(03-14-2014 12:04 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 11:55 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Josh has identified the problem - "It's gonna be hard to win when our senior guards combine for 10-for-38 (from the field)."

That's the kind of thought process that means we have a major league coaching problem. Plan A doesn't work so let's go with........plan A. The guy is clueless.

Reminded me of Cal when he starts openly blaming players ...

(03-14-2014 12:11 AM)tigergg Wrote:  I'm sorry I like Josh but he can't coach.. He ran 1 offensive set the whole night The high pick and roll 30 ft from the basket and the UCONN guards knew what was coming every time and they just laid back and let there man come by and then pick him up..Geez that's hard to defend.. Did ya'll also know that Josh is the defensive Coach for the Tigers?? Yes, yes he is.. What Defense, we guard guys tight 35ft from the basket and they just blow by us everytime.. You would think after doing this over and over he could come up with something different..Josh does not put his players in the best possible offense or defense for them to excel.. Sorry for the rant but I really don't expect much anymore from Josh or his staff..


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Agreed. It's just painful and disheartening to watch.

(03-13-2014 11:48 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  What other Memphis coach's have won national titles at Memphis?

What other Memphis coach's have been to the NCAA tourney 4 times in their first 5 years?

I don't know about hall of fame, but we do not have a coaching issue at this point.

In the era where the field is comprised of 68 teams, simply making the NCAA tourney isnt the feat it used to be. Especially when he was playing a cupcake schedule for 4 of the 5 seasons.

And lol @ national titles.

(03-14-2014 12:10 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 11:55 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Josh has identified the problem - "It's gonna be hard to win when our senior guards combine for 10-for-38 (from the field)."

they aren't 4 lowly guards...but 4 noble kings.

Did he really say that? Holy sh**, that is bad.

Nothing wrong with blaming the players...folks here do it cause they're busy munching on pastners a junk.lol

(03-14-2014 12:11 AM)tiger-viper Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 11:53 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 1h
Josh Pastner needs to drop his typical defensive posture after bad losses and simply apologize for this mess

am i the only one that wishes wolken was still the tiger beat writer?

wish he were here too. loved how he was brash with his opinions.

(03-14-2014 02:44 AM)stratecashomie Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 12:11 AM)tiger-viper Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 11:53 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 1h
Josh Pastner needs to drop his typical defensive posture after bad losses and simply apologize for this mess

am i the only one that wishes wolken was still the tiger beat writer?

wish he were here too. loved how he was brash with his opinions.

Pastner did say it was his fault after the game. But so did the players. In fact Johnson said the coaches had them prepared but we did not play like it.

(03-13-2014 10:57 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  why are some folks so certain he will become a hall of fame coach? what is it about him and his accomplishments thus far that guarantee the future success of pastner as a head coach and more specifically the head coach of the memphis tigers? and by success, i mean a national championship. not multiple titles. just one title. i'm not greedy. please discuss, and try to keep it civil.

So by that criteria, I guess we have not had any successful coaches. JC was unsuccessful here for how many year?

I don't like the way the season played out but I knew there would be growing pains, first for him being a hc and then for playing in a lot tougher conference. At times he looked good, other times not so much. He needs to start winning more to earn his money. I saw improvement in his coaching this year and I think he will continue to improve. Enough to be one of the elite coaches? We'll see.

BTW, how many coaches turned down the job before Josh got hired? I mean, there was rumors here and there but does anyone really know?

(03-14-2014 09:31 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:57 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  why are some folks so certain he will become a hall of fame coach? what is it about him and his accomplishments thus far that guarantee the future success of pastner as a head coach and more specifically the head coach of the memphis tigers? and by success, i mean a national championship. not multiple titles. just one title. i'm not greedy. please discuss, and try to keep it civil.

So by that criteria, I guess we have not had any successful coaches. JC was unsuccessful here for how many year?

I don't like the way the season played out but I knew there would be growing pains, first for him being a hc and then for playing in a lot tougher conference. At times he looked good, other times not so much. He needs to start winning more to earn his money. I saw improvement in his coaching this year and I think he will continue to improve. Enough to be one of the elite coaches? We'll see.

BTW, how many coaches turned down the job before Josh got hired? I mean, there was rumors here and there but does anyone really know?

I think you're confusing what success means in terms of the Memphis basketball program and what success means in terms of getting into the College Basketball Hall of Fame.

If you think Pastner is going to be a HOF level coach, you pretty much have to think he's going to at the very least win one National Championship, if not multiple NCs .

(03-14-2014 10:10 AM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 09:31 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:57 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  why are some folks so certain he will become a hall of fame coach? what is it about him and his accomplishments thus far that guarantee the future success of pastner as a head coach and more specifically the head coach of the memphis tigers? and by success, i mean a national championship. not multiple titles. just one title. i'm not greedy. please discuss, and try to keep it civil.

So by that criteria, I guess we have not had any successful coaches. JC was unsuccessful here for how many year?

I don't like the way the season played out but I knew there would be growing pains, first for him being a hc and then for playing in a lot tougher conference. At times he looked good, other times not so much. He needs to start winning more to earn his money. I saw improvement in his coaching this year and I think he will continue to improve. Enough to be one of the elite coaches? We'll see.

BTW, how many coaches turned down the job before Josh got hired? I mean, there was rumors here and there but does anyone really know?

I think you're confusing what success means in terms of the Memphis basketball program and what success means in terms of getting into the College Basketball Hall of Fame.

If you think Pastner is going to be a HOF level coach, you pretty much have to think he's going to at the very least win one National Championship, if not multiple NCs .

The OP defined success at UM as winning a NC.

I was wrong on JC though, he did win a NC, just not at UM.

(03-14-2014 10:14 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 10:10 AM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 09:31 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:57 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  why are some folks so certain he will become a hall of fame coach? what is it about him and his accomplishments thus far that guarantee the future success of pastner as a head coach and more specifically the head coach of the memphis tigers? and by success, i mean a national championship. not multiple titles. just one title. i'm not greedy. please discuss, and try to keep it civil.

So by that criteria, I guess we have not had any successful coaches. JC was unsuccessful here for how many year?

I don't like the way the season played out but I knew there would be growing pains, first for him being a hc and then for playing in a lot tougher conference. At times he looked good, other times not so much. He needs to start winning more to earn his money. I saw improvement in his coaching this year and I think he will continue to improve. Enough to be one of the elite coaches? We'll see.

BTW, how many coaches turned down the job before Josh got hired? I mean, there was rumors here and there but does anyone really know?

I think you're confusing what success means in terms of the Memphis basketball program and what success means in terms of getting into the College Basketball Hall of Fame.

If you think Pastner is going to be a HOF level coach, you pretty much have to think he's going to at the very least win one National Championship, if not multiple NCs .

The OP defined success at UM as winning a NC.

I was wrong on JC though, he did win a NC, just not at UM.

Title of thread: "Future HOF Coach a Certainty?"

Very First Sentence: "why are some folks so certain he will become a hall of fame coach?"

We have gotten better every year. Deeper post season success, beating multiple ranked teams...took Florida to the wire. Stop acting like we've been in a 5-year free fall. We have some major consistency problems but we have seen excellent coaching... we've seen excellent playing...we've seen both at the same time. Last night was NOT one of those nights.

Go tigers go!

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(03-14-2014 11:19 AM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 10:14 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 10:10 AM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 09:31 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:57 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  why are some folks so certain he will become a hall of fame coach? what is it about him and his accomplishments thus far that guarantee the future success of pastner as a head coach and more specifically the head coach of the memphis tigers? and by success, i mean a national championship. not multiple titles. just one title. i'm not greedy. please discuss, and try to keep it civil.

So by that criteria, I guess we have not had any successful coaches. JC was unsuccessful here for how many year?

I don't like the way the season played out but I knew there would be growing pains, first for him being a hc and then for playing in a lot tougher conference. At times he looked good, other times not so much. He needs to start winning more to earn his money. I saw improvement in his coaching this year and I think he will continue to improve. Enough to be one of the elite coaches? We'll see.

BTW, how many coaches turned down the job before Josh got hired? I mean, there was rumors here and there but does anyone really know?

I think you're confusing what success means in terms of the Memphis basketball program and what success means in terms of getting into the College Basketball Hall of Fame.

If you think Pastner is going to be a HOF level coach, you pretty much have to think he's going to at the very least win one National Championship, if not multiple NCs .

The OP defined success at UM as winning a NC.

I was wrong on JC though, he did win a NC, just not at UM.

Title of thread: "Future HOF Coach a Certainty?"

Very First Sentence: "why are some folks so certain he will become a hall of fame coach?"

What did he write later regarding what he considered being successful? I was addressing that part.

Has anybody had the stomach to view the box score from last night?

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=400543748

I’ve been a fan & supporter for decades and this has to be one of the worst stat sheets I’ve ever seen. Team and staff gets an F- for this one. As of now I don’t see Josh being a HOF coach unless he changes his coaching philosophy.

After hearing him say he would rely on one element of the team to be the deciding factor for games no matter what happened, is something I’ve never heard a good coach say at any level.

(03-13-2014 11:48 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  What other Memphis coach's have won national titles at Memphis?

What other Memphis coach's have been to the NCAA tourney 4 times in their first 5 years?

I don't know about hall of fame, but we do not have a coaching issue at this point.

You are right because as our coach says, "Proper Preparation Prevents Poor Performance" and "No Slippage" have been his own mission statements since he took over 5 years ago. I guess he had to give up on those guidelines and just straight to "We just gotta hit shots".

Simply put: Memphis has gotten better every year, with better talent and a more powerful schedule, a reasonably good admittedly young
inexperienced coach,
a critical but large and loyal fan base and a great place to play. All
positives!! But this fan base does know basketball very well and they can tell progress when it is being made. Whether this particular team is supremely talented or not is not the question? The question that
every fan is asking is why is our coach is so defensive about a scheme that obviously does not work, and why he does not seem to have an offensive or defensive philosophy. I personally would like to know why he enjoys burying his bigs on his bench and why he doesn't develop the talents of his freshmen??? Coach!!! Small ball is not going to work without excellent shooters and ballhandlers and the proper scheme. Small guards do not rebound or guard well unless they are exceptional and you do not have that.