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(03-18-2014 03:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
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(03-18-2014 09:21 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-17-2014 07:10 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  I know ppl hate on Aresco, but he's a great ambassador for the conference that understands exposure and talking points.

Problem is, he's all hot air. All hat and no cattle. He talks a big game but in the end, we have a $2.1m media deal, no AQ for major bowls, lousy minor bowls. In other words, he never delivers on the talk.

We've had this argument before, but I'll go ahead and toss it onto this thread too... I'd love, to hear exactly what you or any of the other armchair commissioners would have done differently. Or what you would say differently in any of these interviews.

Every team that left was going to leave anyway... heck, to this day we've still got schools publicly whining about wanting out. No addition at any point prior to our expansion would have prevented a single defection. Also, the C7 were always going to leave as soon as they got their chance (maybe not a bad thing for us). Bowl games? Exactly how is aresco supposed to FORCE the P5 to play us, if they really want to freeze us out? Heck, I'm impressed he got as many solid P5 ties as he did... way better than anyone else outside the P5 got. His job, as I see it, is to rebuild us into the strongest *possible* conference. And yes Virginia, what we are today is the strongest possible option *at this time*.

Does this mean I'm happy with our situation? No. Does it mean I don't want a P5 ticket as well? Of course not. But it is what it is, and most of what happend was well beyond our control. The P5 picked us clean. But, Aresco got us a fairly stable 12 school lineup, pretty clearly the #6 conference, got us HUGE exposure (matters to recruits), and he took a short deal that can be renegotiated in just a few years.

To anyone willing to be intellectually honest, that's about the real story...

So if there was absolutely nothing that Aresco could have done to get us more media money, get us into AQ status, or get us better bowl bids, or keep schools from defecting, exactly why did we sign him for $1.2 million per year?

FWIW, I agree that nobody short of God could have kept any teams from leaving. That's still true - all of us would leave for a P5 in a nanosecond if invited.

But as "ECU" notes, Aresco was hired and given P5-level money because of his alleged negotiating savvy. He was supposed to have skills to get us good TV money and good bowl bids thanks to his alleged "insider" knowledge of the media negotiating process and his connections with bowl and media people. And he crapped out completely.

If you want to focus on the claim that Aresco is being paid too much, that is the only point I will concede... but I'll note you only know this through the prism of HINDSIGHT. (Always a convenient tool for message board protesters...) To answer your question, when Aresco was hired the 'Big East' clearly thought there was some pipe dream they could prevent the meltdown. They were 100% wrong, and underestimated the total control of ESPN and the P5 conferences. Total control.

I however give the old Big East credit for having the stones to at least fight back, hire someone major league (or at least PAY major league $$), to TRY and bid the TV deal and keep themselves relevant. I guess you feel they should have publicly announced our failure (in advance) and only paid SBC/cUSA level money??? (lol)

Seriously though, if it all boils down to 'we paid Aresco too much'... well, I'll just say it must be the off season. Sheesh. But I do appreciate the acknowledgement finally that only God could have prevented the rest. Because that's pretty much true...
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(03-18-2014 11:49 PM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  
(03-18-2014 03:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-18-2014 01:19 PM)Bull Wrote:  
(03-18-2014 09:21 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-17-2014 07:10 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  I know ppl hate on Aresco, but he's a great ambassador for the conference that understands exposure and talking points.

Problem is, he's all hot air. All hat and no cattle. He talks a big game but in the end, we have a $2.1m media deal, no AQ for major bowls, lousy minor bowls. In other words, he never delivers on the talk.

We've had this argument before, but I'll go ahead and toss it onto this thread too... I'd love, to hear exactly what you or any of the other armchair commissioners would have done differently. Or what you would say differently in any of these interviews.

Every team that left was going to leave anyway... heck, to this day we've still got schools publicly whining about wanting out. No addition at any point prior to our expansion would have prevented a single defection. Also, the C7 were always going to leave as soon as they got their chance (maybe not a bad thing for us). Bowl games? Exactly how is aresco supposed to FORCE the P5 to play us, if they really want to freeze us out? Heck, I'm impressed he got as many solid P5 ties as he did... way better than anyone else outside the P5 got. His job, as I see it, is to rebuild us into the strongest *possible* conference. And yes Virginia, what we are today is the strongest possible option *at this time*.

Does this mean I'm happy with our situation? No. Does it mean I don't want a P5 ticket as well? Of course not. But it is what it is, and most of what happend was well beyond our control. The P5 picked us clean. But, Aresco got us a fairly stable 12 school lineup, pretty clearly the #6 conference, got us HUGE exposure (matters to recruits), and he took a short deal that can be renegotiated in just a few years.

To anyone willing to be intellectually honest, that's about the real story...

So if there was absolutely nothing that Aresco could have done to get us more media money, get us into AQ status, or get us better bowl bids, or keep schools from defecting, exactly why did we sign him for $1.2 million per year?

FWIW, I agree that nobody short of God could have kept any teams from leaving. That's still true - all of us would leave for a P5 in a nanosecond if invited.

But as "ECU" notes, Aresco was hired and given P5-level money because of his alleged negotiating savvy. He was supposed to have skills to get us good TV money and good bowl bids thanks to his alleged "insider" knowledge of the media negotiating process and his connections with bowl and media people. And he crapped out completely.

You go into negotiations with metrics demonstrating the size of your viewership. He did not have these. No bargaining chips. On top of that the perception is that the conference is falling apart. Just where exactly is his bargaining power? I need to hear about this from you or somebody in the know.

We hired him because he allegedly had media bargaining skills and contacts that would help us get a good media deal. Not to make excuses about why he was unable to do so.

All you are saying is that it was a mistake to hire him, because he couldn't do what we hired him to do.
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Another interview with Tuck and O'Neill from March 7

Aresco Interview with Tuck and O'Neill

Brings up the short term TV deal and talks about having the pieces in place to build a great conference.

He discusses what he does on a daily basis.

He discusses the conference vision. Not where we are today, but where we want to be 3-5 years down the road.

But again, he mentions its up to the teams to go out and win and compete and up to the fan bases to be relevant in the markets that they exist in.

Says building rivalries will help build interest in the markets, but it doesn't happen overnight.
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I didn't think much of him back a year ago or so and but I think the guy is staying busy and is very motivated to help this conference achieve great things.
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(03-18-2014 10:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-18-2014 09:21 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  
(03-18-2014 09:21 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-17-2014 07:10 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  I know ppl hate on Aresco, but he's a great ambassador for the conference that understands exposure and talking points.

Problem is, he's all hot air. All hat and no cattle. He talks a big game but in the end, we have a $2.1m media deal, no AQ for major bowls, lousy minor bowls. In other words, he never delivers on the talk.

Are you still here?

Not a bad interview considering that they were pressuring to say that the conference is screwed like you. A good leader does not show this.

A good leader does a lot more than what Aresco has accomplished (essentially, nothing).

Is there anything worst than a whiner 03-hissyfit The kind of leader that is needed is for UofL, Cincy, UConn, and Memphis to go out and win some games. I have UofL as a final four team and If you truly are a two seed, go out and prove it. The same for my Bearcats, let go and prove on the court we are a sweet sixteen or better. I would love for for Memphis, Cincy and UConn to all advance to sweet sixteen. Aresco job is to parlay that into more money for the conference.04-cheers
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(03-19-2014 07:23 AM)Bull Wrote:  
(03-18-2014 03:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-18-2014 01:19 PM)Bull Wrote:  
(03-18-2014 09:21 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-17-2014 07:10 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  I know ppl hate on Aresco, but he's a great ambassador for the conference that understands exposure and talking points.

Problem is, he's all hot air. All hat and no cattle. He talks a big game but in the end, we have a $2.1m media deal, no AQ for major bowls, lousy minor bowls. In other words, he never delivers on the talk.

We've had this argument before, but I'll go ahead and toss it onto this thread too... I'd love, to hear exactly what you or any of the other armchair commissioners would have done differently. Or what you would say differently in any of these interviews.

Every team that left was going to leave anyway... heck, to this day we've still got schools publicly whining about wanting out. No addition at any point prior to our expansion would have prevented a single defection. Also, the C7 were always going to leave as soon as they got their chance (maybe not a bad thing for us). Bowl games? Exactly how is aresco supposed to FORCE the P5 to play us, if they really want to freeze us out? Heck, I'm impressed he got as many solid P5 ties as he did... way better than anyone else outside the P5 got. His job, as I see it, is to rebuild us into the strongest *possible* conference. And yes Virginia, what we are today is the strongest possible option *at this time*.

Does this mean I'm happy with our situation? No. Does it mean I don't want a P5 ticket as well? Of course not. But it is what it is, and most of what happend was well beyond our control. The P5 picked us clean. But, Aresco got us a fairly stable 12 school lineup, pretty clearly the #6 conference, got us HUGE exposure (matters to recruits), and he took a short deal that can be renegotiated in just a few years.

To anyone willing to be intellectually honest, that's about the real story...

So if there was absolutely nothing that Aresco could have done to get us more media money, get us into AQ status, or get us better bowl bids, or keep schools from defecting, exactly why did we sign him for $1.2 million per year?

FWIW, I agree that nobody short of God could have kept any teams from leaving. That's still true - all of us would leave for a P5 in a nanosecond if invited.

But as "ECU" notes, Aresco was hired and given P5-level money because of his alleged negotiating savvy. He was supposed to have skills to get us good TV money and good bowl bids thanks to his alleged "insider" knowledge of the media negotiating process and his connections with bowl and media people. And he crapped out completely.

If you want to focus on the claim that Aresco is being paid too much, that is the only point I will concede... but I'll note you only know this through the prism of HINDSIGHT. (Always a convenient tool for message board protesters...) To answer your question, when Aresco was hired the 'Big East' clearly thought there was some pipe dream they could prevent the meltdown. They were 100% wrong, and underestimated the total control of ESPN and the P5 conferences. Total control.

I however give the old Big East credit for having the stones to at least fight back, hire someone major league (or at least PAY major league $$), to TRY and bid the TV deal and keep themselves relevant. I guess you feel they should have publicly announced our failure (in advance) and only paid SBC/cUSA level money??? (lol)

Seriously though, if it all boils down to 'we paid Aresco too much'... well, I'll just say it must be the off season. Sheesh. But I do appreciate the acknowledgement finally that only God could have prevented the rest. Because that's pretty much true...

You seem to think that by acknowledging that we are overpaying Aresco, you are conceding a trivial thing and that you are otherwise largely correct.

But actually, that's the pretty much the whole ballgame, because any time anyone does a lousy job, what that translates into is that you paid him too much. E.g., if I hire a kid for $30 to shovel snow from my driveway, and he does a bad job - takes forever, leaves lots of ice, etc. - then what happened was I paid him too much for the work he did. And not only that, the implication is that I made an "adverse selection", I should have hired someone else.

That's true of Aresco: We paid (and are paying) too much for him given what he delivered, and we should have hired someone else. You might appreciate the stones of the Big East school Presidents for "going for a home run" when they hired him, but that macho-appeal aside, turns out it was a mistake. We swung and ... missed, like the Lakers being stuck paying broken-down, old Steve Nash $9 million this year for close to zero productivity.

That's not Aresco's fault, of course, it's the fault of those who hired him, but it also doesn't change the fact that hiring him was a mistake.

And as for what else he could have accomplished, you make it seem like it is obvious nobody could have done anything better (I agree, but only with regards to preventing defections). But that implies that Aresco had the perfect set of skills, such that we can assume that "if he couldn't do better, nobody could have". But remember, Aresco was hardly an ideal on-paper commissioner candidate. He was a risky choice. His background was entirely in working for media companies. Had absolutely zero experience working in university athletic departments or conference administration offices. In contrast, successful P5 commissioners like Delany, Slive, and Swofford all served either as ADs at major athletic universities and/or served as commissioners of smaller conferences before getting their P5 gigs. They had experience with the full range of issues that commissioners face, whereas Aresco had skills in one area -media negotiations- and he had those skills on the other side, negotiating for media companies, not conferences. Could a better-qualified all-around candidate produced better results? We'll never know for sure, but there's no reason to think that because a one-trick-pony like Aresco couldn't do better that nobody else could.

As for your "hindsight" complaint, I don't get that, because you can never know in advance of performance whether someone is a good hire, because that is defined by their performance. If the STL Rams draft Bridgewater, can we say on that draft day whether they made a good choice or not? No, we have to wait and see what he does on the field once he starts playing. That's not a "message board protester" tool, it's empirical reality, at least until someone builds a Time Machine.

Truth is, the only contract Aresco has successfully negotiated is .. his own. He used those vaunted bargaining skills to get himself a very sweet deal from the desperate Big East presidents. For the conference? Not nearly so much, not in that negotiation or in subsequent bargaining with the P5, bowls, or media companies.
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(03-19-2014 07:23 AM)Bull Wrote:  
(03-18-2014 03:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-18-2014 01:19 PM)Bull Wrote:  
(03-18-2014 09:21 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-17-2014 07:10 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  I know ppl hate on Aresco, but he's a great ambassador for the conference that understands exposure and talking points.

Problem is, he's all hot air. All hat and no cattle. He talks a big game but in the end, we have a $2.1m media deal, no AQ for major bowls, lousy minor bowls. In other words, he never delivers on the talk.

We've had this argument before, but I'll go ahead and toss it onto this thread too... I'd love, to hear exactly what you or any of the other armchair commissioners would have done differently. Or what you would say differently in any of these interviews.

Every team that left was going to leave anyway... heck, to this day we've still got schools publicly whining about wanting out. No addition at any point prior to our expansion would have prevented a single defection. Also, the C7 were always going to leave as soon as they got their chance (maybe not a bad thing for us). Bowl games? Exactly how is aresco supposed to FORCE the P5 to play us, if they really want to freeze us out? Heck, I'm impressed he got as many solid P5 ties as he did... way better than anyone else outside the P5 got. His job, as I see it, is to rebuild us into the strongest *possible* conference. And yes Virginia, what we are today is the strongest possible option *at this time*.

Does this mean I'm happy with our situation? No. Does it mean I don't want a P5 ticket as well? Of course not. But it is what it is, and most of what happend was well beyond our control. The P5 picked us clean. But, Aresco got us a fairly stable 12 school lineup, pretty clearly the #6 conference, got us HUGE exposure (matters to recruits), and he took a short deal that can be renegotiated in just a few years.

To anyone willing to be intellectually honest, that's about the real story...

So if there was absolutely nothing that Aresco could have done to get us more media money, get us into AQ status, or get us better bowl bids, or keep schools from defecting, exactly why did we sign him for $1.2 million per year?

FWIW, I agree that nobody short of God could have kept any teams from leaving. That's still true - all of us would leave for a P5 in a nanosecond if invited.

But as "ECU" notes, Aresco was hired and given P5-level money because of his alleged negotiating savvy. He was supposed to have skills to get us good TV money and good bowl bids thanks to his alleged "insider" knowledge of the media negotiating process and his connections with bowl and media people. And he crapped out completely.

If you want to focus on the claim that Aresco is being paid too much, that is the only point I will concede... but I'll note you only know this through the prism of HINDSIGHT. (Always a convenient tool for message board protesters...) To answer your question, when Aresco was hired the 'Big East' clearly thought there was some pipe dream they could prevent the meltdown. They were 100% wrong, and underestimated the total control of ESPN and the P5 conferences. Total control.

I however give the old Big East credit for having the stones to at least fight back, hire someone major league (or at least PAY major league $$), to TRY and bid the TV deal and keep themselves relevant. I guess you feel they should have publicly announced our failure (in advance) and only paid SBC/cUSA level money??? (lol)

Seriously though, if it all boils down to 'we paid Aresco too much'... well, I'll just say it must be the off season. Sheesh. But I do appreciate the acknowledgement finally that only God could have prevented the rest. Because that's pretty much true...

Most of us understand that Aresco did the best he could as he was a one man army against the P5 and ESPN. The best hope for the conference lies with the teams getting some BIG TIME wins against the P5. Lets judge Aresco after the teams do their part.05-mafia
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(03-18-2014 10:32 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  Selling the Big East name for exit fees and tournament credits was a great move. ESPN actually talks about the American in their broadcast. Nobody talks about the Big East anymore.

Ding!

And that's just Year 1 of Big East being off ESPN for conf games and conf tourn....image how bad it will be for that conf come Year 3, Year 4, Year 5 and so on.

Remember, quo is just trolling...as I guess he would prefer that Aresco (who has done over 150 plus media interviews and is easily the most accessible commish out there) would remain silent, while his members WON a BCS Bowl and finished ranked in the Top 10, plus had 5 hoop teams ranked in the Top 25.

I'm glad Aresco is out there tooting the horn for the AAC as there is a heck of a lot to crow about in just our first season.
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Quo: Come on, a few million here or there if we overpaid our commish is in relative terms a very minor problem (compared to all our other problems!). Teams, bowls, TV are FAAAAAAR more important to our future. Right now we've got a pretty fat bank account. Grouse about overpaying him, fine, but it's not that important to our immediate future. I'd submit that in regards to all those other issues (those ones we agree only God can control)... Aresco is actually doing as good a job as is humanly possible. You all ridicule him every time he speaks, but he's out there making a good case every time he gets in front of a camera that we can compete with the best. That's what I want in my commish.

As for bridgwater... flawed analogy as you're basing the eval on his performance and that is something that Teddy controls. Better analogy is if the Steelers put a 'hit' on him... again, it's things beyond our control!

As usual, you and I can agree to disagree...
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(03-19-2014 07:41 AM)ECUPirated Wrote:  Another interview with Tuck and O'Neill from March 7

Aresco Interview with Tuck and O'Neill

Brings up the short term TV deal and talks about having the pieces in place to build a great conference.

He discusses what he does on a daily basis.

He discusses the conference vision. Not where we are today, but where we want to be 3-5 years down the road.

But again, he mentions its up to the teams to go out and win and compete and up to the fan bases to be relevant in the markets that they exist in.

Says building rivalries will help build interest in the markets, but it doesn't happen overnight.
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I didn't think much of him back a year ago or so and but I think the guy is staying busy and is very motivated to help this conference achieve great things.

I am probably second only to Quo in being critical of Aresco, but the basketball TV coverage is the first thing that's happened with this league that turned out to not only meet the expectations that he set, but in some ways exceeded them. A big part of the reason I was so negative about him and the job he was doing is that pretty much everything that came out of his mouth not only turned out not to happen but ended up worse than even the biggest skeptics thought. It happened with the TV revenue and then happened even worse with the bowl situation. Even when it started to become obvious we were going to be shut out of every decent bowl he kept trying to spin that it wasn't happening and that we had a great chance to keep tie ins that to everyone was obvious we didn't. That gave off the appearance to me that either he was incompetent, a liar, or some combination of the 2. Now maybe you could argue that he needed to be a rah rah guy even if those of us that follow it closely knew he was basically lying just to try to fool those that don't follow it. The fact this league has performed pretty well on the field and court doesn't surprise me, in fact I'd have been more suprised if it didn't.
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(03-19-2014 09:06 AM)Bull Wrote:  Quo: Come on, a few million here or there if we overpaid our commish is in relative terms a very minor problem (compared to all our other problems!). Teams, bowls, TV are FAAAAAAR more important to our future. Right now we've got a pretty fat bank account. Grouse about overpaying him, fine, but it's not that important to our immediate future. I'd submit that in regards to all those other issues (those ones we agree only God can control)... Aresco is actually doing as good a job as is humanly possible. You all ridicule him every time he speaks, but he's out there making a good case every time he gets in front of a camera that we can compete with the best. That's what I want in my commish.

As for bridgwater... flawed analogy as you're basing the eval on his performance and that is something that Teddy controls. Better analogy is if the Steelers put a 'hit' on him... again, it's things beyond our control!

As usual ...

I think the analogy is spot-on, because nobody has 'control' over their performance, in the sense that your outcomes are strictly the results of your efforts and abilities, your performance is always a function of your efforts (which you do control) and the environment around you, which is often hostile (trying to keep you from achieving your goal). E.g., Teddy's performance - his TD passes, INTs, completion percentage, passing yards, etc. - will be achieved by overcoming the efforts of the defenders trying to stop him, just as Aresco's performance in getting us maximum media dollars, bowl bids, etc. has to be achieved by overcoming the efforts of others (other conferences, media companies, etc.) that are trying to minimize those same things, for their own benefit.

It's a competitive world out there and you have to beat the forces arrayed against you, and that's how your performance is judged.

And IMO, it's clear that the opposition has overwhelmed him.
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(03-19-2014 12:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  And IMO, it's clear that the opposition has overwhelmed him.

You keep saying this, but you provide no other means by which he could have done anything differently. The Big East was dissolving before he got there. Pitt and Syracuse had a foot out the door, WVU was out immediately afterwards. He's done a pretty good job with the hand that was dealt him. No Syracuse, no WVU, no UL, no Pitt, no Rutgers... that pretty much took away all bargaining power he had. He managed to put together a TV deal that may be short on money, but is huge on air time. As far as I'm concerned, he hit a home run there because without a guaranteed playoff birth (was never going to happen) the TV value for football was limited. The basketball conference got damn near as good of air time as the old Big East, but each time got more appearances on ESPN thanks to the conference being smaller.

In the mean time, the Big East may have gotten more money, but got lost in the TV shuffle. Their ratings for their finals were less than half of that of the AAC. They had their games buried on a channel that most casual fans don't even know exists.
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(03-19-2014 12:26 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(03-19-2014 12:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  And IMO, it's clear that the opposition has overwhelmed him.

You keep saying this, but you provide no other means by which he could have done anything differently.

You ask me to prove a counter-factual, which is impossible, since we can't replay history with someone else as the commissioner.

What we DO know is that Aresco was brought in with great fan-fare and a very high, P5-level salary, because of his alleged negotiating skills with media that would bring us big dollars. And what we got was, peanuts for dollars.

And that was in the area he allegedly was an expert in. As i noted earlier, Aresco had NONE of the skills traditionally associated with being a successful conference commissioner. Unlike guys like Delany and Slive, who served as university administrators and then commissioners of lesser conferences, Aresco had no such background, zilch.

The onus is on you to explain why, if Aresco couldn't have done anything differently, did we bother to hire him and at a big-time salary?

It was obviously a big mistake. The Big East gambled on Aresco, and we crapped out. He simply failed to deliver in all the important areas.
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(03-19-2014 01:23 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  You ask me to prove a counter-factual, which is impossible, since we can't replay history with someone else as the commissioner.

What we DO know is that Aresco was brought in with great fan-fare and a very high, P5-level salary, because of his alleged negotiating skills with media that would bring us big dollars. And what we got was, peanuts for dollars.

And that was in the area he allegedly was an expert in. As i noted earlier, Aresco had NONE of the skills traditionally associated with being a successful conference commissioner. Unlike guys like Delany and Slive, who served as university administrators and then commissioners of lesser conferences, Aresco had no such background, zilch.

The onus is on you to explain why, if Aresco couldn't have done anything differently, did we bother to hire him and at a big-time salary?

It was obviously a big mistake. The Big East gambled on Aresco, and we crapped out. He simply failed to deliver in all the important areas.

Aresco negotiated the best non-power 5 TV deal in terms of exposure. It really isn't even close. The money wasn't there... but what do you expect when you backfill with C-USA teams because those were the only options? He walked in with an opportunity to really capitalize on being the last "power conference" to negotiate. A month later the exodus began and by the time he was negotiating for TV he had lost 5 of the 8 schools he began with for football.

It is a good thing that USF isn't in the Big East now because without any TV exposure, which is what the case would be there, USF would have zero chance of turning around their program. USF has a fighting chance because they can offer kids the opportunity to play a ton of games on ESPN, and the rest on CBS. It really is a good deal.
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