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ACC/Big XII Collaborate to Deregulate Conference Football Title Game...
From the article on CBS Sports:

The ACC has submitted NCAA legislation that would “deregulate” football conference championship games sources told CBSSports.com.

The intent is to allow leagues their preference in how to determine their conference champion. It would theoretically eliminate the need -- per NCAA rules -- to split into divisions with the division winners meeting in a conference championship game.

That would benefit the ACC and other conferences which have expanded to the requisite minimum of 12 teams (and two divisions) to stage a championship game. Theoretically, with passage of the legislation, any of those conferences could play in one division and still stage a championship game.

If the new legislation is adopted a league could match its two highest-ranked teams. That might enahnce a conference's ability to get as many teams as possible into the new four-team playoff.

"Theoretically, we could say we're going to take the two highest in the BCS rankings and have them play at the end of the season," Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby said.

ESPN.com first reported last month the league's intent to forward such legislation that would give the ACC “flexibility” in who plays in its conference title game. The legislation was submitted in collaboration with the Big 12, Bowlsby said Friday night.


From the Kansas State President and Big XII Commish:

"You wouldn't any longer have to have 12 (teams)," Bowlsby said. "You wouldn't any longer have to play a full round-robin in your subdivision. That would actually afford us the opportunity to have a playoff between two selected teams by whatever process we would want to select.

"I doubt we're going to do that but we would likely have the prerogative."

Kansas State president Kirk Schulz reiterated that stance: “The Big 12, with 10 schools, we have no desire to go to a divisional format. But there's been questions about, generally, should we have some sort of championship game or not? I think it's going to be interesting to see what happens to this proposal.”

The Big 12 plays a true round-robin schedule. It could match its two highest-ranked teams for a championship instead of, say, the winners of two five-team divisions. However, such a structure would guarantee that those Big 12 teams would be meeting for second time in a season.

“To me,” Schulz said, “playing a team a second time in a season is just odd.”


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And another reason the AAC should have stayed at 10 schools.
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RE: ACC/Big XII Collaborate to Deregulate Conference Football Title Game...
The Big 12 has been trying this for over a year.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...title-game

Quote:"At a time when lots of deregulation is taking place, it seems a little bit odd that the NCAA would be describing how we determine our champions," Bowlsby said Wednesday night, when he watched the Iowa State-Oklahoma State men's basketball game.
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RE: ACC/Big XII Collaborate to Deregulate Conference Football Title Game...
(03-16-2014 09:44 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  The Big 12 has been trying this for over a year.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...title-game

Quote:"At a time when lots of deregulation is taking place, it seems a little bit odd that the NCAA would be describing how we determine our champions," Bowlsby said Wednesday night, when he watched the Iowa State-Oklahoma State men's basketball game.

If this goes through and now I think it will...Realignment might really come to a HALT...and this point it would be best for the AAC to just work on more $$$$ from TV when the ESPN Deal is up...
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RE: ACC/Big XII Collaborate to Deregulate Conference Football Title Game...
Yep. That would stop the music and the rush for the empty chairs. Bring on D4 and it would start the slow march to oblivion for the entire gang left standing.
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RE: ACC/Big XII Collaborate to Deregulate Conference Football Title Game...
(03-16-2014 09:50 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 09:44 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  The Big 12 has been trying this for over a year.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...title-game

Quote:"At a time when lots of deregulation is taking place, it seems a little bit odd that the NCAA would be describing how we determine our champions," Bowlsby said Wednesday night, when he watched the Iowa State-Oklahoma State men's basketball game.

If this goes through and now I think it will...Realignment might really come to a HALT...and this point it would be best for the AAC to just work on more $$$$ from TV when the ESPN Deal is up...

Could be just the opposite. One reason the Pac12 won't expand is because one division would lose games against familiar foes by being locked into divisional games with newbie additions. Without divisions, the annual affect on any one schools individual schedule is not nearly as significant. There would not be 6 locked in annual divisional games every year. Instead, the schedule would look more like an incomplete round robin of the entire league. The same is true for the Big12. Expansion in the Big12 would mean schools would rarely miss out on playing Texas and Oklahoma if the existing divisional play requirements are nixed.
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(03-16-2014 09:50 AM)Maize Wrote:  If this goes through and now I think it will...Realignment might really come to a HALT...and this point it would be best for the AAC to just work on more $$$$ from TV when the ESPN Deal is up...

Maybe a temporary halt, but there will always be the noisy programs in G5 conferences that win at high rates, build a national following, and thus put pressure on the P5 conferences to include them in an effort to increase their TV revenue (see Big 12 taking TCU).

So long as a move can be made that will positively effect the pocketbooks of the P5 member schools, realignment will continue
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RE: ACC/Big XII Collaborate to Deregulate Conference Football Title Game...
(03-16-2014 09:50 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 09:44 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  The Big 12 has been trying this for over a year.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...title-game

Quote:"At a time when lots of deregulation is taking place, it seems a little bit odd that the NCAA would be describing how we determine our champions," Bowlsby said Wednesday night, when he watched the Iowa State-Oklahoma State men's basketball game.

If this goes through and now I think it will...Realignment might really come to a HALT...and this point it would be best for the AAC to just work on more $$$$ from TV when the ESPN Deal is up...

Maybe/maybe not if it allows for conferences to have odd numbers, pods, or even a conference playoff... It really depends on how each particular conference wants to format itself. There would be lots of new possibilities.
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RE: ACC/Big XII Collaborate to Deregulate Conference Football Title Game...
(03-16-2014 09:50 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 09:44 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  The Big 12 has been trying this for over a year.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...title-game

Quote:"At a time when lots of deregulation is taking place, it seems a little bit odd that the NCAA would be describing how we determine our champions," Bowlsby said Wednesday night, when he watched the Iowa State-Oklahoma State men's basketball game.

If this goes through and now I think it will...Realignment might really come to a HALT...and this point it would be best for the AAC to just work on more $$$$ from TV when the ESPN Deal is up...

I thought realignment had already come to a halt. This only furthers the notion that the only conference (except for the PAC with UT&OU) that could expand, the Big12, is not expanding. I don't think Texas or OU are against a CCG, but they aren't willing to add more mouths to the table to get one. So, if the other B12 schools want a CCG, they have to do it this way. But seriously, I don't see any more movement until UT and OU are ready to blow up the B12 and G5.
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I think this puts much less pressure on conferences to expand. Also, given the current climate within the NCAA, I think they give approval to this plan to keep schools from breaking away from them completely.
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RE: ACC/Big XII Collaborate to Deregulate Conference Football Title Game...
(03-16-2014 09:58 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 09:50 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 09:44 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  The Big 12 has been trying this for over a year.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...title-game

Quote:"At a time when lots of deregulation is taking place, it seems a little bit odd that the NCAA would be describing how we determine our champions," Bowlsby said Wednesday night, when he watched the Iowa State-Oklahoma State men's basketball game.

If this goes through and now I think it will...Realignment might really come to a HALT...and this point it would be best for the AAC to just work on more $$$$ from TV when the ESPN Deal is up...

Maybe/maybe not if it allows for conferences to have odd numbers, pods, or even a conference playoff... It really depends on how each particular conference wants to format itself. There would be lots of new possibilities.

Yup. Pods could make a far western all sports division in the AAC very viable. In fact, a supersized best of the rest AAC could be what Aresco had in mind when he was talking about the AAC goal of being the 6th power conference. I could see a best of the rest super conference being included in D4.
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And that 6th could very well happen in the near future with a merger of AAC, MWC programs. Take the best 14.
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(03-16-2014 10:03 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  In fact, a supersized best of the rest AAC could be what Aresco had in mind when he was talking about the AAC goal of being the 6th power conference.

It could also be what he had in mind in his choice of "American" for the conference name.
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The SEC will demand their input and make their own modifications before this goes through. The SEC wants to modify things so that they can get MULTIPLE SEC teams into the 4 team playoff. They will certainly not be for anything that allows easier access for an ACC or B12 team to get in.
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we might actually need this more than than the acc ...

when we start divisions next year, we dont want a 8win division champ knocking off a 11win ranked regular season champ eliminating us from the access bowl when there was a 10 win decent team in the same division

im not even sure how i feel about conference championship games especially as g5 teams. everyone says not playing a conference championship this year is not gonna be good for us. i disagree because now we have a chance to have multiple options to be selected from.

p5 conference championship games are a definite plus as it will likely be versus a top 10 team and dramatic sos boost and perception boost to potentially hurdle you to playoffs. us not so much. if we can schedule decent ooc that will be all we need. no offense to everyone (including myself as a houston fan) but beating an aac team even a good one isnt a perception boost on a national level. nothing to gain and everything to lose
my example, NIU last year: BGSU was a 10 win decent team last year but do you honestly think NIU would have gotten any perception boost beating them? NO, if niu didnt play them would they have been in a bcs? yes
same goes for Houston in 2011

we should more focus on scheduling decent ooc for everyone. instead of setting up an all or nothing game that could cost the league millions

the 1mil a year divided among the entire conference isnt worth it, and if they cant guarantee CBS, ABC or FOX every year the media attention isnt worth it (currently isnt, ESPN most years, ABC on rare occasions)
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REALLY hope this happens
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This is just bull**** to keep the G5 out of the playoff and everyone here is eating it up like it's a great thing. OPEN YOUR ******* EYES!


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(03-16-2014 01:01 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  This is just bull**** to keep the G5 out of the playoff and everyone here is eating it up like it's a great thing. OPEN YOUR ******* EYES!


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Yep...open your eyes...no one wants Memphis or ECU.

If this happens...Cincy and UConn are stuck here and we can grow this conference.

I'm so sick and tired of realignment.
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(03-16-2014 09:42 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  And another reason the AAC should have stayed at 10 schools.

That is becoming clearer with each new scam the P5 is pushing.
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Just dump Navy for USM or add Wichita State as non-fb member and call it a day


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