Love it! Lose the arguement move the entire string to smack.

Par for the MTSU course. This is an embarrassment.

(03-17-2014 04:08 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Of those of you criticizing this decision if it were your school would your take be different if you had a championship caliber season, was the only one of the four snubbed by one of the two major tournaments and sent on the road as the highest rated team in either tournament would you also bad mouth your own team or would you understand? Just curious since I doubt there is a single one of you who would be saying the same things if it were your school. Some of you are being great conference mates. We get the short end of the stick in the postseason picture and all you can seem to do is pile on.

Been there. Done that. Got the Hawaii bowl tee shirt

(03-17-2014 04:20 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 04:08 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Of those of you criticizing this decision if it were your school would your take be different if you had a championship caliber season, was the only one of the four snubbed by one of the two major tournaments and sent on the road as the highest rated team in either tournament would you also bad mouth your own team or would you understand? Just curious since I doubt there is a single one of you who would be saying the same things if it were your school. Some of you are being great conference mates. We get the short end of the stick in the postseason picture and all you can seem to do is pile on.

You get the short end of the stick and take your ball and go home. Is that the message college athletics is supposed to be sending. , we didn't get what we wanted,

Those tournaments are a joke, don't understand why you insist on validating them. This isn't about quitting or not getting what we want, this is about not wanting to play in a meaningless tournament that no one cares about. We weren't the first to make this decision, we weren't the only ones to do it this year and this trend will only continue and these joke tournaments will be disbanded and they will be fforgottenin short order.

(03-17-2014 03:50 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 03:38 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 03:23 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  For those of you saying this tournament is not a joke, go to a sports bar this weekend and ask 100 basketball fans to name one team that has ever won either tournament. Ask them to name any teams in either tournament this year.

These tournaments are a joke, if you want your school in them, that's your prerogative, but you aren't convincing me these tournaments mean anything or will even be around in ten years.

Like I said before, MTSU as a basketball school, is in no position to talk. I'm guessing, half the schools in the cbi have more ncaa appearances than only 7

1. No position to talk about what? Being able to make a decision that's in our best interest?

2. Six of the 16 schools have more NCAA appearances, so closer to a third not half, but even if it were half I'm not sure what this has do with anything. No one is saying because we have x number of NCAA appearances the CBI is beneath us. We played in the CBI four our five years ago. This time around they didn't want to do it. So, what's the problem?

You have NO position to be critical of teams playing in the tournament just because your players were upset about getting snubbed. Second, there are 6 teams who have a better bball history than you in the tournament and 3 additional schools who have pretty much the same history as MTSU.

UTEP fans for the most part don't like these tournaments, but most UTEP fans this year, are happy that we're giving these players a chance to play, and I agree. Considering the circumstances that surrounded the team this year, I am happy to see these players play together again.

Obviously, our players wanted to continue and persevere through this season and maybe the MTSU players didn't, I'm not going to say that's a good call or not, but you aren't the judge of rather a person should quit or keep on playing. Only the players and coaches know that and your players decided to make a statement.

After it is all said and done, and after all that happened this season, I'm glad our team will continue to play. They deserve it!

(03-17-2014 04:08 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 03:57 PM)TeKERaider Wrote:  I was giving you too much credit and assumed you would at least only go to the least embarassing of the two which only has 16 teams. But like I said if you would pay good money to go play Brown, Columbia and Canisius that knock yourself out. Heck they would have probably taken you over Columbia if you had just stroked the check.

Read my post above and lose the pompous attitude; you're defending an indefensable position. You're no better or worse than any of the other schools you listed. It's an opportunity to put your team colors on the floor one more time. Your school chose not to play, fine, but stop trying to make bogus arguements in support of this selfish decision.

A selfish decision would have been wasting school resources to participate in a faux post season. I didn't like it when we did it in the past. I am happy we chose not to do it this time. I will be equally mad if we make a different decision next time. There are 100 chances to earn a post season berth if we don't get one of those we should stay home. Period.

(03-17-2014 04:25 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  Love it! Lose the arguement move the entire string to smack.

Par for the MTSU course. This is an embarrassment.

Who lost the argument?

Also, I didn't move the thread jack wagon, I'd be careful with your accusations.

(03-17-2014 04:29 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 04:25 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  Love it! Lose the arguement move the entire string to smack.
Par for the MTSU course. This is an embarrassment.

Who lost the argument?
Also, I didn't move the thread jack wagon, I'd be careful with your accusations.

Then move it back jack ball. And who said 'you' moved it?

And be careful of what? -2 rep points?

(03-17-2014 04:27 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 03:50 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 03:38 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 03:23 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  For those of you saying this tournament is not a joke, go to a sports bar this weekend and ask 100 basketball fans to name one team that has ever won either tournament. Ask them to name any teams in either tournament this year.

These tournaments are a joke, if you want your school in them, that's your prerogative, but you aren't convincing me these tournaments mean anything or will even be around in ten years.

Like I said before, MTSU as a basketball school, is in no position to talk. I'm guessing, half the schools in the cbi have more ncaa appearances than only 7

1. No position to talk about what? Being able to make a decision that's in our best interest?

2. Six of the 16 schools have more NCAA appearances, so closer to a third not half, but even if it were half I'm not sure what this has do with anything. No one is saying because we have x number of NCAA appearances the CBI is beneath us. We played in the CBI four our five years ago. This time around they didn't want to do it. So, what's the problem?

You have NO position to be critical of teams playing in the tournament just because your players were upset about getting snubbed. Second, there are 6 teams who have a better bball history than you in the tournament and 3 additional schools who have pretty much the same history as MTSU.

UTEP fans for the most part don't like these tournaments, but most UTEP fans this year, are happy that we're giving these players a chance to play, and I agree. Considering the circumstances that surrounded the team this year, I am happy to see these players play together again.

Obviously, our players wanted to continue and persevere through this season and maybe the MTSU players didn't, I'm not going to say that's a good call or not, but you aren't the judge of rather a person should quit or keep on playing. Only the players and coaches know that and your players decided to make a statement.

After it is all said and done, and after all that happened this season, I'm glad our team will continue to play. They deserve it!

Nobody is telling you that your team shouldn't play. This entire thread is going because some idiots were calling our guys quitters for not wanting to play in a meaningless tournament which is silly. I bet if you guys win(I like your odds) you don't hang a banner.

MT fans; I understand your disappointment and support for their decision. But can you please explain why this 24-9 team didn't draw better at the gate?

(03-17-2014 04:32 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 04:29 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 04:25 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  Love it! Lose the arguement move the entire string to smack.
Par for the MTSU course. This is an embarrassment.

Who lost the argument?
Also, I didn't move the thread jack wagon, I'd be careful with your accusations.

Then move it back jack ball. And who said 'you' moved it?

And be careful of what? -2 rep points?

I'm the only MT mod, so you were accusing me of moving it, anyhow when you have an issue with the way this board is moderated, take it to PM.

Tell me more about your hilarious mission statement if you were MT's president...

(03-17-2014 04:39 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 04:32 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 04:29 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 04:25 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  Love it! Lose the arguement move the entire string to smack.
Par for the MTSU course. This is an embarrassment.

Who lost the argument?
Also, I didn't move the thread jack wagon, I'd be careful with your accusations.

Then move it back jack ball. And who said 'you' moved it?

And be careful of what? -2 rep points?

I didn't move it and I'm the only MT mod, so you were accusing me of moving it, anyhow when you have an issue with the way this board is moderated, take it to PM.

Tell me more about your hilarious mission statement if you were MT's president...

I moved it. It's already enough. The kids chose not to play. Live with it. Respect their decision.

(03-17-2014 04:39 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I didn't move it and I'm the only MT mod, so you were accusing me of moving it, anyhow when you have an issue with the way this board is moderated, take it to PM.
Tell me more about your hilarious mission statement if you were MT's president...

Also, tell me why your school is the only one 'too good' to turn down a post-season invite. On second thought, save it, I've heard enough b.s. for one day.

Quote:MT fans; I understand your disappointment and support for their decision. But can you please explain why this 24-9 team didn't draw better at the gate?

First and foremost we just don't have a great fan base for a school our size. No excuses. That is the main reason. Secondary to that was most fans were expecting a big drop from the year before so most fans sat on the fence to start the season. Couple that with a weak schedule compared to previous years and bad loses to Belmont and maine early on and you get what we had. Lack of familiarity with some of the new conference mates probably made a small impact. WKU boosts our attendance quite a bit and vice versa. Throw in the 10k we had for them and Vandy the before and our average for the rest of the games probably wasn't that different.

(03-17-2014 04:45 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 04:39 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I didn't move it and I'm the only MT mod, so you were accusing me of moving it, anyhow when you have an issue with the way this board is moderated, take it to PM.
Tell me more about your hilarious mission statement if you were MT's president...

Also, tell me why your school is the only one 'too good' to turn down a post-season invite. On second thought, save it, I've heard enough b.s. for one day.

I already took credit for it.

(03-17-2014 04:45 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 04:39 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I didn't move it and I'm the only MT mod, so you were accusing me of moving it, anyhow when you have an issue with the way this board is moderated, take it to PM.
Tell me more about your hilarious mission statement if you were MT's president...

Also, tell me why your school is the only one 'too good' to turn down a post-season invite. On second thought, save it, I've heard enough b.s. for one day.

We weren't the only school. IU, Ole Miss and WKU are a couple of other ones.

(03-17-2014 04:44 PM)DxfanMiner Wrote:  I moved it. It's already enough. The kids chose not to play. Live with it. Respect their decision.

Who are you to remove a conversation/discussion. If yuo feel one side or the other is getting the worst of it, then say that and give fair warning. Don't just hop up and be judge, jury and executioner in one fell swoop because you feel like it.

(03-17-2014 04:49 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 04:44 PM)DxfanMiner Wrote:  I moved it. It's already enough. The kids chose not to play. Live with it. Respect their decision.

Who are you to remove a conversation/discussion. If yuo feel one side or the other is getting the worst of it, then say that and give fair warning. Don't just hop up and be judge, jury and executioner in one fell swoop because you feel like it.

I moved bickering when it belonged in the bickering section.

(03-17-2014 04:45 PM)TeKERaider Wrote:  First and foremost we just don't have a great fan base for a school our size. No excuses. That is the main reason. Secondary to that was most fans were expecting a big drop from the year before so most fans sat on the fence to start the season. Couple that with a weak schedule compared to previous years and bad loses to Belmont and maine early on and you get what we had. Lack of familiarity with some of the new conference mates probably made a small impact. WKU boosts our attendance quite a bit and vice versa. Throw in the 10k we had for them and Vandy the before and our average for the rest of the games probably wasn't that different.

Fair enough. Say you can't afford it or whatever but some of the MTSU fans are belittling the schools who choose to attend and denegrating the tournaments. That's just sour grapes and reflects poorly on your school. And I'm sure if it's this bad here it must be 10 times worse on the MTSU fan site(s).

(03-17-2014 04:52 PM)DxfanMiner Wrote:  I moved bickering when it belonged in the bickering section.

so now you're the judge of what good taste is on this board; or was this just an arbitrary decision you decided to make. I'm guessing the later in this instance.

(03-17-2014 04:52 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 04:45 PM)TeKERaider Wrote:  First and foremost we just don't have a great fan base for a school our size. No excuses. That is the main reason. Secondary to that was most fans were expecting a big drop from the year before so most fans sat on the fence to start the season. Couple that with a weak schedule compared to previous years and bad loses to Belmont and maine early on and you get what we had. Lack of familiarity with some of the new conference mates probably made a small impact. WKU boosts our attendance quite a bit and vice versa. Throw in the 10k we had for them and Vandy the before and our average for the rest of the games probably wasn't that different.

Fair enough. Say you can't afford it or whatever but some of the MTSU fans are belittling the schools who choose to attend and denegrating the tournaments. That's just sour grapes and reflects poorly on your school. And I'm sure if it's this bad here it must be 10 times worse on the MTSU fan site(s).

That was regarding the ODU question. We could have afforded it and if our players had chosen to play we unfortunately probably would have. Fortunately our team made the right decision and last I checked this got started because guys like you called our players quitters. I would have been content to pretend these tourneys had value if it weren't for guys like you calling our players quitters. I guess if my team had a post season ban any tournament would look good to me too.