(03-17-2014 11:17 AM)MHSCard Wrote:  Look it is not me that should be upsetting you. I am just letting you know that the opinion is that Wellmans committee was either setting this up on purpose or was so completely clueless about college sports that they wrecked this draw so horribly that people are taking offense. It is only a reflection on what a horrible job Wellmans leadership caused in this case. And that may or may not comeback to hurt your schools program. If you should be up set with anyone it is him for screwing this up so bad. Lets be honest it is not the first bad job he has done. I mean come on surely you must question some of the decisions of your Athletics dept. Or are you pleased with the current state?
It is not like this is an off the wall idea. Jay Bilas, Doug Gottlieb, Dino G, Dukkie V. and a host of others point out that only twice in history has a team been in the consensus top 10 and been given a 4 seed. Both times it was Louisville. Most people in the media agree we should have been a 2 or 3 seed and most believe UK should have been a 6 or 7. SMU was left out and all the AAC teams got lower seeds than they were expected to get and three of 4 are in the same bracket. Guess which conference did not have a member on Wellmans committee.. AAC got shafted. It was not just Louisville this committee screwed the whole conference and if they can do it to the AAC today they can do it to the ACC in football or baseball or basketball in the future. This was unsportsmanlike to do what they did to the AAC teams that did not have a voice.

You are borderline insane and you insult WF at your own stupid risk. You seem to forget your real conference affiliation in favor of one season with the also-rans. Keep running your mouth and then look at your football and basketball schedule for 2015. You might be surprised at how many short weeks you have prior to meeting Duke in basketball or FSU and Clemson in football.

(03-17-2014 09:27 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  You have lost your mind. "Bracket of Death"? ? Most pundits have you winning this bracket you drunken fool. You have the weakest number 1 Wichita State, and the weakest number 3 Duke, and the weakest number 2, Michigan.

Interesting that the Coaches Poll has 4 of the top 8 in the country in the Midwest region.

(03-17-2014 11:28 AM)ken d Wrote:  I saw an interesting read in USA Today in which they listed 10 things the selection committee got wrong. Louisville's seeding did not make the list. Gasp! That must mean they (USA Today) were in on the conspiracy! I wonder how they made it past the guards and into the sequestered conference room where the committee was plotting against Louisville.

Inquiring minds want to know.

You talking this article:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/03/louisvil...nt-4-seed/

We are blaming wake Forest's Wellman (he did not want Louisville in the ACC to start with!) Pay back is coming!

(03-17-2014 01:25 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 11:28 AM)ken d Wrote:  I saw an interesting read in USA Today in which they listed 10 things the selection committee got wrong. Louisville's seeding did not make the list. Gasp! That must mean they (USA Today) were in on the conspiracy! I wonder how they made it past the guards and into the sequestered conference room where the committee was plotting against Louisville.

Inquiring minds want to know.

You talking this article:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/03/louisvil...nt-4-seed/

This is the part of the article that nailed it for me:

Why are the Cardinals so low? The team’s strength of schedule wasn’t great and the AAC competition wasn’t nearly as tough as last year’s Big East. Losses to UNC, Kentucky and Memphis in big games were a consideration in the seeding. But if the “eye test” existed, Louisville would have been a No. 1, with ease. They’re the hottest team in the country right now.

All that being said, there should be no tears in Kentucky tonight. Louisville getting a No. 4 in the Midwest is the best thing that could have happened to the team’s chances to repeat.

Wouldn’t the Cardinals much rather be a No. 4 in a sub-region with Wichita State and an erratic Duke team then the No. 2 seed in, say, Florida’s region? It’s not even close. The committee may have hurt Louisville numerically, but their draw is one of the best for any title contenders."

(03-17-2014 01:43 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 01:25 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 11:28 AM)ken d Wrote:  I saw an interesting read in USA Today in which they listed 10 things the selection committee got wrong. Louisville's seeding did not make the list. Gasp! That must mean they (USA Today) were in on the conspiracy! I wonder how they made it past the guards and into the sequestered conference room where the committee was plotting against Louisville.

Inquiring minds want to know.

You talking this article:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/03/louisvil...nt-4-seed/

This is the part of the article that nailed it for me:

Why are the Cardinals so low? The team’s strength of schedule wasn’t great and the AAC competition wasn’t nearly as tough as last year’s Big East. Losses to UNC, Kentucky and Memphis in big games were a consideration in the seeding. But if the “eye test” existed, Louisville would have been a No. 1, with ease. They’re the hottest team in the country right now.

All that being said, there should be no tears in Kentucky tonight. Louisville getting a No. 4 in the Midwest is the best thing that could have happened to the team’s chances to repeat.

Wouldn’t the Cardinals much rather be a No. 4 in a sub-region with Wichita State and an erratic Duke team then the No. 2 seed in, say, Florida’s region? It’s not even close. The committee may have hurt Louisville numerically, but their draw is one of the best for any title contenders."

Totally agree! Just speaking personally, I've got nothing against WF's AD. He was just the face of the committee. Could have been anybody. But to say we weren't shafted in seeding is just false.
Found this little nugget from CardGame (tremendous stats. Poster on scout)

Quote:Only two teams in the 36-year history of seeding the NCAA Tournament have been ranked in the top 5 of the final AP poll and seeded below a 3-seed:

2005 Louisville
2014 Louisville

We have a history of getting jobbed by the selection committee. Could be the reason emotions are a little high.

It's all good though. Best of luck to everyone!

The way I look at it...gotta beat the Field anyway...just gave us even more motivation to keep the Title on Floyd Street....

I'd say it's a good thing that Louisville is joining the ACC. At least now NC State won't feel so alone in thinking people are out to get them.

(03-17-2014 02:12 PM)ken d Wrote:  I'd say it's a good thing that Louisville is joining the ACC. At least now NC State won't feel so alone in thinking people are out to get them.

Just because we're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get us.

Ok. Wake Forest

(03-17-2014 02:12 PM)ken d Wrote:  I'd say it's a good thing that Louisville is joining the ACC. At least now NC State won't feel so alone in thinking people are out to get them.

Nah...we are both the Hunted and Hunters...67 other NCAA Tournament Teams want what we currently have and feeling a little dissed and back in Hunters mold....

(03-17-2014 01:31 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:   We are blaming wake Forest's Wellman (he did not want Louisville in the ACC to start with!) Pay back is coming!

False

Prove it!

(03-17-2014 12:47 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 11:17 AM)MHSCard Wrote:  Look it is not me that should be upsetting you. I am just letting you know that the opinion is that Wellmans committee was either setting this up on purpose or was so completely clueless about college sports that they wrecked this draw so horribly that people are taking offense. It is only a reflection on what a horrible job Wellmans leadership caused in this case. And that may or may not comeback to hurt your schools program. If you should be up set with anyone it is him for screwing this up so bad. Lets be honest it is not the first bad job he has done. I mean come on surely you must question some of the decisions of your Athletics dept. Or are you pleased with the current state?
It is not like this is an off the wall idea. Jay Bilas, Doug Gottlieb, Dino G, Dukkie V. and a host of others point out that only twice in history has a team been in the consensus top 10 and been given a 4 seed. Both times it was Louisville. Most people in the media agree we should have been a 2 or 3 seed and most believe UK should have been a 6 or 7. SMU was left out and all the AAC teams got lower seeds than they were expected to get and three of 4 are in the same bracket. Guess which conference did not have a member on Wellmans committee.. AAC got shafted. It was not just Louisville this committee screwed the whole conference and if they can do it to the AAC today they can do it to the ACC in football or baseball or basketball in the future. This was unsportsmanlike to do what they did to the AAC teams that did not have a voice.

You are borderline insane and you insult WF at your own stupid risk. You seem to forget your real conference affiliation in favor of one season with the also-rans. Keep running your mouth and then look at your football and basketball schedule for 2015. You might be surprised at how many short weeks you have prior to meeting Duke in basketball or FSU and Clemson in football.

Geez where to start. First of all Florida State and Duke got screwed in this too. So I don't see them coming to defend this committee. I don't see how me saying Wake Forests AD was either crooked or stupid will bother them. And I have said from the beginning this is not about hate for Wake Forest. This is about a man that happens to work for Wake Forest doing an awful job either on purpose or because he was awful at it. Either way it is not about hate for Wake in general if he was the AD at Northwestern I would say the same. He screwed up. Also how does it feel to have to call on FSU or Duke to fight your imagined battles? Maybe if you had a better AD you could talk about how Wake is going to kick our upstart behinds... But again I have nothing against Wake or Wake fans. If you read I am warning them that their AD is the one upsetting folks no one hates Wake, how could we, they have never done anything to us on the field to cause any ill will.

The AAC is not the conference of my future. That is for sure but UConn, Cincy and Memphis teams I love to hate are also teams that play pretty good ball. UConn is 3 years from a national title. To act like those teams don't play good ball and to undercut them loading thwm up in one bracket and seeding low because the AAC did not get a rep this year is bad for the system. What if the ACC gets locked out and teams from our conference get pushed out due to politics in the future? That is a bad precedent to set for the game! I am all in for the ACC, but playing dirty is still dirty.

The American, The Big East, and The A10, plus the P5 make up the best college basketball conferences. The American's image problem is totally football rooted.

Damn straight Wilkie! The ACC is/will be the best bb conference and we also are strong in football and Baseball, but Basketball is not like football. Good basketball conferences exisit outside of the football schools. The NCAA tourny should never be as exclusive as the football system.

This thread is getting very interesting.

(03-17-2014 04:02 PM)MHSCard Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 12:47 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(03-17-2014 11:17 AM)MHSCard Wrote:  Look it is not me that should be upsetting you. I am just letting you know that the opinion is that Wellmans committee was either setting this up on purpose or was so completely clueless about college sports that they wrecked this draw so horribly that people are taking offense. It is only a reflection on what a horrible job Wellmans leadership caused in this case. And that may or may not comeback to hurt your schools program. If you should be up set with anyone it is him for screwing this up so bad. Lets be honest it is not the first bad job he has done. I mean come on surely you must question some of the decisions of your Athletics dept. Or are you pleased with the current state?
It is not like this is an off the wall idea. Jay Bilas, Doug Gottlieb, Dino G, Dukkie V. and a host of others point out that only twice in history has a team been in the consensus top 10 and been given a 4 seed. Both times it was Louisville. Most people in the media agree we should have been a 2 or 3 seed and most believe UK should have been a 6 or 7. SMU was left out and all the AAC teams got lower seeds than they were expected to get and three of 4 are in the same bracket. Guess which conference did not have a member on Wellmans committee.. AAC got shafted. It was not just Louisville this committee screwed the whole conference and if they can do it to the AAC today they can do it to the ACC in football or baseball or basketball in the future. This was unsportsmanlike to do what they did to the AAC teams that did not have a voice.

You are borderline insane and you insult WF at your own stupid risk. You seem to forget your real conference affiliation in favor of one season with the also-rans. Keep running your mouth and then look at your football and basketball schedule for 2015. You might be surprised at how many short weeks you have prior to meeting Duke in basketball or FSU and Clemson in football.

Geez where to start. First of all Florida State and Duke got screwed in this too. So I don't see them coming to defend this committee. I don't see how me saying Wake Forests AD was either crooked or stupid will bother them. And I have said from the beginning this is not about hate for Wake Forest. This is about a man that happens to work for Wake Forest doing an awful job either on purpose or because he was awful at it. Either way it is not about hate for Wake in general if he was the AD at Northwestern I would say the same. He screwed up. Also how does it feel to have to call on FSU or Duke to fight your imagined battles? Maybe if you had a better AD you could talk about how Wake is going to kick our upstart behinds... But again I have nothing against Wake or Wake fans. If you read I am warning them that their AD is the one upsetting folks no one hates Wake, how could we, they have never done anything to us on the field to cause any ill will.

The AAC is not the conference of my future. That is for sure but UConn, Cincy and Memphis teams I love to hate are also teams that play pretty good ball. UConn is 3 years from a national title. To act like those teams don't play good ball and to undercut them loading thwm up in one bracket and seeding low because the AAC did not get a rep this year is bad for the system. What if the ACC gets locked out and teams from our conference get pushed out due to politics in the future? That is a bad precedent to set for the game! I am all in for the ACC, but playing dirty is still dirty.

Lumberpack4 is an NC State fan, so apparently the Wolfpack is fighting our imagined battles.

Please continue spinning your lame conspiracy theories.

My mistake. WTF is a Wolfpack fan doing getting upset that I called out Wellman for doing a terrible job? Seems random. Either way I don't think Duke or FSU are going to be upset that Louisville is upset at Wake's AD. If he and you decide to be upset with me telling you this is the case then you might as well be mad at the Weather man forecasting the weather. I am just telling you what I am seeing.

Yeah cause it is all in my head, no sane person thinks this way..
http://www.wdrb.com/story/24990308/bozic...les-4-seed
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/03/louisvil...nt-4-seed/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...s/6507359/
http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketba...ms-bracket
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...es-process
http://fansided.com/2014/03/16/2014-ncaa...ed/#!AhFD6