In southern CA, no less... the ATF wanted customer info and threatened confiscation if not given up.

Warren Buffett is a major competitor (Cerro), just sayin'.


http://www.examiner.com/article/court-re...er-records

Quote:March 13, 2014


The United States District Court, Southern California District granted a temporary restraining order Tuesday against the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms and Explosives to stay a planned raid on an Oceanside gun parts supplier and seizing of its inventory and customer records. The planned action was due to the company providing the public with heretofore legal so-called “80 percent lower receivers,” unfinished gun parts that must be further processed by the purchasers in order to result in a legally-defined “firearm.”

This is a big deal and I hope it doesn't get passed over by the influx in bs news media.

To bring those who haven't been following this up to speed:

Ares Armor produces 80% unmilled lower recievers, that by the letter of the law, is nothing more than a paper weight. The ATF demanded Ares Armor hand over all their customer records, for reasons that should be obvious given the state Ares Armor is in. Ares said no, filed, and was granted a restraining order.

This afternoon, the ATF raided them anyway. This sh*t is crazy. Rule of law means absolutely nothing to this administration. If it doesn't follow their agenda, they can come after you -- rule of law be damned.

Is there any reason why the police didn't arrest the ATF agents for violating a judge's order? We're the police even called?

Here is worst part. Through his attorney, he actually agreed to voluntarily relinquish the parts that were supposedly "not legal". What they wanted was his list of purchasers. That is the scary part.

(03-16-2014 12:19 AM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  Here is worst part. Through his attorney, he actually agreed to voluntarily relinquish the parts that were supposedly "not legal". What they wanted was his list of purchasers. That is the scary part.

We've been talking about gun 'lists" on this board for a while and what the government would do with them. Criminals probably don't buy their guns and gun parts at shops like this, so regular Joes are now being scrutinized by the Feds.

Here's an interview the owner did with Nutnfancy (prominent gear/gun reviewer).

(03-16-2014 12:33 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(03-16-2014 12:19 AM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  Here is worst part. Through his attorney, he actually agreed to voluntarily relinquish the parts that were supposedly "not legal". What they wanted was his list of purchasers. That is the scary part.

We've been talking about gun 'lists" on this board for a while and what the government would do with them. Criminals probably don't buy their guns and gun parts at shops like this, so regular Joes are now being scrutinized by the Feds.

Criminals wouldn't know how to assemble receivers ... plus, they can buy pre-assembled guns off the street from places without record keeping and security cameras.

At what point are within our rights to fight fire with fire?

If there is no rule of law, there is no obligation for us to follow it either. Molon Labe.

(03-16-2014 07:51 AM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(03-16-2014 12:33 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(03-16-2014 12:19 AM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  Here is worst part. Through his attorney, he actually agreed to voluntarily relinquish the parts that were supposedly "not legal". What they wanted was his list of purchasers. That is the scary part.

We've been talking about gun 'lists" on this board for a while and what the government would do with them. Criminals probably don't buy their guns and gun parts at shops like this, so regular Joes are now being scrutinized by the Feds.

Criminals wouldn't know how to assemble receivers ... plus, they can buy pre-assembled guns off the street from places without record keeping and security cameras.

..or better yet, have them bought and delivered by the Feds.

#fast&furious

The local sheriff should require the ATF to produce the agents who violated the court restraining order. They should then be arrested and charged. Untill that time no federal agent would be allowed to operate in that jurisdiction. It is time to start playing hard ball with the lawless federal gov't.