(03-19-2014 09:30 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:25 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:20 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 10:58 PM)tigerjohn Wrote:  Pastner

Who will take their team from rags to riches faster?

I think the Pearl wins that match.

Auburn will rue the day they hired Bruce Pearl. Auburn already got its pass with the Cam Newton fiasco.

Hiring Pearl is like putting a lightening rod up during a thunderstorm.

Don't forget; not only did the NCAA nail him at UT, but he'd already been blackballed for over a decade for that business at Illinois.

Whatever makes you happy.

Funny thing is the NCAA guy that investigated and busted Pearl is now working AT Auburn as their NCAA compliance liaison. I'm sure he was consulted about the ramifications of hiring Pearl and suffice it to say Auburn hired him.

I was shocked when I heard that tidbit.

If it ain't Pastner we have a serious issue.

(03-19-2014 12:18 AM)FUT Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:21 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  This is an easy one: Pastner has too big a head start. He's got some bona fide pros coming in here over the next three years.

I like Pearl and I think he'll do well enough at Auburn to move on up in 4-5 years but Pastner will get to S16 first.

Tend to agree. The lawson kids (if we get the other two and skal if we get him) should make a sweet 16 very attainable. I do think pearl will get it done but your 4-5 year plan seems about right. Hell, we can still do it this year if we play our best ball.

If recruiting goes the way I think it will. In a couple of years he really will be able to just 'roll the ball out there' and let them play....not saying that's what he will do but that he probably could. I think next year will be a little tough but after that; watch out.

(03-19-2014 12:35 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 12:18 AM)FUT Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:21 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  This is an easy one: Pastner has too big a head start. He's got some bona fide pros coming in here over the next three years.

I like Pearl and I think he'll do well enough at Auburn to move on up in 4-5 years but Pastner will get to S16 first.

Tend to agree. The lawson kids (if we get the other two and skal if we get him) should make a sweet 16 very attainable. I do think pearl will get it done but your 4-5 year plan seems about right. Hell, we can still do it this year if we play our best ball.

If recruiting goes the way I think it will. In a couple of years he really will be able to just 'roll the ball out there' and let them play....not saying that's what he will do but that he probably could. I think next year will be a little tough but after that; watch out.

Pretty much agree with you guys on everything. CJP should get to a S16 way before Pearl. But if not it's time to re-assess.

(03-19-2014 10:03 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:47 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:30 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:25 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:20 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Who will take their team from rags to riches faster?

I think the Pearl wins that match.

Auburn will rue the day they hired Bruce Pearl. Auburn already got its pass with the Cam Newton fiasco.

Hiring Pearl is like putting a lightening rod up during a thunderstorm.

Don't forget; not only did the NCAA nail him at UT, but he'd already been blackballed for over a decade for that business at Illinois.

Whatever makes you happy.

Funny thing is the NCAA guy that investigated and busted Pearl is now working AT Auburn as their NCAA compliance liaison. I'm sure he was consulted about the ramifications of hiring Pearl and suffice it to say Auburn hired him.

Pearl has now only found employment at a D2 school, a lowly mid major, and two of the more desperate D1 programs in the country; neither of which give a **** no matter how much their programs cheat. This despite the fact that he has won everywhere.

This speaks volumes about the handful of (deleted description) posters on this board who wanted us to hire him. Some of our own posters hold Pastner to super high standards, when they can't even spell or string together a few words to form a proper sentence; and without realizing it, they are comparing out program to a piece of crap like Auburn.

It's the people like you who keep trying to compare Pearl to Josh. You guys throw names out there yourselves then argue against it.

In any event, what are these "super high" standards that Pastner is being held to?

People want him to win games he is supposed to win. People want a team that has been preseason 19, 11, 17 and 13 the last four years to match those expectations in the post-season (heck in the regular season, too).

People want him to win the games he is supposed to win and occasionally steal a game he isn't expected to win.

Best I can tell (and I'm sure Stammers will educate me) is that Pastner has beaten two team in his career that he wasn't expected to win: (n) Oklahoma State and @ Louisville this year. If you want to make a stretch, you can say the CUSA Final vs. UTEP, so that could be three.

He has lost a boatload of games he is supposed to win:
2009-10:
SMU
Houston (2)
UMass

10-11:
@SMU
@Rice
Tulsa
@ECU

11-12
At least one of the two Maui losses
Murray State
Utep at home
St. Louis

12-13:
VCU
Minnesota
@xavier

13-14:
(h) Cinci
(h) UConn (twice)
@ Houston

Buddy, wtf are you on today? Sexhog HIMSELF thinks that he is Auburn worthy. Out of all the D1 jobs out there; is Auburn even in the top 60?

(03-19-2014 09:34 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:30 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:25 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:20 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 10:58 PM)tigerjohn Wrote:  Pastner

Who will take their team from rags to riches faster?

I think the Pearl wins that match.

Auburn will rue the day they hired Bruce Pearl. Auburn already got its pass with the Cam Newton fiasco.

Hiring Pearl is like putting a lightening rod up during a thunderstorm.

Don't forget; not only did the NCAA nail him at UT, but he'd already been blackballed for over a decade for that business at Illinois.

Whatever makes you happy.

Funny thing is the NCAA guy that investigated and busted Pearl is now working AT Auburn as their NCAA compliance liaison. I'm am sure he was consulted about the ramifications of hiring Pearl and suffice it to say Auburn hired him.

And you think that will end well?

you are kidding, right. we had a player that was cleared by the NCAA and our athletic department and attorneys basically bent over and took it. i believe we are in better hands now, but come on we must have had the dumbest people on the face of the earth in charge of handling our ncaa problems.

all the crap that was thrown at auburn and nothing stuck. they hire not only pearl but ncaa guy that busted him. smarter athletic department, smarter attorneys.

really, you think that this is somehow gonna burn auburn. just because we got our arses handed to us because of monumental incompetence doesnt mean that auburn is run the same way.

you guys crack me up.... auburn just doesnt want to be the worst in basketball. considering how bad the sec west has become, that shouldnt be too tough. they dont care about making the sweet 16. once every 20 years would be stellar.

(03-19-2014 10:27 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 10:08 AM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:47 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  This has been beaten to death, but Pearl had NO NCAA issues at USI or or UMw. At Iowa, his only issue was being a rat, not a cheat. At TN, he frucked up by having some recruits over for a bbq. Then getting scared and orchestrating a lie. The extra texting is no longer a violation.

True about Iowa, but he wasn't a rat with honest intentions of cleaning up the NCAA and ensuring it was a fair playing field. He was a rat with the intent of inflicting damage to another school that out recruited him. Correct me if I'm wrong because I may be, but wasn't what he "ratted" about discovered to be total BS and they weren't charged for what he actually reported? I believe that recruit he lost referred to Pearl as a "scumbag" or something similar to that for the way in which Pearl pursued him and tried to dishonestly set him up.

When was the Wisconsin Milwaukee self-reported NCAA infraction for Pearl's recruiting violation removed? Serious question.

At some point the Iowa stuff just has to be laid to rest. Reagan had just left office. It's been a quarter of a century since that incident.

As for Josh, Pastner has committed secondary violations here and Memphis has reported them. Most coaches have.

What violations has Pastner committed? Details please.

How awesome is it that our program is now being compared to Auburn?

Great post, Shere Khan

(03-19-2014 01:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 10:27 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 10:08 AM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:47 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  This has been beaten to death, but Pearl had NO NCAA issues at USI or or UMw. At Iowa, his only issue was being a rat, not a cheat. At TN, he frucked up by having some recruits over for a bbq. Then getting scared and orchestrating a lie. The extra texting is no longer a violation.

True about Iowa, but he wasn't a rat with honest intentions of cleaning up the NCAA and ensuring it was a fair playing field. He was a rat with the intent of inflicting damage to another school that out recruited him. Correct me if I'm wrong because I may be, but wasn't what he "ratted" about discovered to be total BS and they weren't charged for what he actually reported? I believe that recruit he lost referred to Pearl as a "scumbag" or something similar to that for the way in which Pearl pursued him and tried to dishonestly set him up.

When was the Wisconsin Milwaukee self-reported NCAA infraction for Pearl's recruiting violation removed? Serious question.

At some point the Iowa stuff just has to be laid to rest. Reagan had just left office. It's been a quarter of a century since that incident.

As for Josh, Pastner has committed secondary violations here and Memphis has reported them. Most coaches have.

What violations has Pastner committed? Details please.

There have been a couple of minor infractions. Very, very minor stuff.

(03-19-2014 01:12 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:34 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:30 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:25 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:20 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Who will take their team from rags to riches faster?

I think the Pearl wins that match.

Auburn will rue the day they hired Bruce Pearl. Auburn already got its pass with the Cam Newton fiasco.

Hiring Pearl is like putting a lightening rod up during a thunderstorm.

Don't forget; not only did the NCAA nail him at UT, but he'd already been blackballed for over a decade for that business at Illinois.

Whatever makes you happy.

Funny thing is the NCAA guy that investigated and busted Pearl is now working AT Auburn as their NCAA compliance liaison. I'm am sure he was consulted about the ramifications of hiring Pearl and suffice it to say Auburn hired him.

And you think that will end well?

you are kidding, right. we had a player that was cleared by the NCAA and our athletic department and attorneys basically bent over and took it. i believe we are in better hands now, but come on we must have had the dumbest people on the face of the earth in charge of handling our ncaa problems.

all the crap that was thrown at auburn and nothing stuck. they hire not only pearl but ncaa guy that busted him. smarter athletic department, smarter attorneys.

really, you think that this is somehow gonna burn auburn. just because we got our arses handed to us because of monumental incompetence doesnt mean that auburn is run the same way.

you guys crack me up.... auburn just doesnt want to be the worst in basketball. considering how bad the sec west has become, that shouldnt be too tough. they dont care about making the sweet 16. once every 20 years would be stellar.

One word Lipman

(03-19-2014 01:20 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 01:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 10:27 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 10:08 AM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:47 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  This has been beaten to death, but Pearl had NO NCAA issues at USI or or UMw. At Iowa, his only issue was being a rat, not a cheat. At TN, he frucked up by having some recruits over for a bbq. Then getting scared and orchestrating a lie. The extra texting is no longer a violation.

True about Iowa, but he wasn't a rat with honest intentions of cleaning up the NCAA and ensuring it was a fair playing field. He was a rat with the intent of inflicting damage to another school that out recruited him. Correct me if I'm wrong because I may be, but wasn't what he "ratted" about discovered to be total BS and they weren't charged for what he actually reported? I believe that recruit he lost referred to Pearl as a "scumbag" or something similar to that for the way in which Pearl pursued him and tried to dishonestly set him up.

When was the Wisconsin Milwaukee self-reported NCAA infraction for Pearl's recruiting violation removed? Serious question.

At some point the Iowa stuff just has to be laid to rest. Reagan had just left office. It's been a quarter of a century since that incident.

As for Josh, Pastner has committed secondary violations here and Memphis has reported them. Most coaches have.

What violations has Pastner committed? Details please.

There have been a couple of minor infractions. Very, very minor stuff.

Such as?

(03-19-2014 01:38 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 01:20 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 01:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 10:27 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 10:08 AM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  True about Iowa, but he wasn't a rat with honest intentions of cleaning up the NCAA and ensuring it was a fair playing field. He was a rat with the intent of inflicting damage to another school that out recruited him. Correct me if I'm wrong because I may be, but wasn't what he "ratted" about discovered to be total BS and they weren't charged for what he actually reported? I believe that recruit he lost referred to Pearl as a "scumbag" or something similar to that for the way in which Pearl pursued him and tried to dishonestly set him up.

When was the Wisconsin Milwaukee self-reported NCAA infraction for Pearl's recruiting violation removed? Serious question.

At some point the Iowa stuff just has to be laid to rest. Reagan had just left office. It's been a quarter of a century since that incident.

As for Josh, Pastner has committed secondary violations here and Memphis has reported them. Most coaches have.

What violations has Pastner committed? Details please.

There have been a couple of minor infractions. Very, very minor stuff.

Such as?

who could forget the one where he blamed his wife?

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketb...n-his-wife

(03-19-2014 01:24 PM)Downtown Tiger Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 01:12 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:34 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:30 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 09:25 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  Auburn will rue the day they hired Bruce Pearl. Auburn already got its pass with the Cam Newton fiasco.

Hiring Pearl is like putting a lightening rod up during a thunderstorm.

Don't forget; not only did the NCAA nail him at UT, but he'd already been blackballed for over a decade for that business at Illinois.

Whatever makes you happy.

Funny thing is the NCAA guy that investigated and busted Pearl is now working AT Auburn as their NCAA compliance liaison. I'm am sure he was consulted about the ramifications of hiring Pearl and suffice it to say Auburn hired him.

And you think that will end well?

you are kidding, right. we had a player that was cleared by the NCAA and our athletic department and attorneys basically bent over and took it. i believe we are in better hands now, but come on we must have had the dumbest people on the face of the earth in charge of handling our ncaa problems.

all the crap that was thrown at auburn and nothing stuck. they hire not only pearl but ncaa guy that busted him. smarter athletic department, smarter attorneys.

really, you think that this is somehow gonna burn auburn. just because we got our arses handed to us because of monumental incompetence doesnt mean that auburn is run the same way.

you guys crack me up.... auburn just doesnt want to be the worst in basketball. considering how bad the sec west has become, that shouldnt be too tough. they dont care about making the sweet 16. once every 20 years would be stellar.

One word Lipman

Auburn is getting too cute by half. I doubt Auburn hired the compliance officer with a wink, thinking that now they can now hire a crooked basketball coach. They hired the compliance officer to protect the football program from getting itself on probation.

Pearl will put some butts in the seats, but he isn't going to be there long. He's going to be on a short leash, and he isn't going to like it. So he's either going to bolt, or he's going to get fired. I'll say he's gone either way by spring 2017.

I guess we'll find out who's right eventually.

Didn't we already go through 2 of these? Why do you want him representing your school?

(03-19-2014 01:38 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 01:20 PM)450bench Wrote:  [quote='Stammers' pid='10568837' dateline='1395252930']
[quote='salukiblue' pid='10567957' dateline='1395242859']
...
There have been a couple of minor infractions. Very, very minor stuff.

Such as?

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/story/185339...z2wR4kkcke

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-...21392.html

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/201...inor-ncaa/

I think the point is that secondary violations are kind of a fact of life and it doesn't really mean that a coach is dirty when one is committed. It's almost unavoidable that a major program is going to commit a secondary violation from time to time.

Think Pastner will find someway to get tickets to the Regional in Memphis this season. So he will take the team to watch if they are not still playing elsewhere. Never said which coach will have team playing in sweet 16, only taking team to sweet 16.

Pearl . Bruce will have Auburn up and running in a couple of years. The guy is a great basketball coach.

(03-19-2014 01:52 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 01:38 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(03-19-2014 01:20 PM)450bench Wrote:  [quote='Stammers' pid='10568837' dateline='1395252930']
[quote='salukiblue' pid='10567957' dateline='1395242859']
...
There have been a couple of minor infractions. Very, very minor stuff.

Such as?

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/story/185339...z2wR4kkcke

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-...21392.html

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/201...inor-ncaa/

I think the point is that secondary violations are kind of a fact of life and it doesn't really mean that a coach is dirty when one is committed. It's almost unavoidable that a major program is going to commit a secondary violation from time to time.

I knew when I asked the question what the two known ones were. Basically we have the Tony Parker one, and the visit to Mbakwe, which was cleared by our compliance department. Pastner asked before the visit so he didn't even realize he was committing the infraction.

I like to party with Pearl . Pastner no so much.