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RE: If Louisville wins the AAC tournament, do they deserve a No. 1 seed?
Like I said Cincy, Memphis and UConn are all good teams, I am just saying Louisville is peaking now and playing great. We have an NBA lottery pick in Montrezl and gritty senior leadership in our All American guard Russ Smith, last years National Championship game MOP in senior Luke Hancock and quality guard play by all our guards. We are tough in March. Not unbeatable but who really wants to see us in their path?
03-15-2014 07:29 PM
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RE: If Louisville wins the AAC tournament, do they deserve a No. 1 seed?
(03-15-2014 07:11 PM)MHSCard Wrote:  
(03-15-2014 07:02 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(03-15-2014 05:03 PM)MHSCard Wrote:  
(03-15-2014 04:47 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 11:55 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  Everybody else keeps losing so I'm just asking?

Not only no but hell no! And any reasonable UL fan would agree. UL most impressive OOC win was against USM. You can't put UL ahead of Zona, Wichita, Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin, or Duke.
Cause Louisville has no history beating Duke, Florida, Wichita and Michigan in the last few runs to the Final Four. Oh wait.. 03-nutkick

You don't earn #1 seeds based on history. You earn it based on results for the season and UL did not do enough to warrant a #1 seed even if the eye test says otherwise. But if you want to use the eye test, Kansas deserves a #1 seed but the Jayhawks aren't going to be a #1 seed. And Kansas resume is much more impressive than UL.

That said, UL is a fine team and like last year squad, you're probably going to be a 3-seed again.
Kansas just lost by 11. IF history means nothing why do UNC, Kansas, Duke always seem to get a bounce. Pitino and other well coached teams always peak late and that is a reason why they give credence to the last 12 games. Louisville is 4 in the BPI, the BPI exist because most people agree the RPI is not all that great. All you are doing is downplaying the American conference and buying the hype of the big 10 and big 12. I am not saying we will get a one seed but this team is playing like the defending National Champions and are the regular season and Tourny champs of the American conference that they are and that is 1 seed material.

And I agree UL is playing like a #1 seed now. But UL needed to be playing like that earlier in the season as well. I don't put much credence in the BPI. That is a ESPN thing like it's a Weather Channel thing to name winter storms. Kansas lost by 11pts to a team ranked #16th in the country on a neutral court. And Kansas played in the top ranked conference in the country.
03-15-2014 07:32 PM
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RE: If Louisville wins the AAC tournament, do they deserve a No. 1 seed?
(03-15-2014 07:29 PM)MHSCard Wrote:  Like I said Cincy, Memphis and UConn are all good teams, I am just saying Louisville is peaking now and playing great. We have an NBA lottery pick in Montrezl and gritty senior leadership in our All American guard Russ Smith, last years National Championship game MOP in senior Luke Hancock and quality guard play by all our guards. We are tough in March. Not unbeatable but who really wants to see us in their path?

I'm very proud of our wins over UL...I'm hoping those wins keep us a 7 seed, and out of the evil 8/9 match-up.
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RE: If Louisville wins the AAC tournament, do they deserve a No. 1 seed?
(03-15-2014 07:32 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(03-15-2014 07:11 PM)MHSCard Wrote:  
(03-15-2014 07:02 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(03-15-2014 05:03 PM)MHSCard Wrote:  
(03-15-2014 04:47 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Not only no but hell no! And any reasonable UL fan would agree. UL most impressive OOC win was against USM. You can't put UL ahead of Zona, Wichita, Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin, or Duke.
Cause Louisville has no history beating Duke, Florida, Wichita and Michigan in the last few runs to the Final Four. Oh wait.. 03-nutkick

You don't earn #1 seeds based on history. You earn it based on results for the season and UL did not do enough to warrant a #1 seed even if the eye test says otherwise. But if you want to use the eye test, Kansas deserves a #1 seed but the Jayhawks aren't going to be a #1 seed. And Kansas resume is much more impressive than UL.

That said, UL is a fine team and like last year squad, you're probably going to be a 3-seed again.
Kansas just lost by 11. IF history means nothing why do UNC, Kansas, Duke always seem to get a bounce. Pitino and other well coached teams always peak late and that is a reason why they give credence to the last 12 games. Louisville is 4 in the BPI, the BPI exist because most people agree the RPI is not all that great. All you are doing is downplaying the American conference and buying the hype of the big 10 and big 12. I am not saying we will get a one seed but this team is playing like the defending National Champions and are the regular season and Tourny champs of the American conference that they are and that is 1 seed material.

And I agree UL is playing like a #1 seed now. But UL needed to be playing like that earlier in the season as well. I don't put much credence in the BPI. That is a ESPN thing like it's a Weather Channel thing to name winter storms. Kansas lost by 11pts to a team ranked #16th in the country on a neutral court. And Kansas played in the top ranked conference in the country.
The Big 12 is the top ranked conference, but Kansas also lost, a lot. And recently. And I think the Big 10 and Big 12 are overrated and the American and ACC underrated. We will see what happens in the tourny, but just because ESPN rates something or hypes something doesn't mean that it is true. Again I can be wrong but I mean if you give Louisville a 3 seed I think that the one in that region will crap their pants.
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RE: If Louisville wins the AAC tournament, do they deserve a No. 1 seed?
I think so, but they won't get it
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RE: If Louisville wins the AAC tournament, do they deserve a No. 1 seed?
Can anyone honestly name four teams playing better than Louisville right now? I'll answer, there aren't. But the American hasn't gotten the amount of piece-slobbing from ESPN that the Acc and Big 12 has gotten. I'd put my money on Louisville against any of the projected one seeds on a neutral court. Pitino, Smith, Harrell, Hancock, etc. It's the same team that coasted by Michigan last year without Siva, yet somehow this team isn't worthy of a 1 seed. The spin is unreal guys...
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RE: If Louisville wins the AAC tournament, do they deserve a No. 1 seed?
UL's OOC Scheduling was atrocious. But in fairness, I think a lot of it was done a while ago with the expectation of playing in the Big East. The American consisted of 5 quality teams and 5 teams that were at 143 and lower on the RPI. UL doesn't have a bad loss, nor a double digit loss; and will probably be the #3 team in the AP and USAToday polls. But, the best seed attainable is probably a 2 seed.

Good ole Joey brackets and the haters at ESPN has UL on the 4 line, which is ridiculous. I can't imagine what a 1 seed would think with such a matchup in the sweet 16. And, while I respect Wichita St for going undefeated, they never played a <30 rpi team and the only two teams with single digit losses were St Louis at 25-7 and NC Central at 25-5. With the exception of the St. Louis game, every game they played, they should have won. But, this is based on resume, right? If that's the case, there is no way Wichita St nor UL is a one seed. But, if that isn't the model, then I would have to think you would consider them both on the one line.
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"Well, you know I don't get into the politics...we're probably gonna be a 1 seed...." - Rick Pitino
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Yes, Louisville is peaking for sure but remember that only one team in AAC to beat every team in the AAC isCincinnati. Cincinnati lost by a last second basket and beat UL at home. The Sweep by Memphis is going to also hurt the resume. I am seeing most predictions of UL as 3 or 4. I think a 2 or 3 is likely.
(03-15-2014 07:29 PM)MHSCard Wrote:  Like I said Cincy, Memphis and UConn are all good teams, I am just saying Louisville is peaking now and playing great. We have an NBA lottery pick in Montrezl and gritty senior leadership in our All American guard Russ Smith, last years National Championship game MOP in senior Luke Hancock and quality guard play by all our guards. We are tough in March. Not unbeatable but who really wants to see us in their path?
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(03-16-2014 10:08 AM)eastside cat Wrote:  Yes, Louisville is peaking for sure but remember that only one team in AAC to beat every team in the AAC isCincinnati. Cincinnati lost by a last second basket and beat UL at home. The Sweep by Memphis is going to also hurt the resume. I am seeing most predictions of UL as 3 or 4. I think a 2 or 3 is likely.
(03-15-2014 07:29 PM)MHSCard Wrote:  Like I said Cincy, Memphis and UConn are all good teams, I am just saying Louisville is peaking now and playing great. We have an NBA lottery pick in Montrezl and gritty senior leadership in our All American guard Russ Smith, last years National Championship game MOP in senior Luke Hancock and quality guard play by all our guards. We are tough in March. Not unbeatable but who really wants to see us in their path?
I firmly believe Louisville will be a 2 or 3. But the thing is it doesn't matter. If we are a 3 and Michigan is a 1 in the same region we both likely still have to play each other to get to the Final four. Whether it is Louisville 3 and Michigan 1 or Louisville 1 and Michigan 3, the same teams have to play and win. Just like when Cincy was made the 1 seed because of a coin flip, it did not help them beat UConn and get to the Championship game. It is survive and advance time it doesn't matter who you beat in Nov, Dec, or Jan. If you have a ticket and are playing well all that matters is matchups. Is Louisville worthy of a 1 seed? Yes. Are they playing like a one seed? Yes. Does their resume equal to the others in consideration? No. Will they get a 1 seed? No, probably not. But will they make some poor 1 seed with a pretty resume their bEEEotch and slap them around and make them look stupid? Pretty much a certainty.05-stirthepot
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They may have deserved a 1 but they are a 4. Truly unbelievable how the powers that be slighted this entire conference. How is UVA and WSU No. 1 seeds when they also didn't have a good OOC schedules (WSU had an awful conference schedule as well)? If you're gonna use a formula for UL then you should use that same formula for UVA, Nova, Creighton, and WSU. I could at least understand if UL was a 2 or maybe even a 3 but to make them a 4 is just highway robbery.
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