice to win, and that seems to be firmly imbedded in this guy's DNA. He also seems to put a lot of emphasis on the student side of student-athlete. Those were really my two biggest criteria, and this looks like a grand slam on both.

I'm beginning to think Dr. K really knows what he's doing. There's a part of me that wants to ask him if he's reached the same conclusion that I have about our basketball approach, but I'll pass for now. Looks like an excellent result from an even better process.
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I over reacted in the post about Tamir and coaching. I agree that if he wants to come back making him the Director of Basketball Operations is the first step in his entry into coaching. I know he still wants to play but right now he is having some issues with his shoulder and he needs to get that resolved before deciding where to play this coming year. But the fact that he (and Thor) both have expressed an interest in coaching (and with Thor using the NFL program that gets its players into a program designed to help their interest in coaching) I certainly hope that they would both consider Rice if their careers take them in that direction.
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(03-26-2014 08:06 AM)gsloth Wrote:  Love this find with video interview with him.

http://aroundthehorns.wordpress.com/tag/mike-rhoades/

Which led me to this story and this picture. Practices with the VCU team apparently. The team practices taking charges as part of the pressing style and will include Coach Smart also taking charges.

[Image: rhodes-tooth.jpg?w=500&h=666]

Adding this one, because it explains some of his transitions. He's the old hand on the coaching staff, older than everyone. He's been the lead defensive guy the last couple of seasons, apparently, while others master the offense.

http://aroundthehorns.wordpress.com/2012...cu-future/

And if what Coach Smart says is true, he could be the best player Rice has next year, too. I certainly hope not.

Hey if we start a hockey team he can coach that too!
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(03-26-2014 08:38 AM)Rice93 Wrote:  So excited about this hire. Also excited about the manner in which this process was conducted.

That's really what I wanted to see from CDC several years ago...
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Late to this party but also want to say that I am excited about this. Everything from the way the search was conducted to the hire has been handled well and I look forward to seeing some W's in Tudor next year.
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I found the following column by Brian Doyle on the Collegeinsider.com website: it is from 2009 and provides an interesting insight on Coach Rhoades.

THE JOURNEY OF A COLLEGE BASKETBALL COACH


September 28, 2009


Roy Williams, Bill Self, Mike Krzyzewski, Tom Izzo, and many others are certainly household names in the sporting world. Leaders of high powered NCAA Division I men’s basketball programs, these coaches earn multi-million dollar salaries, numerous endorsement deals and travel the country and the world recruiting the best athletes for their institutions. For every Mike Krzyzewski, however, there are countless head and assistant coaches at all levels trying to make their mark and find success and happiness in the world of college basketball. A glance at the highly successful Division III Old Dominion Athletic Conference provides an interesting snapshot of the different paths taken in the journey of a college basketball coach.

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He still lives in the same house he lived in as the ten-year Head Coach at Division III Randolph-Macon College (RMC) in Ashland, Virginia, but when the prime recruiting month of July rolled around this year, Mike Rhoades, first year assistant at VCU, travelled in a slightly different style than he had in years past.

In Rhoades’ words, “At Macon, I drove everywhere and slept on a lot of couches. At VCU, I fly everywhere and stay in Marriotts.”

At the same time that Rhoades was spending his first July travelling the recruiting circuit as a Division I assistant coach, New RMC Head Coach Nathan Davis was hitting the road for the first time as a D-III Head Coach. Randolph-Macon moved quickly to replace Rhoades, welcoming Davis back to his alma mater after he spent eleven years as a D-I assistant at three different Patriot League schools, Navy, Bucknell, and Colgate. Davis and Rhoades are like two coaches passing in the night, both highly respected young coaches pursuing opportunities in the profession they love, not unlike many other coaches nationwide in the spring and early summer. What makes their situation ironic, however, is that after 10 years as the successful mentor at RMC, Rhoades felt the pull to test his talents at a higher level. At the same time, Davis, who had been at the “higher level” for eleven years, jumped at the opportunity to return to RMC as Head Coach.

Rhoades and Davis are not alone in the Old Dominion Athletic Conference in terms of moving between the two levels. Tony Shaver, longtime Head Coach at Division III power Hampden-Sydney College, became the Head Coach at William and Mary in 2003. Though there are others, not many make the jump from D-III Head Coach directly to D-I Head Coach. Conversely, many make the move from D-I to D-III to become Head Coaches. Former long time D-I assistants Don Burgess (Bridgewater), Clay Nunley (Randolph College), Kirby Dean (Eastern Mennonite), Dee Vick (Hampden-Sydney), and Hilliary Scott (Lynchburg) have found happiness as D-III Head Coaches, while Paul Russo (Emory and Henry) also spent some years at the Division I level. Roanoke College’s Page Moir, is perhaps the poster child for leaving the rat race of D-I to build a program at D-III. Moir spent time as an assistant at Western Carolina, Cincinnati, and Virginia Tech before returning to his childhood home as the Head Coach at Roanoke. Moir’s father, Charlie, spent 1967-73 as the Head Coach at Roanoke before moving into the Division I level, serving as Head Coach at both Virginia Tech and Tulane. The younger Moir has completed 21 years with the Maroons and is cited by many coaches in the league as a role model and mentor.

Former D-I assistants Davis, Burgess, and Nunley all proclaim to be more interested in having their own programs at quality institutions than with worrying about what level in which they coach.

“My goal was to be a head coach somewhere where I had the support of the administration and the alumni, and a chance to win. Of course, I had great affection for Randolph-Macon, as an alum,” commented Davis.

Quality of life is a factor mentioned by several coaches in their career decisions. Rhoades was fortunate that he only moved down the road. “At Macon, I lived 7/10 of a mile from the gym, and now I live 17 miles from the Siegel Center (VCU).”

Burgess and Nunley cite quality of life differences in Division III.

“This job provided not just the chance to be a head coach, but also a chance for some stability—the opportunity to lay down some roots. That was appealing,” said Nunley, who spent 4 years as an assistant at Wright State, followed by 5 years at Army, before landing the Randolph job in Lynchburg, Virginia.

After spending thirteen years as a Division I assistant, Burgess greatly appreciates the increased family time his new job provides. “The quality of life is great. We are allowed to be out on the road constantly [recruiting], but most nights we’re back in our own beds. My family had to adjust to having me around. At Bridgewater, our players normally have had between 8-14 days off over Christmas break. These kids get more time off in a year than I did in 4 years as a college basketball player,” said Burgess who played at Radford.

Roanoke’s Moir says, “At this level, you have the opportunity to have a sane family life. We recruit locally—I think I flew three times last year. My last year at Cincinnati, I flew 100,000 miles.”

Coaching is coaching, but there are other differences between the two levels. Rhoades described the whirlwind of his first July as a Division-I coach.

“I think I went from Richmond to Orlando to Ft. Wayne to DC to New York back to Orlando, and finally back to Richmond in something like 48 hours,” recalls Rhoades. As a D-III coach, Rhoades spent his summer “circling names and sending out questionnaires. At VCU, we know who we want and we are already looking at younger kids.”

The D-III mentors notice the difference in recruiting, as well.

RMC’s Davis explains, “Recruiting in D-I is much more intensive. Here, there is more time to spread it out. You’re still out a lot this time of year, but then it slows down, as you wait for applications, financial aid, etc.”

Nunley concurs about recruiting, saying, “You have to adjust to the mentality kids have about D-III. You have to be patient and sort through kids a little more.”

Burgess notes, “Recruiting is the same concept, but we have to be a little smarter and wiser with the kids we look at.”

Reality plays a role in career decisions, too, as noted by Bridgewater’s Burgess.

“There are only so many head coaching jobs in D-I and only so many high major assistant jobs.”

Nunley and Burgess also note a big difference in perspective in Division III athletics. According to Burgess, his players “take academics just as seriously as athletics.”

Nunley played Division III basketball at Goucher College and says, “Having played D-III ball, I respected the purity of this level—kids are here for the right reasons.”

There is certainly some irony evident in the career moves made by many of these coaches. Rhoades, who was highly successful as the head coach at Randolph-Macon, has been involved in potential D-I head coaching positions in the past, but was often told that his lack of experience on the D-I level was an issue. He is now gaining that experience at VCU. Burgess, a finalist for the Radford job, and candidate for others in the past, heard feedback that his lack of head coaching experience was a drawback. Obviously, he is now gaining that experience.

Of the recent trend of D-I assistants becoming Head Coaches in the ODAC, Page Moir comments, “When I first came to Roanoke, there were a lot of professors that were also Head Basketball Coaches on this level. Now that people are more interested in winning, it makes coaching at this level much more attractive. At the Division III level, you still have to win, but it’s more like a game, while it’s more like a business at the Division I level.”

There are certainly opportunities to make your mark on the profession at all levels. Moir, for example, currently serves on the board of directors for the National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC). Among his colleagues on the board are Tom Izzo, Bill Self, Mike Brey, and others.

So the next time one of the big-time D-I coaches is in the news, remember, there is also some outstanding coaching taking place in Division III. VCU’s Rhoades will most likely continue to move up the coaching ladder and become an outstanding D-I Head Coach someday, but he will undoubtedly look back on his days as a D-III coach with great memories. Davis, Burgess, Nunley and others may one day get the urge to move back to D-I after gaining valuable head coaching experience at the D-III level; or maybe they will, as Page Moir did, find a home coaching true student-athletes in Division III.



Brian Doyle is an Assistant Principal and Associate Head Coach at Centreville High School in Clifton, Virginia. Prior to becoming Assistant Principal, Doyle was a high school head coach for thirteen years. Brian also serves as member of the voting panel for the prestigious Hugh Durham National Coach of the Year Award.
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Duarte posted an article on the Chron website.

Five-year contract.
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