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RE: Unofficial: Post Season (Tourney) Watch Thread
Clemmons would be more realistic. We recruited him (he committed here initially) and he's from the area. Ronnie Johnson is from Indianapolis, and he was pretty productive in the Big Ten. I could see him going to an A10 or AAC school.
03-16-2014 04:10 PM
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RE: Unofficial: Post Season (Tourney) Watch Thread
(03-16-2014 04:06 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 02:26 PM)holybovine Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 02:07 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 02:00 PM)holybovine Wrote:  Another thing to consider about transfers is that most of them didn't pan out at their previous schools for a reason. It's OK to have one or two of them, but to continually build your core around transfers is probably a bad idea.

Of course, you realize that TWO of the top four teams in the MAC this year (EMU and UT) are loaded with transfers.

And at the bottom of the MAC are teams full of high school kids.

Life ought not be full of silly rules which might sound good but don't work.

Take it easy, chief. I wouldn't call our transfer exercise a success. I don't consider EMU to be a top 4 team in the MAC. Buffalo and Akron were better overall, and I'm not talking about the results of one game. How were Buffalo and Akron built? How was Western built?

I can see why you worked for the government with your attitude -- who made you the arbiter of what is right and wrong?

I just stand up for my opinions and those who share the views I hold.

Feel free to disagree, but I doubt I'll change my mind. Sorry.

I would love to see us get Clemmons (Iowa) if he transfers (think he will) or Ronnie Johnson (Purdue - announced his decision to transfer today).

Good for you. Hold onto your opinions. Try not to dump on others' opinions. Get it?
03-16-2014 04:12 PM
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RE: Unofficial: Post Season (Tourney) Watch Thread
(03-16-2014 02:56 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  I'd say it's been somewhat of a success. We were awful three years ago, and we aren't awful anymore. Not one of our transfers has been a disappointment in my eyes. I wish Riley could've developed more offensively, but his defense was a major part of our team.

Two of Buffalo's three best players are transfers. Same with Ohio. Quincy Diggs is a transfer too. Some of the best players in the MAC in recent years have been transfers. Does it always work? No. You could say the same about recruiting high school kids though.

I wish Murph recruited high school better, but if this team is competitive, I'll live with it.

Transfers are fine. Having 5 or 6 of them is a different story.
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I think it depends on if they're good or not. Personally, I think ours are pretty good.

If a coach can recruit transfers and JUCO's well consistently, I personally don't see it as a problem. I'll take two years of Mike Talley/Karrington Ward and three years of Darell Combs over many four year players. So long as their eventual replacements are recruited as well.
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RE: Unofficial: Post Season (Tourney) Watch Thread
(03-16-2014 04:12 PM)holybovine Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 04:06 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 02:26 PM)holybovine Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 02:07 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 02:00 PM)holybovine Wrote:  Another thing to consider about transfers is that most of them didn't pan out at their previous schools for a reason. It's OK to have one or two of them, but to continually build your core around transfers is probably a bad idea.

Of course, you realize that TWO of the top four teams in the MAC this year (EMU and UT) are loaded with transfers.

And at the bottom of the MAC are teams full of high school kids.

Life ought not be full of silly rules which might sound good but don't work.

Take it easy, chief. I wouldn't call our transfer exercise a success. I don't consider EMU to be a top 4 team in the MAC. Buffalo and Akron were better overall, and I'm not talking about the results of one game. How were Buffalo and Akron built? How was Western built?

I can see why you worked for the government with your attitude -- who made you the arbiter of what is right and wrong?

I just stand up for my opinions and those who share the views I hold.

Feel free to disagree, but I doubt I'll change my mind. Sorry.

I would love to see us get Clemmons (Iowa) if he transfers (think he will) or Ronnie Johnson (Purdue - announced his decision to transfer today).

Good for you. Hold onto your opinions. Try not to dump on others' opinions. Get it?

Ditto, for you too, sir...
03-16-2014 04:35 PM
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(03-16-2014 04:23 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  I think it depends on if they're good or not. Personally, I think ours are pretty good.

If a coach can recruit transfers and JUCO's well consistently, I personally don't see it as a problem. I'll take two years of Mike Talley/Karrington Ward and three years of Darell Combs over many four year players. So long as their eventual replacements are recruited as well.

Harrison, Riley, GB3 were supposed to be the core of this year's team. All three underachieved, and were in Murphy's doghouse at times this year because they were not responding to him they way he wanted. That type of thing is a potential problem if you're counting on your seniors to be leaders.

Transfers are self-interested by definition -- they're looking for playing time or more significant roles. That's fine, but you need some glue guys to go along with that (e.g., Sims).
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RE: Unofficial: Post Season (Tourney) Watch Thread
(03-16-2014 04:35 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 04:12 PM)holybovine Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 04:06 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 02:26 PM)holybovine Wrote:  
(03-16-2014 02:07 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Of course, you realize that TWO of the top four teams in the MAC this year (EMU and UT) are loaded with transfers.

And at the bottom of the MAC are teams full of high school kids.

Life ought not be full of silly rules which might sound good but don't work.

Take it easy, chief. I wouldn't call our transfer exercise a success. I don't consider EMU to be a top 4 team in the MAC. Buffalo and Akron were better overall, and I'm not talking about the results of one game. How were Buffalo and Akron built? How was Western built?

I can see why you worked for the government with your attitude -- who made you the arbiter of what is right and wrong?

I just stand up for my opinions and those who share the views I hold.

Feel free to disagree, but I doubt I'll change my mind. Sorry.

I would love to see us get Clemmons (Iowa) if he transfers (think he will) or Ronnie Johnson (Purdue - announced his decision to transfer today).

Good for you. Hold onto your opinions. Try not to dump on others' opinions. Get it?

Ditto, for you too, sir...

I have never dismissed your opinions. You're welcome to them. Problem is, you perpetually crap on posters on this board. "Life ought not to be full of silly rules..."

I'm sick of your passive aggressiveness.
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RE: Unofficial: Post Season (Tourney) Watch Thread
getting back to the tourney:

WI-GB > UVa (#1 seed?)

EMU > WI-GB 02-13-banana
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It's a shame Green Bay lost in their conference tournament. I think they would've been dangerous in the Big Dance. Sadly, I don't see them getting an at-large, even though lots of the media pundits are hyping them up for one.
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I am not an insider like some, but I do propose this scenario:

Murphy had some instant success his first year in non-conference (beat Purdue) and MAC play (9-7, MAC West leader). That resulted in picking up decent high school recruits in Lee and Ross.

They slipped his second year a bit in non-conference and MAC play, despite doing better in MAC tourney. For this reason, could it have been that he just had a hard time convincing high-schoolers his program was on the rise?

Anyway, I am sure glad he got Talley and Ward last year. Hopefully the improvements this year in non-conference, MAC regular, and MAC tourney play will convince the high-schoolers this spring and next fall that EMU is competitive and rising.
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RE: Unofficial: Post Season (Tourney) Watch Thread
WMU has been very successful building with high school talent, Ohio U had some transfers but more towards high school as has Akron.

I agree we should be approaching the point where EMU has a more solid base in recruiting local high school talent.
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(03-17-2014 08:27 AM)emu79 Wrote:  I agree we should be approaching the point where EMU has a more solid base in recruiting local high school talent.

Yes, hopefully making inroads in Detroit. Not going to get the top talent, but Murphy needs to get some of the kids in Metro Detroit Oakland and UDM have traditionally gotten.

Along the same lines, I hope Murphy decides to set up shop in Ypsi as Kampe has at Oakland. The flirting with the NBA (and possible 'Cuse replacement down the road though I think that's very very premature) leads me to think he won't stick around though.
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