Has Houston even fired Dickey yet?

I think you guys should have gave Mike Dunlap, former Charlotte Bobcats coach a serious look. Loyola Marymount just hired him though so you snoozed.

He was 248-50 in D2 and won two national championships as a head coach so I think he knows how to run and sustain a college program. That's similar to coaches like Bo Ryan and he had also been an assistant at Arizona and St. John's. He was let go after one season with Charlotte but they did make improvements with about the same roster and as a coach and with the NBA pedigree would have been able to get some quality recruits IMO.

(03-18-2014 11:50 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:42 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:34 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:22 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 10:43 AM)chrisiskingx Wrote:  THANK GOD he didn't go to USF or HOU...

It would make the UCF basketball gap that much bigger between the 2 already mentioned....

I mean SMU is here to stay with Larry Brown...Could only wonder what Pearl would have done with these programs.

I understand what you're saying but post-Louisville I think we need another program to step up and I think Pearl would have provided that, like Larry Brown, at either of those schools. God knows, what's coming in isn't going to do it.

True. I think it's just lots of 'sour grapes' from certain fans on this board.

some folks dislike liars and cheats...

Mempiss does'nt. They have a long and storied history involving those exact types.

Long and storied? Kirk and Calipari in basketball and nobody in football, in about 100 years of each sport? What about Dean Ehlers, Bob Vanatta, Gene Bartow, Larry Finch, etc.?

Ya know, if you're gonna troll, you need better stuff..

So who does USF and Houston even want.

Two of the higher caliber somewhat realistic names in Pearl and Dunlap are off the board. I don't think the Marquette guy will leave. Kennedy might but I kind of doubt that one as well.

Who's even out there beyond the usual crop of perceived up and comers like the NC Central's coach as well as retreads like Jeff Capel and Pelphry that you guys would even want.

BC, VaTech, and Washington State jobs just opened up as well. Hopefully USF finds their coach soon before more schools become available.

I think a guy like Lonergan at George Washington would be a more realistic than the Marquette or Ole Miss coach.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Lonergan

48 years old, won a D3 National Championship, won at Vermont, and just took George Washington to the NCAA's. Probably a guy BC would be looking at.

(03-18-2014 03:12 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  BC, VaTech, and Washington State jobs just opened up as well. Hopefully USF finds their coach soon before more schools become available.

Problem is, our job is inferior to all of those. And anyone who thinks a coach is going to leave a storied basketball program like Marquette or an SEC team like Ole Miss for us is dreaming.

We need to find a 'diamond in the rough' coach, but I suspect our admins aren't capable of doing that.

(03-18-2014 02:39 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Has Houston even fired Dickey yet?

I think you guys should have gave Mike Dunlap, former Charlotte Bobcats coach a serious look. Loyola Marymount just hired him though so you snoozed.

He was 248-50 in D2 and won two national championships as a head coach so I think he knows how to run and sustain a college program. That's similar to coaches like Bo Ryan and he had also been an assistant at Arizona and St. John's. He was let go after one season with Charlotte but they did make improvements with about the same roster and as a coach and with the NBA pedigree would have been able to get some quality recruits IMO.

Dunlap was the coach at my alma mater, Metro State-Denver... Agreed, VERY good coach...

(03-18-2014 11:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:50 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:42 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:34 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:22 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  I understand what you're saying but post-Louisville I think we need another program to step up and I think Pearl would have provided that, like Larry Brown, at either of those schools. God knows, what's coming in isn't going to do it.

True. I think it's just lots of 'sour grapes' from certain fans on this board.

some folks dislike liars and cheats...

Mempiss does'nt. They have a long and storied history involving those exact types.

I wasn't alive for Dana, so whatever...I've read (from the nova players) about Nova snorting blow in the locker room before our Final Four.

Sounds like football/basketball in the 80s was full of cheats, liars, and drugs.

Before my time.

I'm just glad you can spell "mempiss" UAB even screwed that up.

Good one there, I commend you sir.

(03-18-2014 11:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:50 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:42 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:34 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:22 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  I understand what you're saying but post-Louisville I think we need another program to step up and I think Pearl would have provided that, like Larry Brown, at either of those schools. God knows, what's coming in isn't going to do it.

True. I think it's just lots of 'sour grapes' from certain fans on this board.

some folks dislike liars and cheats...

Mempiss does'nt. They have a long and storied history involving those exact types.

I wasn't alive for Dana, so whatever...I've read (from the nova players) about Nova snorting blow in the locker room before our Final Four.

Sounds like football/basketball in the 80s was full of cheats, liars, and drugs.

Before my time.

I'm just glad you can spell "mempiss" UAB even screwed that up.

Good one there, I commend you sir.

(03-18-2014 02:48 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:50 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:42 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:34 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:22 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  I understand what you're saying but post-Louisville I think we need another program to step up and I think Pearl would have provided that, like Larry Brown, at either of those schools. God knows, what's coming in isn't going to do it.

True. I think it's just lots of 'sour grapes' from certain fans on this board.

some folks dislike liars and cheats...

Mempiss does'nt. They have a long and storied history involving those exact types.

Long and storied? Kirk and Calipari in basketball and nobody in football, in about 100 years of each sport? What about Dean Ehlers, Bob Vanatta, Gene Bartow, Larry Finch, etc.?

Ya know, if you're gonna troll, you need better stuff..

UM is the only program in ncaa history to have not one, but two final fours vacated. I would say that is pretty storied to say the least.

(03-18-2014 12:34 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  [

(03-18-2014 12:25 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 12:10 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:45 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  If Pearl is at Auburn, perhaps he will schedule Cincinnati OOC. Peal's daughter is Bearcat Cheerleader.

I hope Memphis doesn't schedule them. We don't need to give Pearl an additional 'in' into the Memphis recruiting market. On the other hand, I no longer have any problem scheduling Tennessee in basketball (as long as we get football games out of it also.)

You know our "football AD" (Tom Bowen) will schedule them if they agree to play us home - home in football. That's the deal with BOTH Ole Miss and TN as I understand.

Of course I think it will be awhile before we have to concern ourselves with Pearl's recruiting again ---- unless he brings in Forbes as his assistant - which could happen.

Well he'll recruit Memphis no matter what. Pearl will go after the same players we go after. I agree, we should make it as difficult as possible for him in Memphis and surroundings but he'll recruit the south well. No way to prevent that.

(03-18-2014 03:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 03:12 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  BC, VaTech, and Washington State jobs just opened up as well. Hopefully USF finds their coach soon before more schools become available.

Problem is, our job is inferior to all of those. And anyone who thinks a coach is going to leave a storied basketball program like Marquette or an SEC team like Ole Miss for us is dreaming.

We need to find a 'diamond in the rough' coach, but I suspect our admins aren't capable of doing that.

First off you know nothing about our new administration.
Secondly sure those three are in P5 conferences but the chances of winning at all three are less likely in those conferences than USF in the AAC.
You are going to be very surprised these are new days at USF.

(03-18-2014 05:09 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 03:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 03:12 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  BC, VaTech, and Washington State jobs just opened up as well. Hopefully USF finds their coach soon before more schools become available.

Problem is, our job is inferior to all of those. And anyone who thinks a coach is going to leave a storied basketball program like Marquette or an SEC team like Ole Miss for us is dreaming.

We need to find a 'diamond in the rough' coach, but I suspect our admins aren't capable of doing that.

First off you know nothing about our new administration.
Secondly sure those three are in P5 conferences but the chances of winning at all three are less likely in those conferences than USF in the AAC.
You are going to be very surprised these are new days at USF.

You win at places like USF so that you get noticed by schools like VT, Ole Miss and Marquette. They are stepping-stones up from us. That's the reality, ask Seth Greenberg.

As for our admins, I was thinking of Mark Harlan. Even though he comes to us from UCLA, his background is as a football guy, and he seems to know a lot more about football than basketball, and it will take a real basketball guy to find a coaching diamond among the alternatives we can realistically attract.

(03-18-2014 05:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 05:09 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 03:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 03:12 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  BC, VaTech, and Washington State jobs just opened up as well. Hopefully USF finds their coach soon before more schools become available.

Problem is, our job is inferior to all of those. And anyone who thinks a coach is going to leave a storied basketball program like Marquette or an SEC team like Ole Miss for us is dreaming.

We need to find a 'diamond in the rough' coach, but I suspect our admins aren't capable of doing that.

First off you know nothing about our new administration.
Secondly sure those three are in P5 conferences but the chances of winning at all three are less likely in those conferences than USF in the AAC.
You are going to be very surprised these are new days at USF.

You win at places like USF so that you get noticed by schools like VT, Ole Miss and Marquette. They are stepping-stones up from us. That's the reality, ask Seth Greenberg.

As for our admins, I was thinking of Mark Harlan. Even though he comes to us from UCLA, his background is as a football guy, and he seems to know a lot more about football than basketball, and it will take a real basketball guy to find a coaching diamond among the alternatives we can realistically attract.

Really? At UClA? Who do you think worked in getting Steve Alford to UCLA.
As for Greenberg he was ready to go from USF because the old administration did nothing to upgrade the basketball program, no renovated Sun Dome, no indoor practice facilities. He ended up at VTech because he was fed up with the USF lack of support.
Now answer this question what did he do at VTech? What did the guy that replaced him did at VTech? VTech is a basketball coach graveyard in the ACC

(03-18-2014 05:47 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 05:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 05:09 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 03:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 03:12 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  BC, VaTech, and Washington State jobs just opened up as well. Hopefully USF finds their coach soon before more schools become available.

Problem is, our job is inferior to all of those. And anyone who thinks a coach is going to leave a storied basketball program like Marquette or an SEC team like Ole Miss for us is dreaming.

We need to find a 'diamond in the rough' coach, but I suspect our admins aren't capable of doing that.

First off you know nothing about our new administration.
Secondly sure those three are in P5 conferences but the chances of winning at all three are less likely in those conferences than USF in the AAC.
You are going to be very surprised these are new days at USF.

You win at places like USF so that you get noticed by schools like VT, Ole Miss and Marquette. They are stepping-stones up from us. That's the reality, ask Seth Greenberg.

As for our admins, I was thinking of Mark Harlan. Even though he comes to us from UCLA, his background is as a football guy, and he seems to know a lot more about football than basketball, and it will take a real basketball guy to find a coaching diamond among the alternatives we can realistically attract.

Really? At UClA? Who do you think worked in getting Steve Alford to UCLA.
As for Greenberg he was ready to go from USF because the old administration did nothing to upgrade the basketball program, no renovated Sun Dome, no indoor practice facilities. He ended up at VTech because he was fed up with the USF lack of support.
Now answer this question what did he do at VTech? What did the guy that replaced him did at VTech? VTech is a basketball coach graveyard in the ACC

Yes, really. You don't need basketball acumen to get a good coach to come to UCLA, because that is freaking UCLA. Good coaches beat a path to your door. We're not UCLA.

Don't get me wrong: I like that Harlan is a football guy and think he's a good hire. Basketball and football are both broken, but football is just all-around the more important sport, so it's more important that football get fixed sooner. Harlan seems capable of doing that.

As for Greenberg, he flopped at VT, but that doesn't matter either, because the point is that he left USF for VT and would do it again if he could. An ACC, any ACC job, is just better than USF.

(03-18-2014 11:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:50 AM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:42 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:34 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 11:22 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  I understand what you're saying but post-Louisville I think we need another program to step up and I think Pearl would have provided that, like Larry Brown, at either of those schools. God knows, what's coming in isn't going to do it.

True. I think it's just lots of 'sour grapes' from certain fans on this board.

some folks dislike liars and cheats...

Mempiss does'nt. They have a long and storied history involving those exact types.

I wasn't alive for Dana, so whatever...I've read (from the nova players) about Nova snorting blow in the locker room before our Final Four.

Sounds like football/basketball in the 80s was full of cheats, liars, and drugs.

Before my time.

I'm just glad you can spell "mempiss" UAB even screwed that up.

Drew, you're on the right side of this argument about Pearl. I'm a little embarrassed that any Tiger fan would be interested in the guy.

...and for those that asked, he has Tony Matlock as a carryover from Barbee's staff if he wants to hit Memphis recruits hard; and I'm sure he does.

(03-18-2014 06:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 05:47 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 05:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 05:09 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(03-18-2014 03:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Problem is, our job is inferior to all of those. And anyone who thinks a coach is going to leave a storied basketball program like Marquette or an SEC team like Ole Miss for us is dreaming.

We need to find a 'diamond in the rough' coach, but I suspect our admins aren't capable of doing that.

First off you know nothing about our new administration.
Secondly sure those three are in P5 conferences but the chances of winning at all three are less likely in those conferences than USF in the AAC.
You are going to be very surprised these are new days at USF.

You win at places like USF so that you get noticed by schools like VT, Ole Miss and Marquette. They are stepping-stones up from us. That's the reality, ask Seth Greenberg.

As for our admins, I was thinking of Mark Harlan. Even though he comes to us from UCLA, his background is as a football guy, and he seems to know a lot more about football than basketball, and it will take a real basketball guy to find a coaching diamond among the alternatives we can realistically attract.

Really? At UClA? Who do you think worked in getting Steve Alford to UCLA.
As for Greenberg he was ready to go from USF because the old administration did nothing to upgrade the basketball program, no renovated Sun Dome, no indoor practice facilities. He ended up at VTech because he was fed up with the USF lack of support.
Now answer this question what did he do at VTech? What did the guy that replaced him did at VTech? VTech is a basketball coach graveyard in the ACC

Yes, really. You don't need basketball acumen to get a good coach to come to UCLA, because that is freaking UCLA. Good coaches beat a path to your door. We're not UCLA.

Don't get me wrong: I like that Harlan is a football guy and think he's a good hire. Basketball and football are both broken, but football is just all-around the more important sport, so it's more important that football get fixed sooner. Harlan seems capable of doing that.

As for Greenberg, he flopped at VT, but that doesn't matter either, because the point is that he left USF for VT and would do it again if he could. An ACC, any ACC job, is just better than USF.

Disagree but I'm not wasting one more second arguing this point with you