(03-28-2014 01:11 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(03-28-2014 12:47 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  Donnie Tyndall just let Banowsky have it at his end of year press conference. When asked about the perception of CUSA, he said "It starts at the top. Britton Banowsky won't like me saying that, but it's true."

What's behind all this? Does anyone seriously think that BB can do anything to fix this issue? I don't. I think there's got to be something else going on. Most basically, it's possible that USM wants BB out, but why? Where is the real disagreement on the direction of the conference? Is there momentum behind the conference merger scenario again? Does BB want UMass in, against USM's wishes? Could ULL be the sticking point? Does USM just want someone cheaper? That sounds remarkably petty (since we're only paying a fraction of his salary), but I guess anything is possible.

The whole thing reminds me a bit of the public denunciations we used to see in the days leading up to a Soviet show trial. There would always be these vague, ideological-sounding criticisms, and then their target would get sent to Siberia, but you never knew exactly what the dude had actually done wrong. So I feel like BB is on the way out, but I don't know exactly why.

I will say that Banowsky always seemed to be good at facilitating moves up (to the AAC and the BE), and it's possible that he finds USM's attitude ("let's build a major conference right here in CUSA") annoying. That's an attitude that at least 50% of our own fans seem to share, though (probably more if you count diehards who don't have SEC **** in their closet).

I hadn't considered that point of view on why your AD is being so outspoken, which I like by the way. If he (your AD) calls for an airport meeting please make sure he gives our AD a call.

Well, something's up. I would think UTEP would be more desirable than us in a realignment scenario, and that USM likes being associated with UTEP... but you never know what these people are thinking.

(03-28-2014 01:15 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(03-28-2014 01:11 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(03-28-2014 12:47 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  Donnie Tyndall just let Banowsky have it at his end of year press conference. When asked about the perception of CUSA, he said "It starts at the top. Britton Banowsky won't like me saying that, but it's true."

What's behind all this? Does anyone seriously think that BB can do anything to fix this issue? I don't. I think there's got to be something else going on. Most basically, it's possible that USM wants BB out, but why? Where is the real disagreement on the direction of the conference? Is there momentum behind the conference merger scenario again? Does BB want UMass in, against USM's wishes? Could ULL be the sticking point? Does USM just want someone cheaper? That sounds remarkably petty (since we're only paying a fraction of his salary), but I guess anything is possible.

The whole thing reminds me a bit of the public denunciations we used to see in the days leading up to a Soviet show trial. There would always be these vague, ideological-sounding criticisms, and then their target would get sent to Siberia, but you never knew exactly what the dude had actually done wrong. So I feel like BB is on the way out, but I don't know exactly why.

I will say that Banowsky always seemed to be good at facilitating moves up (to the AAC and the BE), and it's possible that he finds USM's attitude ("let's build a major conference right here in CUSA") annoying. That's an attitude that at least 50% of our own fans seem to share, though (probably more if you count diehards who don't have SEC **** in their closet).

I hadn't considered that point of view on why your AD is being so outspoken, which I like by the way. If he (your AD) calls for an airport meeting please make sure he gives our AD a call.

Well, something's up. I would think UTEP would be more desirable than us in a realignment scenario, and that USM likes being associated with UTEP... but you never know what these people are thinking.

Maybe USM wants the conference to go hard after UMass and its basketball program. Maybe your AD and coach are unhappy with the effort, or lack there of, to push USM and LT at tournament selection time. Maybe your AD and coach think the commissioners office should be making a push for better ooc schedules and helping to make deals for conference schools. Lots to be peeved about since we seem to have a silent commissioners office.

I've been tired of Banowsky for awhile. I'm glad the heat is being put on him a little.

Had no idea the hate for him....Figured no one coudl beat the last 2 Fun Belt lame ducks we have had for commisioner...BB did seem disinterested I noticed last April 1st at press conf. when WKU announced we are going to be a member in CUSA....

(03-28-2014 02:48 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Had no idea the hate for him....Figured no one coudl beat the last 2 Fun Belt lame ducks we have had for commisioner...BB did seem disinterested I noticed last April 1st at press conf. when WKU announced we are going to be a member in CUSA....

The hatred is almost 100% from USM fans, right? I think USM fans are (quite understandably) looking for a scapegoat. We've chewed through two ADs since 2012.

Banowsky is pretty much blameless in my opinion, except for blowing the MWC merger.

(03-28-2014 06:10 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(03-28-2014 02:48 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Had no idea the hate for him....Figured no one coudl beat the last 2 Fun Belt lame ducks we have had for commisioner...BB did seem disinterested I noticed last April 1st at press conf. when WKU announced we are going to be a member in CUSA....

The hatred is almost 100% from USM fans, right? I think USM fans are (quite understandably) looking for a scapegoat. We've chewed through two ADs since 2012.

Banowsky is pretty much blameless in my opinion, except for blowing the MWC merger.

yeah....it's always good to have a leader that has self acknowledged our conference is a stepping stone in the last few years of change.....

makes perfect sense that I would want him in charge of our conference in today's world of change and adapt....

the climate changed and he didn't.....

does that make more sense to ya?

fwiw, it's most likely a moot issue regarding football.....however, there is still an opportunity regarding hoops

I hardly think it's solely a USM vs BB issue.....our boys are just starting to lead the charge of holding him responsible....

(03-28-2014 12:47 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  Donnie Tyndall just let Banowsky have it at his end of year press conference. When asked about the perception of CUSA, he said "It starts at the top. Britton Banowsky won't like me saying that, but it's true."

What's behind all this? Does anyone seriously think that BB can do anything to fix this issue? I don't. I think there's got to be something else going on. Most basically, it's possible that USM wants BB out, but why? Where is the real disagreement on the direction of the conference? Is there momentum behind the conference merger scenario again? Does BB want UMass in, against USM's wishes? Could ULL be the sticking point? Does USM just want someone cheaper? That sounds remarkably petty (since we're only paying a fraction of his salary), but I guess anything is possible.

The whole thing reminds me a bit of the public denunciations we used to see in the days leading up to a Soviet show trial. There would always be these vague, ideological-sounding criticisms, and then their target would get sent to Siberia, but you never knew exactly what the dude had actually done wrong. So I feel like BB is on the way out, but I don't know exactly why.

I will say that Banowsky always seemed to be good at facilitating moves up (to the AAC and the BE), and it's possible that he finds USM's attitude ("let's build a major conference right here in CUSA") annoying. That's an attitude that at least 50% of our own fans seem to share, though (probably more if you count diehards who don't have SEC **** in their closet).

Not sure where your going with the umass and ull thing. But I do know that there are 2 schools we would never support to be in our league, they are ull and usa.
What can bb do? Well for one he has one of his assistants who has a seat on the selection committee. IF they are so weak that they sit back and let this happen year after year and give the big boys what they want then we need to look at who put them in that position, which would be BB.
I find very little that he does to justify a $800k a year salary. Cheaper isn't the answer, results are.

(03-28-2014 06:57 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(03-28-2014 12:47 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  Donnie Tyndall just let Banowsky have it at his end of year press conference. When asked about the perception of CUSA, he said "It starts at the top. Britton Banowsky won't like me saying that, but it's true."

What's behind all this? Does anyone seriously think that BB can do anything to fix this issue? I don't. I think there's got to be something else going on. Most basically, it's possible that USM wants BB out, but why? Where is the real disagreement on the direction of the conference? Is there momentum behind the conference merger scenario again? Does BB want UMass in, against USM's wishes? Could ULL be the sticking point? Does USM just want someone cheaper? That sounds remarkably petty (since we're only paying a fraction of his salary), but I guess anything is possible.

The whole thing reminds me a bit of the public denunciations we used to see in the days leading up to a Soviet show trial. There would always be these vague, ideological-sounding criticisms, and then their target would get sent to Siberia, but you never knew exactly what the dude had actually done wrong. So I feel like BB is on the way out, but I don't know exactly why.

I will say that Banowsky always seemed to be good at facilitating moves up (to the AAC and the BE), and it's possible that he finds USM's attitude ("let's build a major conference right here in CUSA") annoying. That's an attitude that at least 50% of our own fans seem to share, though (probably more if you count diehards who don't have SEC **** in their closet).

Not sure where your going with the umass and ull thing. But I do know that there are 2 schools we would never support to be in our league, they are ull and usa.
What can bb do? Well for one he has one of his assistants who has a seat on the selection committee. IF they are so weak that they sit back and let this happen year after year and give the big boys what they want then we need to look at who put them in that position, which would be BB.
I find very little that he does to justify a $800k a year salary. Cheaper isn't the answer, results are.

ULL and UMass were just examples. I don't know if we want either one or not. I'm just trying to figure out what issues could possibly exist between BB and Southern Miss.

Screw USA, though. I think we've given them a home-and-home in football, under General Hammond, and I'm completely against that. USM should NEVER play a road game in Ladd-Peebles. That's our house. Ask Ladanian Tomlinson.

As for the basketball thing, it's overblown. We're represented on the committee, but I'd imagine every other conference is as well. There were a couple of really ill-timed losses in conference play that hurt us, and then we played flat against Tech in the conference tourney. I never thought we had a chance at an at-large bid.

(03-28-2014 06:46 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-28-2014 06:10 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(03-28-2014 02:48 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Had no idea the hate for him....Figured no one coudl beat the last 2 Fun Belt lame ducks we have had for commisioner...BB did seem disinterested I noticed last April 1st at press conf. when WKU announced we are going to be a member in CUSA....

The hatred is almost 100% from USM fans, right? I think USM fans are (quite understandably) looking for a scapegoat. We've chewed through two ADs since 2012.

Banowsky is pretty much blameless in my opinion, except for blowing the MWC merger.

yeah....it's always good to have a leader that has self acknowledged our conference is a stepping stone in the last few years of change.....

makes perfect sense that I would want him in charge of our conference in today's world of change and adapt....

the climate changed and he didn't.....

does that make more sense to ya?

fwiw, it's most likely a moot issue regarding football.....however, there is still an opportunity regarding hoops

I hardly think it's solely a USM vs BB issue.....our boys are just starting to lead the charge of holding him responsible....

Yeah, that makes sense. BB has never shown any ability to help a conference with stable membership and I'm afraid that's whatwe are now.

I really do fault him for the merger failing. That was his chance to help all of the schools who hired him, not just the lucky ones.

Here are some additional quotes from our local paper. http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/artic...um=twitter

(03-30-2014 11:23 AM)USMSTUD Wrote:  Here are some additional quotes from our local paper. http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/artic...um=twitter

That was a good read. I hope they raise hell or at least light some fires at the May meetings.