Jeb is a good candidate. (Note that a "good candidate" has very little to do with any of our personal political preferences. A "good candidate" needs name recognition, branding power, the ability to attract money and crowds, and provide realistic chances to win swing states.) I don't think he'll actually run, though. Read "The Presidents Club" to get very in-depth look about how close the Bush and Clinton families have turned out to be. At the end of the day, they don't want to face off against the Clintons, especially when they'd be the underdogs.

(03-21-2014 03:25 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  Jeb is a good candidate… I don't think he'll actually run, though.

Agreed.

He will stand in the background as long as possible, hoping to see other credible candidates emerge. I suppose if we get to December 2015 or so, and he sees the nomination in danger of going to a candidate he simply cannot abide (Rand Paul?), he might try to parachute into the race at the last minute, as a kind of political self-sacrifice. But I feel certain that Jeb Bush really, truly, does NOT want to do this if there is any possible way to avoid it.

(03-21-2014 10:25 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Rand Paul and Susanna Martinez is my first choice republican ticket at this point.

Not bad.....Libertarian minded/Latino female. The establishment of the GOP would schit in their pants.

(03-21-2014 10:09 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 10:25 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Rand Paul and Susanna Martinez is my first choice republican ticket at this point.

Not bad.....Libertarian minded/Latino female. The establishment of the GOP would schit in their pants.

because she is a she, or because she is Latino? I'm just trying to figure out if you're sliming republicans for being racist or sexist. Or both, I guess.

(03-22-2014 01:59 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 10:09 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 10:25 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Rand Paul and Susanna Martinez is my first choice republican ticket at this point.

Not bad.....Libertarian minded/Latino female. The establishment of the GOP would schit in their pants.

because she is a she, or because she is Latino? I'm just trying to figure out if you're sliming republicans for being racist or sexist. Or both, I guess.

I think the establishment-panic in that case would be rooted more in Rand Paul's philosophy than Susana Martinez's background.

Quote:or at least that's what Mach would have us believe.

It was a temporary fix. The other brilliant thing Kasich did was cut serious funding to all school districts that had a surplus. We had. 2.2 million in the bank and the administration cut 750,000 dollars out of our budget a year. We are now 99% locally funded. He did this with most local govts. So in essence he just passed the burden down to the locals. We've burned through our surplus and we are now putting on a levy. In Ohio's constitution it's the states responsibility to fund education. He's just shifted a portion of the burden on the locals that can most afford it. Its worked. he looks like a guy who cuts taxes and balances budgets. the truth is he just sucked up surpluses from the richer areas. He wouldn't stand a chance against Hillary in Ohio but it does look like he will be re elected.

He also took a cleaver to public pensions and now wants to divvy up the spoils.

New article on the effort to draft Jeb/2016 in the Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/i...story.html

In a country of 300 million people, surely there are good candidates besides another Clinton or another Bush.

The two families are pretty close but you have to win an election by painting your opponent in a negative light. That's the formula. Drive up the other guys negatives. When we used to vacation in Marco I liked a lot of what I read about Jeb. I've been saying this for years. Jeb could lead you guys out of the wilderness. He really could.

(03-21-2014 09:20 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Quote:Jeb Bush is casting a shadow over the entire field of potential Republican presidential candidates, as the former Florida governor continues to ponder a run in 2016 and keep his political options open.

On one hand, the Bush name, a network of donors and his relatively conservative record as governor make Mr. Bush a force to be reckoned with.

But the Bush name also could work against him. Even his mother waffled on whether the country is ready for another member of her family to run for the White House.

“Asking whether Jeb Bush reshapes the presidential field is like asking whether LeBron James reshapes a basketball team,” said Brett Doster, a Florida-based Republican Party strategist who worked on Mr. Bush’s first gubernatorial campaign in 1993.

“If you look at the Republican field minus Jeb Bush, you have some potential stars out there, but nobody knows whether they can put together the grand effort needed to win the nomination and go on to win the White House,” he said. “With Jeb, people are immediately struck by his intellectual heft. He is a serious policymaker and you get the sense that he could go all the way.”

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Better him than big liberal and Obama lover Chris Crusty.

(03-24-2014 09:08 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 01:59 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 10:09 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 10:25 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Rand Paul and Susanna Martinez is my first choice republican ticket at this point.

Not bad.....Libertarian minded/Latino female. The establishment of the GOP would schit in their pants.

because she is a she, or because she is Latino? I'm just trying to figure out if you're sliming republicans for being racist or sexist. Or both, I guess.

I think the establishment-panic in that case would be rooted more in Rand Paul's philosophy than Susana Martinez's background.

he strongly implied that there is something about being Latino and/or female would bother the constantly referenced, but never defined "republican establishment".

I just want to know which one of those things he thinks republicans are; sexists or racists. it's clearly one of the two.

(04-01-2014 09:04 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 09:08 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 01:59 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 10:09 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 10:25 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Rand Paul and Susanna Martinez is my first choice republican ticket at this point.

Not bad.....Libertarian minded/Latino female. The establishment of the GOP would schit in their pants.

because she is a she, or because she is Latino? I'm just trying to figure out if you're sliming republicans for being racist or sexist. Or both, I guess.

I think the establishment-panic in that case would be rooted more in Rand Paul's philosophy than Susana Martinez's background.

he strongly implied that there is something about being Latino and/or female would bother the constantly referenced, but never defined "republican establishment".

I just want to know which one of those things he thinks republicans are; sexists or racists. it's clearly one of the two.

I don't think this comment is addressed to me, but if it is then my answer is neither. That's my reason for liking this ticket. It makes precisely that statement.

It's going to be very hard for the Republicans to beat Hillary even with a fanstatic candidate....Many undecided voters will shy away from Jeb Bush solely because of the Bush stigma. If the Republicans want to lose they should go ahead and nominate him becuase that's how they will lose this election.

Anyone that thinks ANYONE in either gang is lock for the nomination evidently has not followed politics for very long. 2 years is an eternity.

It's the idiotic big GOP donors who are driving this.

I have to wonder about Jeb's decision making. He is intimately involved and stands to gain $$$ from Common Core. Like his entire family, he is not a conservative. More of a big government guy, IMO.

If Jeb runs he clears the field.

He could raise the money to win, and the whole name of the game is money.

Jeb isn't worried about the primary he's worried about the general.

(04-01-2014 06:23 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Anyone that thinks ANYONE in either gang is lock for the nomination evidently has not followed politics for very long. 2 years is an eternity.

Hillary is a lock. No non-incumbent president has ever had numbers like hers... She's leading by 60 points!

If Republicans want to beat Hillary electoral college math dictates they need to win Florida. Jeb Bush might be their best bet to do so, but I can't even see it happening with him. GOP pollster Rasmussen found Hillary leading him there 47-33 last month. If Crist wins the playing field will be tilted even more in Hillary favor. And from what I gather, Jeb likes his lifestyle and doesn't really want to run. The only thing that can stop President Hillary is her own health.

(04-02-2014 09:38 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(04-01-2014 06:23 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Anyone that thinks ANYONE in either gang is lock for the nomination evidently has not followed politics for very long. 2 years is an eternity.

Hillary is a lock. No non-incumbent president has ever had numbers like hers... She's leading by 60 points!

If Republicans want to beat Hillary electoral college math dictates they need to win Florida. Jeb Bush might be their best bet to do so, but I can't even see it happening with him. GOP pollster Rasmussen found Hillary leading him there 47-33 last month. He's associated himself too much with the unpopular Rick Scott and if Crist wins the playing field will be tilted even more in Hillary favor. And from what I gather, Jeb likes his lifestyle and doesn't really want to run. The only thing that can stop President Hillary is her own health.

Then what?

She's been bad at everything else she's ever done. Let's make her president.

Helluvan idea.