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I've never understood that if Calkins is a "Harvard Graduate" (said in my best Thurston Howell III accent), then why in the hell is he in this back water, southern river town instead of NY, Boston, DC, etc........ He's a low level loser who's seemingly found a way (at least in his eyes) to be a big fish in a small pond because he can't hack it where his college peers play. The CA is a relic of times gone by and back in the day they were really the lessor paper compared to the Press Scimitar. I'm looking for the Tigers to play in at least the sweet 16 and that means beating GW and Virginia both. I don't even care what Calkins and his minions have to say about the weather, much less something on the level of Tiger basketball.
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(03-17-2014 08:09 PM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  Where did we start the season ranked and where did Virginia start?

And those rankings, just like the number *'s by a players name in high school don't mean anything after tipoff. But having seniors who play with passion does.
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(03-17-2014 08:09 PM)Chi-TownTiger Wrote:  Where did we start the season ranked and where did Virginia start?

Memphis 13
Virginia 24 or 25
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(03-17-2014 08:56 PM)JCraft Wrote:  I've never understood that if Calkins is a "Harvard Graduate" (said in my best Thurston Howell III accent), then why in the hell is he in this back water, southern river town instead of NY, Boston, DC, etc........ He's a low level loser who's seemingly found a way (at least in his eyes) to be a big fish in a small pond because he can't hack it where his college peers play. The CA is a relic of times gone by and back in the day they were really the lessor paper compared to the Press Scimitar. I'm looking for the Tigers to play in at least the sweet 16 and that means beating GW and Virginia both. I don't even care what Calkins and his minions have to say about the weather, much less something on the level of Tiger basketball.

You nailed it. The Press Scimitar was the premier paper here with the best reporters. The CA is just a washed-up, pared-down rag on its last leg. I haven't read it in 25 years, since I realized it was sold out to its advertisers and its reporting was, shall I put it nicely, "skewed", because of it.

I hope they fold. F' em.
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This is a top 25 job and that comes with pressure. I don't think this is odd. Every 'elite' program (of which we are one, if second tier not 'top 8' tier) is a pressure job.

The man makes a ton of cash and the reason is that the boosters, fans, etc expect winning.

I actually think Pastner welcomes this pressure and enjoying coaching a team that matters. He could take a job with less pressure, but that would be a huge step down in pay, prestige, ability to recruit, etc.
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Josh did what he thought was best His perogative as it was a no win situation The CA pimps the Grizz and sells cars No good article would have come from the interviews and the players would have been flamed by the few readers the CA has left I think CJP made a wise decision
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(03-17-2014 10:37 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(03-17-2014 08:56 PM)JCraft Wrote:  I've never understood that if Calkins is a "Harvard Graduate" (said in my best Thurston Howell III accent), then why in the hell is he in this back water, southern river town instead of NY, Boston, DC, etc........ He's a low level loser who's seemingly found a way (at least in his eyes) to be a big fish in a small pond because he can't hack it where his college peers play. The CA is a relic of times gone by and back in the day they were really the lessor paper compared to the Press Scimitar. I'm looking for the Tigers to play in at least the sweet 16 and that means beating GW and Virginia both. I don't even care what Calkins and his minions have to say about the weather, much less something on the level of Tiger basketball.

You nailed it. The Press Scimitar was the premier paper here with the best reporters. The CA is just a washed-up, pared-down rag on its last leg. I haven't read it in 25 years, since I realized it was sold out to its advertisers and it's reporting was, shall I put it nicely, "skewed", because of it.

I hope they fold. F' em.

Never understood people's dislike for media (as a whole, certainly understand specific people) either.

Is the CA that bad? When I have read it visiting, it seems no better or worse than papers in other cities.
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(03-17-2014 07:38 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(03-17-2014 05:19 PM)UofMark Wrote:  You want extensive, pro team type coverage, you got it.

The pro team is struggling to make the playoffs in a league where over half the teams are eligible and yet the volume of criticism toward the pro team by the local media is muted by comparison. The double standard reigns in the Bluff City.

The Grizzlies would be a top 3 seed in the Eastern Conference. They are merely a victim of the vagrancies of conference alignment.

The Tigers are criticized more because people CARE more. The Tigers are THE flagship team in Memphis, win or lose. The Grizzlies are well loved, but a clear #2.

The criticism of the Tigers is more b/c the fan base is far more invested I feel.

Just my opinion. I love both, but if given the option of only reading about 1, it's Tigers all day, every day. And if both teams are having bad years, I am still watching Memphis and ignoring Grizz...
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(03-17-2014 10:41 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(03-17-2014 10:37 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(03-17-2014 08:56 PM)JCraft Wrote:  I've never understood that if Calkins is a "Harvard Graduate" (said in my best Thurston Howell III accent), then why in the hell is he in this back water, southern river town instead of NY, Boston, DC, etc........ He's a low level loser who's seemingly found a way (at least in his eyes) to be a big fish in a small pond because he can't hack it where his college peers play. The CA is a relic of times gone by and back in the day they were really the lessor paper compared to the Press Scimitar. I'm looking for the Tigers to play in at least the sweet 16 and that means beating GW and Virginia both. I don't even care what Calkins and his minions have to say about the weather, much less something on the level of Tiger basketball.

You nailed it. The Press Scimitar was the premier paper here with the best reporters. The CA is just a washed-up, pared-down rag on its last leg. I haven't read it in 25 years, since I realized it was sold out to its advertisers and it's reporting was, shall I put it nicely, "skewed", because of it.

I hope they fold. F' em.

Never understood people's dislike for media (as a whole, certainly understand specific people) either.

Is the CA that bad? When I have read it visiting, it seems no better or worse than papers in other cities.

I don't dislike media as a whole. I have a daughter in the newspaper business. I hate it that no one seems to be able to spell or proofread these days, but...

Maybe you don't consider the CA "bad" because you never knew when it was really "good." There is a reason that most Memphians no longer consider it a product worth paying for, beyond the fact that most print media is struggling because of the digital age. I have lived in two other cities, and their newspapers were better.

Like I said, we lost the best newspaper we had here, and the CA has existed with no competition for decades. It buys a lot of canned news, which you can get anywhere.
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(03-18-2014 12:38 AM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(03-17-2014 10:41 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(03-17-2014 10:37 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(03-17-2014 08:56 PM)JCraft Wrote:  I've never understood that if Calkins is a "Harvard Graduate" (said in my best Thurston Howell III accent), then why in the hell is he in this back water, southern river town instead of NY, Boston, DC, etc........ He's a low level loser who's seemingly found a way (at least in his eyes) to be a big fish in a small pond because he can't hack it where his college peers play. The CA is a relic of times gone by and back in the day they were really the lessor paper compared to the Press Scimitar. I'm looking for the Tigers to play in at least the sweet 16 and that means beating GW and Virginia both. I don't even care what Calkins and his minions have to say about the weather, much less something on the level of Tiger basketball.

You nailed it. The Press Scimitar was the premier paper here with the best reporters. The CA is just a washed-up, pared-down rag on its last leg. I haven't read it in 25 years, since I realized it was sold out to its advertisers and it's reporting was, shall I put it nicely, "skewed", because of it.

I hope they fold. F' em.

Never understood people's dislike for media (as a whole, certainly understand specific people) either.

Is the CA that bad? When I have read it visiting, it seems no better or worse than papers in other cities.

I don't dislike media as a whole. I have a daughter in the newspaper business. I hate it that no one seems to be able to spell or proofread these days, but...

Maybe you don't consider the CA "bad" because you never knew when it was really "good." There is a reason that most Memphians no longer consider it a product worth paying for, beyond the fact that most print media is struggling because of the digital age. I have lived in two other cities, and their newspapers were better.

Like I said, we lost the best newspaper we had here, and the CA has existed with no competition for decades. It buys a lot of canned news, which you can get anywhere.

Fair points all. I only read the sports section in the CA anyway and only since the '90s, and only at the holidays when I am home to visit the fam.
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Any USC level jobs opening up?


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Quote:Pat Forde calls Memphis one of his "Fraudulent Five" in his NCAA Tournament overview. Forde writes: "Nobody questions the Tigers' talent. Everybody questions their focus and attention to detail. Nineteen-point loss on home floor in conference tournament was enough to scare most folks off the bandwagon."

Ummmm.....NO!
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Quote:Joe was really good in practice Friday, on Saturday and (Monday). I really like where Joe’s at (mentally). The last three days he’s been a chatterbox. When he’s talking and got some fire in him, you can just see it. To me, that’s healthy.

Can you just imagine JJ a chatterbox? 03-lmfao
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(03-17-2014 08:05 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  
(03-17-2014 06:12 PM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  I didn't know anyone read the CA any more.

What did they say?

They are mad he closed the NCAA seedings team function.

Act like you've been there before. This is the first time in a long time that we didn't have to sweat to be selected other than as an automatic qualifier in a one bid league. All this fuss for 10 seconds of screen time?
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A college basketball coach is taking heat? I'm shocked. Shocked!

Basketball and football coaches are the highest paid public employees in this country for a reason, and there are a hundred people willing to take the job if he doesn't like the heat.

Stop rolling out that cr*p product we all saw Thursday night, and this all goes away.

Having said that, I like our coach, and I hope he's around Memphis for a long, long time.
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(03-18-2014 06:42 AM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  Any USC level jobs opening up?


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I surmise more money with less pressure and plentiful resources appeals to Pastner right now. The media and some fans are doing their best to drive him away with the negativity he despises.
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(03-17-2014 05:13 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  First "pressure to win for city and conference" article by Calkins day of UConn game.

Today CA mad because Josh shut them out of Selection Sunday viewing:

Margin of defeats article McMilllan

Calkins Take 5 leads with:

"In many ways, it sets up exactly like last year. Memphis gets an off-brand team in the first round that it should be able to handle (last year St. Mary's, this year George Washington). Then Memphis gets a superbly-coached, highly-ranked state school in the second round (last year Michigan State, this year Virginia)."

The Vegas line is 2 1/2.

Jason Smith's Insider article today on Pastner and criticism:

"His answer to that question was three minutes of rambling, which I've transcribed below for your reading pleasure(?):" Don't think Jason was harsh but sarcastic.

This is just a example of negative press coverage past few weeks. You would never see this in Austin, TX or Oklahoma City; cities roughly comparable in college basketball.

Please tell me this is a joke. The local paper treats the Tigers incredibly well. They have 5 different columnists writing articles on the basketball program this week. You think Pastner doesn't use that level of coverage as a recruiting tool? Any negative press Pastner gets he has brought on himself.
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Quote:This is just a example of negative press coverage past few weeks. You would never see this in Austin, TX

Ask Mack Brown about that. Some of those press conferences were painful and I couldn't care less about Texas football.
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On a lighter note, we're paying about $3 million less than UK for the same seed.
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