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RE: ACC TV Network
(03-13-2014 11:21 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  
(03-13-2014 02:37 PM)S11 Wrote:  
(03-13-2014 10:29 AM)Tbringer Wrote:  
(03-13-2014 10:24 AM)S11 Wrote:  
(03-13-2014 08:54 AM)Tbringer Wrote:  Why do you think "ESPN is trying to make it sound more important than it is"? Why would ESPN want to do that?

(03-13-2014 08:57 AM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  To get people to use WatchESPN.

Winner winner chicken dinner. ESPN looking out for ESPN.

Tbringer- Let's not read into something that isn't there RE: the ACC network.

What do you mean when you say let's not read into something that isn't there. ESPN says it is a dedicated ACC tv channel not me. Seems to claim it is something else would be reading into it something that isn't.

We both know that this story isn't closely related to the ACC network idea. It may or may not happen but this is just ESPN rebranding their online offering to make things better for Bristol.

If it was anything worthwhile the SBJ or the ACC and it's local media would be all over themselves reporting it.

It might happen, it might not, but this story won't confirm it either way.

Where to begin.

First, we don't both "know" that this dedicated ACC tv channel isn't related to the ACC tv channel idea. What we know is that the article states that that is what it is and quotes ESPN executives saying it.

You and all the ACC posters here assume that "this is just ESPN rebranding their online offering to make things better for Bristol". There isn't any reason to believe this, nothing points to that being true and the article doesn't address the issue.

The ACC posts just about everything that happens to or for them. It is odd that the ACC hasn't commented on this at all when you'd be hard pressed to find anything ACC related they don't comment on or announce.

Obviously, like this board here, there is a gag/censorship order in place.

Can't help but notice that you've allowed ACC fans here to bash multiple schools and conferences without so much as a comment in the past. Its really a shame that you pretend to have an open realignment board when this board is obviously just a place for the ACC to spin itself and put down everyone else.

Read the above Charlotte BizJournal article and stop trolling. That will help.
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RE: ACC TV Network
(03-13-2014 11:39 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  
(03-13-2014 11:21 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  
(03-13-2014 02:37 PM)S11 Wrote:  
(03-13-2014 10:29 AM)Tbringer Wrote:  
(03-13-2014 10:24 AM)S11 Wrote:  Winner winner chicken dinner. ESPN looking out for ESPN.

Tbringer- Let's not read into something that isn't there RE: the ACC network.

What do you mean when you say let's not read into something that isn't there. ESPN says it is a dedicated ACC tv channel not me. Seems to claim it is something else would be reading into it something that isn't.

We both know that this story isn't closely related to the ACC network idea. It may or may not happen but this is just ESPN rebranding their online offering to make things better for Bristol.

If it was anything worthwhile the SBJ or the ACC and it's local media would be all over themselves reporting it.

It might happen, it might not, but this story won't confirm it either way.

Where to begin.

First, we don't both "know" that this dedicated ACC tv channel isn't related to the ACC tv channel idea. What we know is that the article states that that is what it is and quotes ESPN executives saying it.

You and all the ACC posters here assume that "this is just ESPN rebranding their online offering to make things better for Bristol". There isn't any reason to believe this, nothing points to that being true and the article doesn't address the issue.

The ACC posts just about everything that happens to or for them. It is odd that the ACC hasn't commented on this at all when you'd be hard pressed to find anything ACC related they don't comment on or announce.

Obviously, like this board here, there is a gag/censorship order in place.

Can't help but notice that you've allowed ACC fans here to bash multiple schools and conferences without so much as a comment in the past. Its really a shame that you pretend to have an open realignment board when this board is obviously just a place for the ACC to spin itself and put down everyone else.

Read the above Charlotte BizJournal article and stop trolling. That will help.

no it won't. the dude is unwilling to see reason/logic other than what fills his acc bashing agenda
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"the dude" hmm, perhaps you hit the nail on the head.
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(03-14-2014 12:36 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  "the dude" hmm, perhaps you hit the nail on the head.

if he is indeed the dude then I want an automatic: 05-ban with no questions asked.
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At this point the OP isn't even trolling any longer, he's just a spammer... may as well be pushing that nifty work at home and earn $30k/mo. gig, or get yourself these fabulous new-formula ***** enlargement pills -- they really work!

whatevs...
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As long as Notre Dame is in the ACC, the conference won't get tier 3 rights for an ACC TV network. ND does their own thing. When Notre Dame joined Hockey East it was only after they agreed to let ND have all home hockey games on NBCSN and then the rest of the conference gets 3 games to split among the other 11 teams.

Notre Dame is to the ACC what Texas is to the Big XII. Neither will get a conference network because of those two.
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you really have no idea what you're talking about. all of ND's non-football rights belong to the ACC. they're no different than anyone else outside of football. that is a documented fact.

(03-14-2014 08:27 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  As long as Notre Dame is in the ACC, the conference won't get tier 3 rights for an ACC TV network. ND does their own thing. When Notre Dame joined Hockey East it was only after they agreed to let ND have all home hockey games on NBCSN and then the rest of the conference gets 3 games to split among the other 11 teams.

Notre Dame is to the ACC what Texas is to the Big XII. Neither will get a conference network because of those two.
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Big surprise. Another non ACC poster makes a comment in a thread on this board and is immediately attacked by the ACC censorship gang with no comment from above.

BTW Miami fan, the only difference regarding the comments that you made is that the ACC actually needs a conference network while the Big 12 conference has tier 3 television rights and a higher television contract.
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(03-13-2014 07:21 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  Here is an update - not much new: http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/blo...-your.html

This article is no different than what has been spun for over a year. Nothing new in that article--the possibility of exploration. Not surprisingly it comes directly from ACC land in NC.

ACC gang read: guarantee of an ACC network
rest of country reads: possibility of exploration of a channel still being explored
ESPN says: We have started a dedicated ACC tv channel
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(03-13-2014 01:15 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  The funny thing is, this subject keeps popping up on various message boards because people do not understand that the word "Network" has multiple meanings. For example the SEC has been syndicating games for years under the banner "SEC Network." That has no affect on their upcoming television network, other than they use the same branding.
Yes, precisely.

It is absurd to imagine that this announcement by ESPN has anything to do one way or another with the ACC getting a cable network with its own channel in cable lineups ... because the announcement was of "digital networks":
Quote:A total of 15 branded destinations can now be streamed on televisions through WatchESPN via Apple TV and Roku, delivering live men’s and women’s college basketball events from across ESPN networks in time for Championship Week as well as replays of college football games. Conference channels at launch include: ACC, America East, Atlantic Sun, Big South, Big West, HBCUs (Mid-Eastern Athletic, Southwestern Athletic and Central Intercollegiate Athletic), Horizon, Mid-American, Metro Atlantic Athletic, Missouri Valley, Northeast, Ohio Valley, Southern, Sun Belt and Southland.

No way the Northeast, Ohio Valley, Southern, Southland, Big South, America East and etc. conferences are on track to get their own channel on cable systems across the country, so obviously for anyone who takes a moment to think about the actual announcement, there is no connection between this and the ongoing "ACC Network" saga, which is about a cable channel with its own spot on cable systems.

Cable channels, and more to the point the system capacity to feed them, are a limited resource, and getting onto a cable system is a fight.

By contrast, this is just a redesign of the organization of existing ESPN Digital streaming, with resources from each team organized by conference to make them easier to find. Its just about as easy for Roku to support 16 channels (WatchESPN and the 15 conference channels) as it is to support 1. And given an ability to search by conference in WatchESPN, then its really just the same device software, just a different ID so it gets a different icon and starts at the conference specific home page.
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RE: ACC TV Network
(03-14-2014 09:21 AM)Tbringer Wrote:  
(03-13-2014 07:21 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  Here is an update - not much new: http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/blo...-your.html

This article is no different than what has been spun for over a year. Nothing new in that article--the possibility of exploration. Not surprisingly it comes directly from ACC land in NC.

ACC gang read: guarantee of an ACC network
rest of country reads: possibility of exploration of a channel still being explored
ESPN says: We have started a dedicated ACC tv channel

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RE: ACC TV Network
(03-14-2014 09:21 AM)Tbringer Wrote:  
(03-13-2014 07:21 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  Here is an update - not much new: http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/blo...-your.html

This article is no different than what has been spun for over a year. Nothing new in that article--the possibility of exploration. Not surprisingly it comes directly from ACC land in NC.

ACC gang read: guarantee of an ACC network
rest of country reads: possibility of exploration of a channel still being explored
ESPN says: We have started a dedicated SEC cable tv channel
FIFY. ESPN has not said anywhere that they have started a dedicated ACC TV channel, though on a different topic, they have said they have started a dedicated ACC internet streaming video "destination".
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http://beforeitsnews.com/sports/2014/02/...54930.html

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Quote:If I haven’t convinced you this announcement at worst is harmless and at best may even enhance a cable television network for the ACC maybe Damon Phillip the VP Watch ESPN can shed some light on things.

From Variety.com piece on the ESPN announcement.

“We started looking at our portfolio of rights and said, ‘There are conferences who will want a persistent TV channel of their own,’” said Damon Phillips, VP of WatchESPN and ESPN3. And, he added, “having channel adjacency to ESPN in the lineup is something that is very, very valuable.”

Hmm… the ACC is looking into a TV Channel of their own, and this “channel adjacency” is “very very valuable.” Hey those aren’t my words they are ESPNs.

In addition from that same article…

The additional digital services let ESPN, which is majority owned by Disney, negotiate higher carriage fees from cable and satellite TV providers and also present additional ad inventory.

Let me explain what that statement means… WatchESPN is a service provided by your Cable or Satellite provider. As ESPN enhances their digital content they can charge more for their cable channels, because there is more content to view.



Let's look at the Pac 12 and what they are exploring:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/aliciajessop...tal-space/

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Quote:In a media age when college athletics conferences are seizing deals with networks worth hundreds-of-millions to billions of dollars, the Pac-12 Conference with its Pac-12 Network is the elephant in the room. In 2012, the Pac-12 strayed the normal course of conference television deals when it launched its own network that is fully owned by the conference. In the infancy of the network’s existence, it is clear that paving its own path has provided the Pac-12 with opportunities not as easily seized by other conferences. One such opportunity is the ability to determine the path of its digital presence.


Of the P5, the 2 conferences without a Network are the ACC and Big 12. There is only one of those conferences that still has the ability to form their own Conference TV Network and capitalize on the potential income it could bring. The ACC is exploring how an ESPN owned Network could benefit it. That does not mean the ACC is not exploring other avenues.

I think, much like with the ACC GoR, there are those that will use certain subjects in order to try and position certain conferences. I also think, much like with the ACC GoR, that they underestimate certain conferences.

but hey.......this is the realignment board, so it is all fun!
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(03-14-2014 09:16 AM)Tbringer Wrote:  Big surprise. Another non ACC poster makes a comment in a thread on this board and is immediately attacked by the ACC censorship gang with no comment from above.

BTW Miami fan, the only difference regarding the comments that you made is that the ACC actually needs a conference network while the Big 12 conference has tier 3 television rights and a higher television contract.


Is that poster wrong, Oh Knower of All Realignment Issues and Facts?

Does the ACC own all of ND's TV rights except its home football games and hockey games or can ND unilaterally launch its own "Irish Network" using that content?
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(03-14-2014 11:27 AM)Dasville Wrote:  http://beforeitsnews.com/sports/2014/02/...54930.html

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Quote:If I haven’t convinced you this announcement at worst is harmless and at best may even enhance a cable television network for the ACC maybe Damon Phillip the VP Watch ESPN can shed some light on things.

From Variety.com piece on the ESPN announcement.

“We started looking at our portfolio of rights and said, ‘There are conferences who will want a persistent TV channel of their own,’” said Damon Phillips, VP of WatchESPN and ESPN3. And, he added, “having channel adjacency to ESPN in the lineup is something that is very, very valuable.”

Hmm… the ACC is looking into a TV Channel of their own, and this “channel adjacency” is “very very valuable.” Hey those aren’t my words they are ESPNs.
And we have known the first for quite a while and then second is stating the obvious in lieu of saying anything about the prospects of the ACC getting a TV channel of its own.

And on the other quoted section:
Quote: The additional digital services let ESPN, which is majority owned by Disney, negotiate higher carriage fees from cable and satellite TV providers and also present additional ad inventory.

Let me explain what that statement means… WatchESPN is a service provided by your Cable or Satellite provider. As ESPN enhances their digital content they can charge more for their cable channels, because there is more content to view.
This is entirely about the 15 conference-branded streaming apps for the AppleTV and Roku devices. The only implication it has for an actual ACC cable channel is that these offer ESPN an opportunity to leverage ACC content into a bit more revenue without going through the difficult process of negotiating for an additional cable channel and, especially for the ACC footpring, negotiating over the carriage fees to carry the ACC network.
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(03-14-2014 12:26 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(03-14-2014 11:27 AM)Dasville Wrote:  http://beforeitsnews.com/sports/2014/02/...54930.html

excerpt:
Quote:If I haven’t convinced you this announcement at worst is harmless and at best may even enhance a cable television network for the ACC maybe Damon Phillip the VP Watch ESPN can shed some light on things.

From Variety.com piece on the ESPN announcement.

“We started looking at our portfolio of rights and said, ‘There are conferences who will want a persistent TV channel of their own,’” said Damon Phillips, VP of WatchESPN and ESPN3. And, he added, “having channel adjacency to ESPN in the lineup is something that is very, very valuable.”

Hmm… the ACC is looking into a TV Channel of their own, and this “channel adjacency” is “very very valuable.” Hey those aren’t my words they are ESPNs.
And we have known the first for quite a while and then second is stating the obvious in lieu of saying anything about the prospects of the ACC getting a TV channel of its own.

And on the other quoted section:
Quote: The additional digital services let ESPN, which is majority owned by Disney, negotiate higher carriage fees from cable and satellite TV providers and also present additional ad inventory.

Let me explain what that statement means… WatchESPN is a service provided by your Cable or Satellite provider. As ESPN enhances their digital content they can charge more for their cable channels, because there is more content to view.
This is entirely about the 15 conference-branded streaming apps for the AppleTV and Roku devices. The only implication it has for an actual ACC cable channel is that these offer ESPN an opportunity to leverage ACC content into a bit more revenue without going through the difficult process of negotiating for an additional cable channel and, especially for the ACC footpring, negotiating over the carriage fees to carry the ACC network.

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I, like this thread, am exhausted in so many different ways.
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