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Chad says we should know Sunday night or Monday.

WMU has the automatic to NIT if they lose tomorrow night.

Chance of NIT is very slim. A LOT of conference regular season champs lost in their conference tourneys. They get automatics to the NIT.
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Emu Steve I admire your dedication! On to the next step. Lets see the Eagles win in the postseason.

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I'm still excited for the CIT or CBI -- we could make a legit run in either, and that might ultimately be a lot more fun than being fodder for Michigan in the NCAAs.
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Dare I say it? I don't think we'll end up anywhere.
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(03-14-2014 10:21 PM)masttg Wrote:  Emu Steve I admire your dedication! On to the next step. Lets see the Eagles win in the postseason.

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I have to admit my 'waffle' at the end.

I planned to go to CLE and then drive to DET and fly Monday to Vegas. When we kind of hit the skids in February I decided to leave out of D.C., but could dry to CLE for the tourney.

I would have drove up Wednesday but I got freaked out by the snow storm which hit Ohio.

I kind of made a mess of tourney week. Oh, well.
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(03-14-2014 10:25 PM)HuronRob Wrote:  Dare I say it? I don't think we'll end up anywhere.

20+ wins, top 100 RPI. We are playing somewhere.
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(03-14-2014 10:24 PM)holybovine Wrote:  I'm still excited for the CIT or CBI -- we could make a legit run in either, and that might ultimately be a lot more fun than being fodder for Michigan in the NCAAs.

Greg Steiner drop big hints!! We should know pretty soon. I get the impression tomorrow...

It will be CIT or CBI, I'm pretty sure.
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(03-14-2014 10:27 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 10:25 PM)HuronRob Wrote:  Dare I say it? I don't think we'll end up anywhere.

20+ wins, top 100 RPI. We are playing somewhere.

Yeah. Steiner is pretty sure we're going somewhere, and he would know.
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(03-14-2014 10:29 PM)holybovine Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 10:27 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 10:25 PM)HuronRob Wrote:  Dare I say it? I don't think we'll end up anywhere.

20+ wins, top 100 RPI. We are playing somewhere.

Yeah. Steiner is pretty sure we're going somewhere, and he would know.

Yep, UT and WMU will go to either the NCAA or NIT. The NIT doesn't have to take UT, if they lose to WMU, but I'm pretty sure they will.

As GSteiner was saying the CIT/CBI are filling up their slots and I assume they already have locked in say 2 MAC teams from say Akron, EMU and maybe Ohio.

Mostly a case of see which teams lost tonight and get them signed up tomorrow.

BTW, I went to a CBI game last March at George Mason. "Been there, done that...." (a Mason season tix holder friend left his wife home* and invited me. The 'loyal opposition' was Western MI.)

* Try explaining the CBI to a 'non-fan' fan... 03-lmfao (actually I don't think she was very interested in a CBI game... 03-lmfao)
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I would say the NIT/CIT/CBI (whatever) all equate to the not invited tournament(s). Honestly, laughable post-season play - even the NIT now a days. No one really respects these tournaments and you sure as heck aren't going to impress recruits by accepting a bid. Maybe...the NIT. Maybe.

If the CIT/CBI are what y'all were referring to when you asked if we were going to be invited somewhere then I would have to say that your expectations are rather low. While the rest of the nation is watching the NCAA Tournament the post season tournaments you've referred to will be going on with little to no fanfare or press.

Yeah, I can just see it now... I'm going to brag to my coworkers who have graduated from Michigan, Michigan State and Western - all of whom will probably end up playing in the NCAA Tournament, that the Mighty Eagles of EMU are playing in CIT/CBI Tournament. YEAH! Doing my best Barney Fife imitation, strutting around, with my lid cockeyed on my head, doing the classic sniff and grin, that we are a program not to be taken lightly. All well and good, except my gun doesn't have a bullet in it. Nope, you won't hear a damn peep from me and I'm just hoping they don't lay it on too thick when they read that we've accepted an invitation to WHAT???? Tournament.

Shaking my head at the low expectations of the EMU fan base.
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You're kidding right? Three hours ago, we were all hoping for two more wins and an NCAA bid. We lost, so that isn't realistic anymore. What does that have to do with expectations?
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(03-14-2014 11:17 PM)HuronRob Wrote:  I would say the NIT/CIT/CBI (whatever) all equate to the not invited tournament(s). Honestly, laughable post-season play - even the NIT now a days. No one really respects these tournaments and you sure as heck aren't going to impress recruits by accepting a bid. Maybe...the NIT. Maybe.

If the CIT/CBI are what y'all were referring to when you asked if we were going to be invited somewhere then I would have to say that your expectations are rather low. While the rest of the nation is watching the NCAA Tournament the post season tournaments you've referred to will be going on with little to no fanfare or press.

Yeah, I can just see it now... I'm going to brag to my coworkers who have graduated from Michigan, Michigan State and Western - all of whom will probably end up playing in the NCAA Tournament, that the Mighty Eagles of EMU are playing in CIT/CBI Tournament. YEAH! Doing my best Barney Fife imitation, strutting around, with my lid cockeyed on my head, doing the classic sniff and grin, that we are a program not to be taken lightly. All well and good, except my gun doesn't have a bullet in it. Nope, you won't hear a damn peep from me and I'm just hoping they don't lay it on too thick when they read that we've accepted an invitation to WHAT???? Tournament.

Shaking my head at the low expectations of the EMU fan base.

wow, you are an insecure individual.
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(03-15-2014 02:09 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 11:17 PM)HuronRob Wrote:  I would say the NIT/CIT/CBI (whatever) all equate to the not invited tournament(s). Honestly, laughable post-season play - even the NIT now a days. No one really respects these tournaments and you sure as heck aren't going to impress recruits by accepting a bid. Maybe...the NIT. Maybe.

If the CIT/CBI are what y'all were referring to when you asked if we were going to be invited somewhere then I would have to say that your expectations are rather low. While the rest of the nation is watching the NCAA Tournament the post season tournaments you've referred to will be going on with littíle to no fanfare or press.

Yeah, I can just see it now... I'm going to brag to my coworkers who have graduated from Michigan, Michigan State and Western - all of whom will probably end up playing in the NCAA Tournament, that the Mighty Eagles of EMU are playing in CIT/CBI Tournament. YEAH! Doing my best Barney Fife imitation, strutting around, with my lid cockeyed on my head, doing the classic sniff and grin, that we are a program not to be taken lightly. All well and good, except my gun doesn't have a bullet in it. Nope, you won't hear a damn peep from me and I'm just hoping they don't lay it on too thick when they read that we've accepted an invitation to WHAT???? Tournament.

Shaking my head at the low expectations of the EMU fan base.

wow, you are an insecure individual.

Really! Well how about this. Who is going to pick up the cost? To host any of these even costs 10s of thousands of dollars to go to any of these will cost thousands of dollars we could barely come up with money for fan buses.
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Well, here's another perspective.

We are all disappointed that EMU couldn't get to the NCAA's. However, in fairness... it's not THAT often that a team wins 5 games in 6 nights. However, this team did win 21 games and simply put had one of the best seasons at EMU since the 90's. A post season tournament is an excuse to put up a banner to celebrate that fact. A post season tournament is an opportunity to allow our younger players an opportunity to get more practice time in and to give our team more reps against other teams of equal quality(away or at home, I think this is pretty valuable.) Did this team meet the expectations that we had at the beginning of the year? That's debatable. We were all hoping for an NCAA Tournament bid and we came a game short of having a chance of that.

Nationally and really even locally a post season tournament will not generate a ton of buzz. You're all right about that. However, you can also mention the 21 wins, the run to the MAC Semifinals and the fact that EMU had the #1 FG defense by % NATIONALLY. You can bring up how fantastic Glenn Bryant played and how hard this team played on the defensive end. In fairness, your Michigan co-workers and Michigan State co-workers are going to stick a nose up at you even if EMU was 35-0 and a #2 seed. It's just the nature of the beast with EMU right now.

However, what sort of message does it send to your current players and to future recruits if you don't accept a post season bid honoring the hard work that the team put in. To me, going into a recruit's home and saying: "Last year, we won 21 games and went to the _______. We think you could be the piece that could help get us to the NCAAs if you join us." sounds a whole hell of a lot better then, "Last year we won 21 games and we didn't go to any post season tournament because the university wouldn't find a way for us to continue our season. But hey, you might be the piece that could help get us there!" To me, it would send a message that no one cares and I think that would have crippling affects.

As for the issue of $$, I'm going to just flat out say this. If the university wants to be taken seriously, you find a way. Period. No excuses.
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I'll give my odds:

NCAAs - 0% (no brainer, huh).

NIT - 5%

CIT - 55%

CBI - 35%

No where - 5% (We hold out for a better tourney and end up empty handed)

As I posted elsewhere, I attended the WMU/George Mason CBI game in 2013. I like the CBI. NOT a bad tourney at all. Start winning two games and folks are getting excited.

That said, I'm jealous of which MAC team makes the NIT. The NIT should be the best this year in recent memory.

Indiana will make a nice foe for someone. and Illinois and Minnesota (I think). How about Maryland, Florida State, etc. Maybe G'town, Marquette, etc. and so on!!
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(03-14-2014 11:17 PM)HuronRob Wrote:  I would say the NIT/CIT/CBI (whatever) all equate to the not invited tournament(s). Honestly, laughable post-season play - even the NIT now a days. No one really respects these tournaments and you sure as heck aren't going to impress recruits by accepting a bid. Maybe...the NIT. Maybe.

If the CIT/CBI are what y'all were referring to when you asked if we were going to be invited somewhere then I would have to say that your expectations are rather low. While the rest of the nation is watching the NCAA Tournament the post season tournaments you've referred to will be going on with little to no fanfare or press.

Yeah, I can just see it now... I'm going to brag to my coworkers who have graduated from Michigan, Michigan State and Western - all of whom will probably end up playing in the NCAA Tournament, that the Mighty Eagles of EMU are playing in CIT/CBI Tournament. YEAH! Doing my best Barney Fife imitation, strutting around, with my lid cockeyed on my head, doing the classic sniff and grin, that we are a program not to be taken lightly. All well and good, except my gun doesn't have a bullet in it. Nope, you won't hear a damn peep from me and I'm just hoping they don't lay it on too thick when they read that we've accepted an invitation to WHAT???? Tournament.

Shaking my head at the low expectations of the EMU fan base.

My man, you need to lighten up.

If you really are disappointed at not making the NCAAs then your expectations are way off base for this university and team.

Tournaments like this are solid stepping stones in the process of building a solid program. Unfortunately, we come from a conference that is a "one bid league" .... So being able to continue to play, in my mind, is admirable.
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(03-15-2014 08:15 AM)easterneagles79 Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 11:17 PM)HuronRob Wrote:  I would say the NIT/CIT/CBI (whatever) all equate to the not invited tournament(s). Honestly, laughable post-season play - even the NIT now a days. No one really respects these tournaments and you sure as heck aren't going to impress recruits by accepting a bid. Maybe...the NIT. Maybe.

If the CIT/CBI are what y'all were referring to when you asked if we were going to be invited somewhere then I would have to say that your expectations are rather low. While the rest of the nation is watching the NCAA Tournament the post season tournaments you've referred to will be going on with little to no fanfare or press.

Yeah, I can just see it now... I'm going to brag to my coworkers who have graduated from Michigan, Michigan State and Western - all of whom will probably end up playing in the NCAA Tournament, that the Mighty Eagles of EMU are playing in CIT/CBI Tournament. YEAH! Doing my best Barney Fife imitation, strutting around, with my lid cockeyed on my head, doing the classic sniff and grin, that we are a program not to be taken lightly. All well and good, except my gun doesn't have a bullet in it. Nope, you won't hear a damn peep from me and I'm just hoping they don't lay it on too thick when they read that we've accepted an invitation to WHAT???? Tournament.

Shaking my head at the low expectations of the EMU fan base.

My man, you need to lighten up.

If you really are disappointed at not making the NCAAs then your expectations are way off base for this university and team.

Tournaments like this are solid stepping stones in the process of building a solid program. Unfortunately, we come from a conference that is a "one bid league" .... So being able to continue to play, in my mind, is admirable.

And you have low hopes and dreams.07-coffee3
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(03-15-2014 08:44 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  
(03-15-2014 08:15 AM)easterneagles79 Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 11:17 PM)HuronRob Wrote:  I would say the NIT/CIT/CBI (whatever) all equate to the not invited tournament(s). Honestly, laughable post-season play - even the NIT now a days. No one really respects these tournaments and you sure as heck aren't going to impress recruits by accepting a bid. Maybe...the NIT. Maybe.

If the CIT/CBI are what y'all were referring to when you asked if we were going to be invited somewhere then I would have to say that your expectations are rather low. While the rest of the nation is watching the NCAA Tournament the post season tournaments you've referred to will be going on with little to no fanfare or press.

Yeah, I can just see it now... I'm going to brag to my coworkers who have graduated from Michigan, Michigan State and Western - all of whom will probably end up playing in the NCAA Tournament, that the Mighty Eagles of EMU are playing in CIT/CBI Tournament. YEAH! Doing my best Barney Fife imitation, strutting around, with my lid cockeyed on my head, doing the classic sniff and grin, that we are a program not to be taken lightly. All well and good, except my gun doesn't have a bullet in it. Nope, you won't hear a damn peep from me and I'm just hoping they don't lay it on too thick when they read that we've accepted an invitation to WHAT???? Tournament.

Shaking my head at the low expectations of the EMU fan base.

My man, you need to lighten up.

If you really are disappointed at not making the NCAAs then your expectations are way off base for this university and team.

Tournaments like this are solid stepping stones in the process of building a solid program. Unfortunately, we come from a conference that is a "one bid league" .... So being able to continue to play, in my mind, is admirable.

And you have low hopes and dreams.07-coffee3

No, see that's where you are off base.

I have clear and consistent hopes and dreams, built upon steady improvement and realistic goals.

Do I want the NCAAs ? Someday, yes. But I realize that we are not yet there in terms of program development. Can we get there under murph ? The answer is yes
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I'm with Eagles79.

We always have to look at where we are today (or in the case of our hoops team where we were three years ago).

Quite frankly, I'm pretty surprised that Murphy has been able to get the quality players that we saw playing this week given where the program was 35 months ago when he took over.

He talked a lot of players like Riley, GB III, Talley, Harrison, Lee, Ward, etc. (and Price) to come to a program which had been down for too long.

I have no doubt that he will continue to recruit well. I think it is only a matter of time where he can get EMU back into Detroit area high schools and mine the high school talent.

We have a very good coach, very nice arena, etc. We have the ingredients to do very well going forward.
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