Quote:One of the most noteworthy changes came from the Lindner College of Business at University of Cincinnati, which climbed from a tie at No. 99 to a three-way tie at No. 60 this year.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-news-rel...15285.html

Santa J. Ono ‏@PrezOno ·11h
UC's Lindner Business School even w Rutgers & UCSD, surges past: Tulane, Case Western, GW, Syracuse, Miami U & Xavier in US News ranking.

(03-11-2014 03:09 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Santa J. Ono ‏@PrezOno ·11h
UC's Lindner Business School even w Rutgers & UCSD, surges past: Tulane, Case Western, GW, Syracuse, Miami U & Xavier in US News ranking.

Huge news there. The CoB making this jump will drastically affect our rankings in the future, they were the one lagging behind out of the Big 5 undergraduate colleges (A&S, CoB, CEAS, DAAP, CECH). Now if only we could get a name on the Law School, that's really the only thing holding back a BIG jump in rankings, as our Medical School is well-respected and highly ranked.

I was a dork and started clicking on all the rankings today. I couldn't help but notice that the School of Engineering had an overall ranking of something like #81...but if you click through all the major engineering categories, almost all of them were ranked higher than 81.

So the individual enginneering programs are great, but the overall school isn't as much?

I have to question the big jump for the College of Business. How does it jump 30+ spots in one year? Don't get me wrong, as a two-time graduate of the CoB, I'm happy...but what changed so drastically? This should really enhance the quality of the applicant.

(03-11-2014 04:05 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  I was a dork and started clicking on all the rankings today. I couldn't help but notice that the School of Engineering had an overall ranking of something like #81...but if you click through all the major engineering categories, almost all of them were ranked higher than 81.

So the individual enginneering programs are great, but the overall school isn't as much?

I have to question the big jump for the College of Business. How does it jump 30+ spots in one year? Don't get me wrong, as a two-time graduate of the CoB, I'm happy...but what changed so drastically? This should really enhance the quality of the applicant.

It raised quite a bit due to the naming of the college as odd as that seems. Having a major research partner such as AFG and Great American be public like that allows it. As backwards as it seems, adding a name to a college does have an empirical correlation to an increase in ranking. That being said, due to the inception and national recognition of the Lindner Honors-Plus program and the Kolodzik Business Scholars programs, the rankings have steadily been improving due to a heavy increase in quality applicants.

The engineering rankings are due to the assimilation with the College of Applied Sciences which is why people like me who had to go through that combination process were royally pissed. As you stated, almost every program is above #60 in Engineering (Mine was #20/#32 (Civil/Environmental), however, since our College of Engineering is now a College of Engineering and Applied Sciences, all of the Applied Sciences programs are added into the rankings to weigh it down.

(03-11-2014 03:09 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Santa J. Ono ‏@PrezOno ·11h
UC's Lindner Business School even w Rutgers & UCSD, surges past: Tulane, Case Western, GW, Syracuse, Miami U & Xavier in US News ranking.

I was always told that xavier was not in the same ranking category as UC, Miami(oh) and osu. They were in some sort of regional college category. Is this true or are their programs rated in the same category as a UC or osu?

(03-13-2014 12:34 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(03-11-2014 03:09 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Santa J. Ono ‏@PrezOno ·11h
UC's Lindner Business School even w Rutgers & UCSD, surges past: Tulane, Case Western, GW, Syracuse, Miami U & Xavier in US News ranking.

I was always told that xavier was not in the same ranking category as UC, Miami(oh) and osu. They were in some sort of regional college category. Is this true or are their programs rated in the same category as a UC or osu?

All business schools are ranked together. You're probably thinking of general undergraduate rankings.

The last time I looked several years ago, the average GMAT scores for UC business school graduate students were considerably higher than Miami's and especially Xavier's. Given the much higher quality of our students, I was shocked to learn via Ono's tweet we "surged past" either school. I thought we had been looking at each in the rear-view mirror for quite some time.

(03-13-2014 01:25 PM)dalbc Wrote:  The last time I looked several years ago, the average GMAT scores for UC business school graduate students were considerably higher than Miami's and especially Xavier's. Given the much higher quality of our students, I was shocked to learn via Ono's tweet we "surged past" either school. I thought we had been looking at each in the rear-view mirror for quite some time.

Honest to God, it is due to the lack of a prominent named benefactor on the school. UC's quality of applicant and enrollee for their business school at a graduate level has FAR exceeded that of Miami and Xavier for the past 10 years or so, but the fact that MU has the Farmer SoB and Xavier (Williams CoB) offers one of the most prolific night/off-campus MBA programs in the country allowed them to maintain a rankings advantage. The lack of a named benefactor on the Law School and CEAS probably cost both at least 10-15 spots every year.

Cincinnati's graduate programs in Real Estate are among the best in the nation, and we are continuously in the Top 10 in Accounting, Entrepreneurship, and Economics on both the undergraduate and graduate level. Our biggest boost this year has been to our Finance department (up 38 spots in the past two years), which is typically the largest department in the CoB, due to the funding/establishment of more significant chairs in the department throught CHL's generous gifts.

(03-13-2014 01:36 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Honest to God, it is due to the lack of a prominent named benefactor on the school. UC's quality of applicant and enrollee for their business school at a graduate level has FAR exceeded that of Miami and Xavier for the past 10 years or so, but the fact that MU has the Farmer SoB and Xavier (Williams CoB) offers one of the most prolific night/off-campus MBA programs in the country allowed them to maintain a rankings advantage. The lack of a named benefactor on the Law School and CEAS probably cost both at least 10-15 spots every year.

Cincinnati's graduate programs in Real Estate are among the best in the nation, and we are continuously in the Top 10 in Accounting, Entrepreneurship, and Economics on both the undergraduate and graduate level. Our biggest boost this year has been to our Finance department (up 38 spots in the past two years), which is typically the largest department in the CoB, due to the funding/establishment of more significant chairs in the department throught CHL's generous gifts.

I've never been much of a fan of the USN&WR rankings, but if the lack of a named benefactor hanging from the building trumps student GMAT scores, the rankings are truly worthless ... including our new, "improved" position.

You couldn't be more right, and that's why parents are the only people who care about those. Most higher ed employees and faculty know just how wrong and absolutely ridiculous the metrics are for judgment. Up until 2 years ago, they still used 4-year grad rate as a defining judgment metric, which I'm sure everyone here understands is a terrible way to judge academic prowess.