Good luck enforcing this dumbschit ban. Are they also going to ban fireplaces?

(03-20-2014 10:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Here in Texas, we are already restricted from burning wood in our fireplaces or even outside on a regular basis.

I bet nobody actually gives 2 schits about that restriction.

(03-21-2014 10:21 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Good luck enforcing this dumbschit ban. Are they also going to ban fireplaces?

Yes.

Air district officials have issued a ban on fireplace use in seven California counties.

The Air Quality Management District says burning wood, pellets and manufactured fire logs in residential fireplaces, stoves and fire pits is prohibited until midnight Monday.

The counties included are San Joaquin, Stanislaus, Madera, Fresno, Kings and Tulare. Portions of Kern County are also included.

Officials say the ban results from deteriorating air quality across the Central Valley.

Violations can result in fines.


Link to madness

Dumb. Can't take down the biggest polluters as they pay your paychecks so you let them 'self regulate' and then go after the poor. SMH.

(03-21-2014 11:49 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Dumb. Can't take down the biggest polluters as they pay your paychecks so you let them 'self regulate' and then go after the poor. SMH.

Dumb...Can't take down the biggest polluter...Government....

(03-21-2014 10:03 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-20-2014 10:09 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 07:40 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Let someone from the EPA come tell me I can't use my woodstove. After I finish laughing at them I'll make damn sure they don't step foot on my place again.

This is the kind of stupid that just can't be fixed.

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lmfao....yeah the wood stove nazis are going to infiltrate.....your comment is the first thing I thought when I saw the thread title....

I know there isn't going to be anybody checking up on woodstoves, but it's just beyond stupid that the EPA is concerning themselves with woodstoves and pollution.

I shouldn't have to deal with any red tape if I decide I want to put a woodstove in my shop or in a barn. It's just another needless govt intrusion into people's lives.

it really is beyond stupid.....

I despise what our form of gov't has become for many reasons....this is one I never thought would rear the ugly head

(03-21-2014 11:49 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Dumb. Can't take down the biggest polluters as they pay your paychecks so you let them 'self regulate' and then go after the poor. SMH.

Because they already control the biggest polluters in a million ways... This is about controlling everyone..

Stop me before I kill again.

(03-22-2014 03:10 PM)EagleX Wrote:  Stop me before I kill again.

(03-21-2014 11:10 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 10:21 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Good luck enforcing this dumbschit ban. Are they also going to ban fireplaces?

Yes.

Air district officials have issued a ban on fireplace use in seven California counties.

The Air Quality Management District says burning wood, pellets and manufactured fire logs in residential fireplaces, stoves and fire pits is prohibited until midnight Monday.

The counties included are San Joaquin, Stanislaus, Madera, Fresno, Kings and Tulare. Portions of Kern County are also included.

Officials say the ban results from deteriorating air quality across the Central Valley.

Violations can result in fines.


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Fire prevention is the only excuse for limitations, and should only apply to outdoor open fires during certain times of day, on a locality basis.

Other versions are not applicable bc fire is required for survival by some.

(03-21-2014 10:03 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-20-2014 10:09 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 07:40 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Let someone from the EPA come tell me I can't use my woodstove. After I finish laughing at them I'll make damn sure they don't step foot on my place again.

This is the kind of stupid that just can't be fixed.

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lmfao....yeah the wood stove nazis are going to infiltrate.....your comment is the first thing I thought when I saw the thread title....

I know there isn't going to be anybody checking up on woodstoves, but it's just beyond stupid that the EPA is concerning themselves with woodstoves and pollution.

Really...you really typed this?

The ENVIRONMENTAL Protection Agency, the EPA shouldn't be concerned with pollution?

(03-24-2014 09:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Really...you really typed this?

The ENVIRONMENTAL Protection Agency, the EPA shouldn't be concerned with pollution?

Wood ash (particulates) are not pollution. Try to keep up.

(03-24-2014 12:24 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 09:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Really...you really typed this?

The ENVIRONMENTAL Protection Agency, the EPA shouldn't be concerned with pollution?

Wood ash (particulates) are not pollution. Try to keep up.

Reading defiency buddy? He typed pollution. Not me.

And of course...you, as usual, don't know what the hell you're talking about.

But feel free to remain an ignorant fool.

Quote:What are the health effects of wood smoke pollution?

Smoke resulting from improperly burned wood contains many chemical substances that are considered harmful such as hazardous air pollutants (HAPs), fine particle pollution (ash), and volatile organic compounds (VOC).

•HAPs are an important component of wood smoke. A group of hazardous air pollutants known as polycyclic organic matter includes benzo(a)pyrene, which may cause cancer.
•Particle pollution in smoke can damage lung tissue and lead to serious respiratory problems when breathed in high concentrations. In low concentrations, particle pollution in wood smoke can harm the health of children, the elderly, and those with existing respiratory diseases. EPA has developed an extensive Web site related to particle pollution.
•Learn more about the potential health impacts of wood smoke pollution from the American Lung Association.

(03-24-2014 01:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:What are the health effects of wood smoke pollution?

Smoke resulting from improperly burned wood contains many chemical substances that are considered harmful such as hazardous air pollutants (HAPs), fine particle pollution (ash), and volatile organic compounds (VOC).

•HAPs are an important component of wood smoke. A group of hazardous air pollutants known as polycyclic organic matter includes benzo(a)pyrene, which may cause cancer.
•Particle pollution in smoke can damage lung tissue and lead to serious respiratory problems when breathed in high concentrations. In low concentrations, particle pollution in wood smoke can harm the health of children, the elderly, and those with existing respiratory diseases. EPA has developed an extensive Web site related to particle pollution.
•Learn more about the potential health impacts of wood smoke pollution from the American Lung Association.

That's easy to fix; Obama can use his pen or phone to ban forest fires and volcanoes.



Seriously, do you get the feeling that everything we need to live on/with has been found to be what's killing us? Sometimes I just can't stand it.

(03-24-2014 01:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And of course...you, as usual, don't know what the hell you're talking about.

But feel free to remain an ignorant fool.

Quote:What are the health effects of wood smoke pollution?

Smoke resulting from improperly burned wood contains many chemical substances that are considered harmful such as hazardous air pollutants (HAPs), fine particle pollution (ash), and volatile organic compounds (VOC).

•HAPs are an important component of wood smoke. A group of hazardous air pollutants known as polycyclic organic matter includes benzo(a)pyrene, which may cause cancer.
•Particle pollution in smoke can damage lung tissue and lead to serious respiratory problems when breathed in high concentrations. In low concentrations, particle pollution in wood smoke can harm the health of children, the elderly, and those with existing respiratory diseases. EPA has developed an extensive Web site related to particle pollution.
•Learn more about the potential health impacts of wood smoke pollution from the American Lung Association.

Angry White Male much?

If you stick your head in your banned woodstove... yes, you may get cancer from it. A head the size of yours won't even fit into a woodstove

If your head wasn't so much bigger than your brain, you'd realize the smoke goes out of the chimney into the air 20 feet above your house (and smoke rises). No lung cancer...

(03-24-2014 09:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 10:03 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-20-2014 10:09 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 07:40 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Let someone from the EPA come tell me I can't use my woodstove. After I finish laughing at them I'll make damn sure they don't step foot on my place again.

This is the kind of stupid that just can't be fixed.

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lmfao....yeah the wood stove nazis are going to infiltrate.....your comment is the first thing I thought when I saw the thread title....

I know there isn't going to be anybody checking up on woodstoves, but it's just beyond stupid that the EPA is concerning themselves with woodstoves and pollution.

Really...you really typed this?

The ENVIRONMENTAL Protection Agency, the EPA shouldn't be concerned with pollution?

really....you typed this.....wood = pollution????????? hmmmmmmm, wonder where your bread is buttered....

just fkn wow......

this thread/board is a clusterfk of shite.......

Isn't a wood stove one of the most basic of "green" energy sources you could get.
To heck with the pollution. If it's green it must be good.

(03-24-2014 11:13 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-24-2014 09:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 10:03 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-20-2014 10:09 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 07:40 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Let someone from the EPA come tell me I can't use my woodstove. After I finish laughing at them I'll make damn sure they don't step foot on my place again.

This is the kind of stupid that just can't be fixed.

Posted from my mobile device using the CSNbbs App

lmfao....yeah the wood stove nazis are going to infiltrate.....your comment is the first thing I thought when I saw the thread title....

I know there isn't going to be anybody checking up on woodstoves, but it's just beyond stupid that the EPA is concerning themselves with woodstoves and pollution.

Really...you really typed this?

The ENVIRONMENTAL Protection Agency, the EPA shouldn't be concerned with pollution?

really....you typed this.....wood = pollution????????? hmmmmmmm, wonder where your bread is buttered....

just fkn wow......

this thread/board is a clusterfk of shite.......

Sorry dude, but I'll side with the American Lung Association over your ignorant beliefs. Have a nice day.

American Lung Association Cautions Against Wood-burning and Urges Cleaner Alternatives for Winter Heat

(03-24-2014 09:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-21-2014 10:03 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(03-20-2014 10:09 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 07:40 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Let someone from the EPA come tell me I can't use my woodstove. After I finish laughing at them I'll make damn sure they don't step foot on my place again.

This is the kind of stupid that just can't be fixed.

Posted from my mobile device using the CSNbbs App

lmfao....yeah the wood stove nazis are going to infiltrate.....your comment is the first thing I thought when I saw the thread title....

I know there isn't going to be anybody checking up on woodstoves, but it's just beyond stupid that the EPA is concerning themselves with woodstoves and pollution.

Really...you really typed this?

The ENVIRONMENTAL Protection Agency, the EPA shouldn't be concerned with pollution?

You think a government agency should concern themselves with the woodstoves in private homes instead of focusing on industry that generates billions of times more pollution? And since when is smoke from burning wood considered pollution? That's my point. The EPA is focusing on so-called pollution from woodstoves that won't equal the daily pollution output of industry. That's a waste of resources and unnecessary regulation.

200, there has been restriction on wood stove emissions for years. They just increased them and it only applies to new stove manufactures.

And yes, I want the government regulating private industry when it comes to air and water quality. You may not want your tax dollars going there, but personally, I don't want to see this again:

(Yes, I know, this isn't caused directly from wood burning stoves.)

This is a non story.