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RE: So glad the "Mid-Majors" are knocking of the "Big Boys"
(03-23-2014 01:05 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(03-21-2014 02:54 PM)Chuck A Wrote:  ... But as far as college football is concerned, most definitely all three are mid-major, thusly the G5 designation or previous FCS name. If you are not a part of the P5, to them and the media as it pertains to football you are mid-major or FCS...in short you are beneath them.
First, the Big East and A-10 don't sponsor football, so as far as college football is concerned, those two are non-existent. Some of their members play FCS football, but in FCS conferences.

Second, the previous designation of the P5 and Go5 were BCS and non-BCS (or AQ and non-AQ) ... the Go5 are FBS conferences, the FCS is a different subdivision of Division 1 entirely.

The American was formally a BCS conference for one final year this last football season, since it wasn't worth the trouble to kick them out when the BCS system was being replaced by the CFP system next football season anyway. With American Conference BBall showing on The Entertainment and Sports Network, obviously the decision was made for this BBall season to draw the money ruler at the money being made by the American. That ruler brings in the P5 conferences and, probably not by preference, the new Big East, hence "seven majors".

So in your mind:

ACC
SEC
B1G
B12
Pac12
AAC
Big East

Probably a good line of demarcation but obviously about 20-25 solid programs stranded in "midmajor" leagues. Teams like SDSU, BYU, several A-10 schools, Wichita St, Gonzaga, New Mexico, UNLV, etc...

I love the NCAA tourney the way it is though....(changed my mind from a more select grouping). Every year we get these crazy upsets which is good for the game and general fans out there.
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RE: So glad the "Mid-Majors" are knocking of the "Big Boys"
(03-23-2014 09:58 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  So in your mind:

ACC
SEC
B1G
B12
Pac12
AAC
Big East

Well, originally in Sports Illustrated's coverage, referring to Gulfcoastal's comment and link to SI. And obviously the mainstream sports press cannot define "major" in a way that threatens to omit one of the P5 conferences: with the SEC's recent weakness in BBall, setting the boundary line at The American safely includes the SEC without the risk of having to fudge the criteria on a year by year basis.

But those are seven of the top eight in RPI and seven of the eight conferences that had more at-large than conference champion bids, so for this season, add the A10 and its a reasonable list even without putting the thumb on the scales to the benefit of the P5, as the sporting press is bound to do by commercial considerations.

Quote: Probably a good line of demarcation but obviously about 20-25 solid programs stranded in "midmajor" leagues. Teams like SDSU, BYU, several A-10 schools, Wichita St, Gonzaga, New Mexico, UNLV, etc...

To my mind, you can't have the American on that list without having the A10 on that list, even if the A10 only has a $5m/year media contract and so is close to the situation of earning less from media contract than from NCAA units and other distributions of tournament net revenue (remember that the other distributions total to more than the BBall fund, and that the Grants in Aid fund on its own is more than half the size of the BBall fund).

The real boundary line question to me is whether you put the dividing line between the American and the WCC, or between the MWC and the MVC. I don't have a horse in the race either way. "How major is major" is one of those "how long is a short piece of string?" questions ... its dropping a boundary line into what is in reality a question of degree.

(03-23-2014 09:58 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  I love the NCAA tourney the way it is though....(changed my mind from a more select grouping). Every year we get these crazy upsets which is good for the game and general fans out there.
Hell, if it was me, I'd open it up even further ... set up four regional 4-team playoff tournaments to slot in the #11 seed in each region, and seed in the best 16 out of 32 from the best regular season school that didn't get one of the 60 main bids.
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