(03-15-2014 09:31 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 08:47 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  First choice is Army.

Add two good all other sports from A10 to match with Army.
Then add MAC schools all-sports N.Illinois,Buffalo and UMass.
AAC needs to be more than old CUSA south.

I dont think the MAC schools are a good match. They are all driving distance from one another with 60 years of rivalry history and still only average 15K a game as a conference.

None of the schools that he mentioned are "in driving distance from one another with 60 years of rivalry history" ... they are two schools that joined in the late 90's and one FB only school that joined the season before this last.

(03-15-2014 01:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 11:47 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 11:16 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  The American still needs these four (4) schools to reach sixteen (16) teams:

Who's gonna wanna be in their division. The AAC should have stayed at 11 or picked up Georgia State. They are smack in the middle of the footprint, good recruiting, easy airport, major market, facilities, etc. Tulsa has a ceiling.

Georgia State? You really must be kidding. Sure, Tulsa isn't a school likely to be the leagues bell cow powerhouse. That said, they are not likely to be a complete embarrassment either. Tulsa is a strong academic performer that will consistently field solid teams that can compete in the league. Georgia State is nowhere near that level yet---and may never reach it. Im not saying they wont---Im just saying its no certainty. That said---if Georgia St builds their athletic program to the point they look to be a good AAC fit---Im sure there will be plenty of support within the league for their addition.

As for who is going to be in a western division with Boise, SDSU, BYU, and Fresno---how about Houston, SMU, Tulsa, and Tulane?

I could see the American as a national conference . The Texas schools could play in either Coast. UNLV brings a big market great place for conference tournament . Their football is bad but a new sixty thousand seat dome and the right coach will fix that.The California schools bring strong recruiting and markets.

(03-16-2014 07:45 AM)panama Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 11:16 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  The American still needs these four (4) schools to reach sixteen (16) teams:

A nationwide conference only makes sense if the tv dollars are there. Eventually you are going to get sick of flying the volleyball team 1800 miles and 2 connections for half their conference schedule.

Can a sixteen team conference play OLY sports almost exclusively in division? Playing fourteen West or East conference games with four cross over makes for less travel. That would be two random trips outside of the division.

(03-16-2014 11:10 AM)MJG Wrote:  

(03-16-2014 07:45 AM)panama Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 11:16 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  The American still needs these four (4) schools to reach sixteen (16) teams:

A nationwide conference only makes sense if the tv dollars are there. Eventually you are going to get sick of flying the volleyball team 1800 miles and 2 connections for half their conference schedule.

Can a sixteen team conference play OLY sports almost exclusively in division? Playing fourteen West or East conference games with four cross over makes for less travel. That would be two random trips outside of the division.

Basketball would travel cross country. I imagine you would play eeryone once, and maybe do a home and home with select divisional rivals. Non-revenue sports would be largely limited to divisional play.

(03-15-2014 11:16 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  The American still needs these four (4) schools to reach sixteen (16) teams:

Please....not again. One circus was enough.

After a 12 team Conf the next best would be an 18 team Conf. That gives you 2 perfect Divisions of a round robin format with no crossover games until the Championship.

(03-16-2014 11:10 AM)MJG Wrote:  Can a sixteen team conference play OLY sports almost exclusively in division? Playing fourteen West or East conference games with four cross over makes for less travel. That would be two random trips outside of the division.

Surely ... BBall doesn't require formal divisions, you could split into four four-team groups, play a single round robin and three group games home and away for an 18 game conference schedule. And many men's non-revenue sports won't have a full complement of sixteen teams ... the women's sports that are likely to be a full complement like soccer or volleyball could well have division-centric or regionalized scheduling.

The obstacle to the proposed realignment is more that a majority of the schools slated there have no interest, nor any objective reason to develop an interest, in joining the American. Its just playing imaginary games of Conference Realignment Risk.

Given that they wouldn't be interested in joining, it would be silly for the American conference to pursue them.

(03-15-2014 03:09 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 10:58 AM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  Comments from Aresco about the AAC and conference realignment

Link

Man it gets old hearing the AAC pretend to be something they are not. If AAC is a power conference, so is the MAC and MWC. Aresco looks like a fool. Thompson and Steinbrecher aren't running around blabbing all the time acting like that.

MAC is not a power conference. End of story.

(03-16-2014 11:01 AM)MJG Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 01:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 11:47 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 11:16 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  The American still needs these four (4) schools to reach sixteen (16) teams:

Who's gonna wanna be in their division. The AAC should have stayed at 11 or picked up Georgia State. They are smack in the middle of the footprint, good recruiting, easy airport, major market, facilities, etc. Tulsa has a ceiling.

Georgia State? You really must be kidding. Sure, Tulsa isn't a school likely to be the leagues bell cow powerhouse. That said, they are not likely to be a complete embarrassment either. Tulsa is a strong academic performer that will consistently field solid teams that can compete in the league. Georgia State is nowhere near that level yet---and may never reach it. Im not saying they wont---Im just saying its no certainty. That said---if Georgia St builds their athletic program to the point they look to be a good AAC fit---Im sure there will be plenty of support within the league for their addition.

As for who is going to be in a western division with Boise, SDSU, BYU, and Fresno---how about Houston, SMU, Tulsa, and Tulane?

I could see the American as a national conference . The Texas schools could play in either Coast. UNLV brings a big market great place for conference tournament . Their football is bad but a new sixty thousand seat dome and the right coach will fix that.The California schools bring strong recruiting and markets.

I read somewhere that SMU has in interest in going west. They want to stay in the Central and Eastern Time Zones.

(03-16-2014 02:52 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(03-16-2014 11:01 AM)MJG Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 01:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 11:47 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 11:16 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  The American still needs these four (4) schools to reach sixteen (16) teams:

Who's gonna wanna be in their division. The AAC should have stayed at 11 or picked up Georgia State. They are smack in the middle of the footprint, good recruiting, easy airport, major market, facilities, etc. Tulsa has a ceiling.

Georgia State? You really must be kidding. Sure, Tulsa isn't a school likely to be the leagues bell cow powerhouse. That said, they are not likely to be a complete embarrassment either. Tulsa is a strong academic performer that will consistently field solid teams that can compete in the league. Georgia State is nowhere near that level yet---and may never reach it. Im not saying they wont---Im just saying its no certainty. That said---if Georgia St builds their athletic program to the point they look to be a good AAC fit---Im sure there will be plenty of support within the league for their addition.

As for who is going to be in a western division with Boise, SDSU, BYU, and Fresno---how about Houston, SMU, Tulsa, and Tulane?

I could see the American as a national conference . The Texas schools could play in either Coast. UNLV brings a big market great place for conference tournament . Their football is bad but a new sixty thousand seat dome and the right coach will fix that.The California schools bring strong recruiting and markets.

I read somewhere that SMU has in interest in going west. They want to stay in the Central and Eastern Time Zones.

That is correct

(03-16-2014 12:24 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 10:10 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 03:44 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 03:09 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 10:58 AM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  Comments from Aresco about the AAC and conference realignment

Link

Man it gets old hearing the AAC pretend to be something they are not. If AAC is a power conference, so is the MAC and MWC. Aresco looks like a fool. Thompson and Steinbrecher aren't running around blabbing all the time acting like that.

Then you have not been listening to Thompson for the last 6 years. Didn't he say the MW was an AQ conference and should be considered one?

Thompson said that when UU, TCU, and BYU were still in the MWC.

He said that in 2011 and 2012.

And 2013 when the MWC actually appealed to the BCS to be considered an AQ conference.

(03-16-2014 02:03 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  The obstacle to the proposed realignment is more that a majority of the schools slated there have no interest, nor any objective reason to develop an interest, in joining the American. Its just playing imaginary games of Conference Realignment Risk.

Given that they wouldn't be interested in joining, it would be silly for the American conference to pursue them.

I agree... I think is silly... I don't see the interest or necessity fromthe AAC side to pursue this... If the AAC wanted to add an additional member, It most likely be a basketball athletic program... Who??? I have no idea... But I hope is one between these two or perhaps even both.

Dayton
Wichita State

(03-16-2014 07:42 AM)panama Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 01:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 11:47 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 11:16 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  The American still needs these four (4) schools to reach sixteen (16) teams:

Who's gonna wanna be in their division. The AAC should have stayed at 11 or picked up Georgia State. They are smack in the middle of the footprint, good recruiting, easy airport, major market, facilities, etc. Tulsa has a ceiling.

Georgia State? You really must be kidding. Sure, Tulsa isn't a school likely to be the leagues bell cow powerhouse. That said, they are not likely to be a complete embarrassment either. Tulsa is a strong academic performer that will consistently field solid teams that can compete in the league. Georgia State is nowhere near that level yet---and may never reach it. Im not saying they wont---Im just saying its no certainty. That said---if Georgia St builds their athletic program to the point they look to be a good AAC fit---Im sure there will be plenty of support within the league for their addition.

As for who is going to be in a western division with Boise, SDSU, BYU, and Fresno---how about Houston, SMU, Tulsa, and Tulane?

Will you be up on Selection Sunday seeing where your school is seeded? I will.

THANKS

Ouch dude, I don't believe in jinxing your team that much but that loss to the Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns of the University of Louisiana at Lafayette of Louisiana was really tough. The Panthers has a great season so I hope that the Belt can get two bids but I haven't seen any bracketology updates to that end. I really wish y'all had won so we could be spared another week of discussing the proper appellation for the collegiate equivalent of the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. Fingers crossed for y'all.

(03-16-2014 04:29 PM)Tron1013 Wrote:  

(03-16-2014 07:42 AM)panama Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 01:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 11:47 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(03-15-2014 11:16 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  The American still needs these four (4) schools to reach sixteen (16) teams:

Who's gonna wanna be in their division. The AAC should have stayed at 11 or picked up Georgia State. They are smack in the middle of the footprint, good recruiting, easy airport, major market, facilities, etc. Tulsa has a ceiling.

Georgia State? You really must be kidding. Sure, Tulsa isn't a school likely to be the leagues bell cow powerhouse. That said, they are not likely to be a complete embarrassment either. Tulsa is a strong academic performer that will consistently field solid teams that can compete in the league. Georgia State is nowhere near that level yet---and may never reach it. Im not saying they wont---Im just saying its no certainty. That said---if Georgia St builds their athletic program to the point they look to be a good AAC fit---Im sure there will be plenty of support within the league for their addition.

As for who is going to be in a western division with Boise, SDSU, BYU, and Fresno---how about Houston, SMU, Tulsa, and Tulane?

Will you be up on Selection Sunday seeing where your school is seeded? I will.

THANKS

Ouch dude, I don't believe in jinxing your team that much but that loss to the Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns of the University of Louisiana at Lafayette of Louisiana was really tough. The Panthers has a great season so I hope that the Belt can get two bids but I haven't seen any bracketology updates to that end. I really wish y'all had won so we could be spared another week of discussing the proper appellation for the collegiate equivalent of the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. Fingers crossed for y'all.

No way are MWC sdst,boise st fresno stand independent joining the aac.