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S&C coaching hire is crucial
The players need a mindset to play physical and that begins in the summer by getting stronger. Physical strength builds mental strength and vice versa.

We play too much with hands and arms.

UVA is very good playing with their bodies. It's effective and you get called for fouls much less. Just simple rubs and bumps. They finish better because they are stronger. More than a few times they just took the ball away from Tigers.

The returning players and newcomers must get stronger and develop a physicality that is lacking.

To me, it is the most glaring weakness.
03-23-2014 10:23 PM
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It's not that Shaq isn't big either. He needs a low-post defensive lesson from ZBO. He just stands there. He's afraid to foul. You can be aggressive and straight up and still not foul. Him and Austin need the weight room. Starting tomorrow.
03-23-2014 10:25 PM
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RE: S&C coaching hire is crucial
Nah, just hire someone competent.

The differenc between the best S&C guy in the bizz and the one that is merely competent is minimal.

Just get someone in who will actually motivate the players to workout.
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(03-23-2014 10:25 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Nah, just hire someone competent.

The differenc between the best S&C guy in the bizz and the one that is merely competent is minimal.

Just get someone in who will actually motivate the players to workout.

Well yeah...I just think the lack of physicality is what stands out most to me.
03-23-2014 10:27 PM
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Strength coach is wayyyy overrated. If you can run, endurance is big. If you want to run but can't. It doesn't matter.
03-23-2014 10:28 PM
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He'll hire a former Arizona S&C assistant and say he is one of the top up and coming guys in the business.
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(03-23-2014 10:27 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(03-23-2014 10:25 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Nah, just hire someone competent.

The differenc between the best S&C guy in the bizz and the one that is merely competent is minimal.

Just get someone in who will actually motivate the players to workout.

Well yeah...I just think the lack of physicality is what stands out most to me.

Shaq is physical. He just isn't given the tools to succeed. Doesn't matter
03-23-2014 10:29 PM
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(03-23-2014 10:27 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(03-23-2014 10:25 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Nah, just hire someone competent.

The differenc between the best S&C guy in the bizz and the one that is merely competent is minimal.

Just get someone in who will actually motivate the players to workout.

Well yeah...I just think the lack of physicality is what stands out most to me.

I think the most glaring thing is that Frank didn't seem to think it was his job to motivate the guys to workout. Doesn't matter how cutting edge badass the workouts are if the kids don't do them.
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(03-23-2014 10:28 PM)bobby jo Wrote:  Strength coach is wayyyy overrated. If you can run, endurance is big. If you want to run but can't. It doesn't matter.

I don't know...I saw a team that was more physical 1 through 5.

Getting stronger makes a difference. IMO.
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(03-23-2014 10:30 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(03-23-2014 10:27 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(03-23-2014 10:25 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Nah, just hire someone competent.

The differenc between the best S&C guy in the bizz and the one that is merely competent is minimal.

Just get someone in who will actually motivate the players to workout.

Well yeah...I just think the lack of physicality is what stands out most to me.

I think the most glaring thing is that Frank didn't seem to think it was his job to motivate the guys to workout. Doesn't matter how cutting edge badass the workouts are if the kids don't do them.

Exactly. The tone for the season is set in the off season.

That's where the S&C coach/program comes into play.
03-23-2014 10:32 PM
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We had a good one but got rid of him.
03-23-2014 10:37 PM
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(03-23-2014 10:25 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  It's not that Shaq isn't big either. He needs a low-post defensive lesson from ZBO. He just stands there. He's afraid to foul. You can be aggressive and straight up and still not foul. Him and Austin need the weight room. Starting tomorrow.

The play to end the first half is all you need to know.

Dude took the rebound away from Shaq and scored.
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Glad to hear Partner addressed this in the postgame
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I agree with HoopDreams. Also think we need at least 2 bigs off the bench that can be counted on for productive minutes each game. Starters have to know if they play hard and need rest or they get into foul trouble all is not lost. Quality depth and lots of it.
03-24-2014 12:07 PM
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(03-23-2014 10:23 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  The players need a mindset to play physical and that begins in the summer by getting stronger. Physical strength builds mental strength and vice versa.

We play too much with hands and arms.

UVA is very good playing with their bodies. It's effective and you get called for fouls much less. Just simple rubs and bumps. They finish better because they are stronger. More than a few times they just took the ball away from Tigers.

The returning players and newcomers must get stronger and develop a physicality that is lacking.

To me, it is the most glaring weakness.

So you're saying the guy being a brother-in-law shouldn't be a major criteria for consideration ?
03-24-2014 12:10 PM
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