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RE: Barbee Fired, of course
Does Auburn have any recruits we would want to poach?
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RE: Barbee Fired, of course
Not really. They did have a signee that may decide to go elsewhere now.
About the only thing related may be with Person.
Not sure if he is still an option with UAB, but with a new Auburn coach he may be an option at Auburn.
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RE: Barbee Fired, of course
(03-13-2014 09:55 AM)the_blazerman Wrote: Auburn at least 80% of the time will be a worse job than Alabama.
With all of the other schools in the SEC, getting your W's in the conference will be tough.
Especially with Arkansas, LSU, & now Ole Miss trying to take it up a notch.
This. Anyone they hire needs to look hard at the job to avoid being where Barbee is now. Sure, they'll hire you and pay you pretty good money and it's an SEC job, but for almost every coach who takes the job it's a career wounding if not killing job. How does Barbee's resume look now compared to when he got the job?
If you can get assurances of enough money to hire very good assistants, if the new HC is very good indeed, maybe he digs that program out of the ditch... but more likely is that he struggles a while, has some moderate success, then takes his lumps and his buyout and moves along.
The thing is that most guys who are HC's also have an ego that convinces them that they can do the job where others failed.
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RE: Barbee Fired, of course
(03-13-2014 10:26 AM)the_blazerman Wrote: Not really. They did have a signee that may decide to go elsewhere now.
About the only thing related may be with Person.
Not sure if he is still an option with UAB, but with a new Auburn coach he may be an option at Auburn.
That's part of the problem. I think Barbee may have 2 guys he actually recruited still on the team. He's had a great many misses in recruiting that started with the 2 guys from Central Park Christian that he "swayed" from UAB who are now at Ga State(and doing very little)...
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RE: Barbee Fired, of course
I look at the history of UKY, a BB school that also plays FB, but has not had any real success in it. Then I look at UA and AU, FB schools that also play BB, and have not had a lot of success in it. All 3 schools usually manage to sign one or two (in a good recruiting year) top recruits in their "off brand" sport, but not enough to put a winning team in play. This history is a barrier to the 3 schools getting a top national name coach for their "off brand" program. They are usually the poster child for the "hired to be fired" organization.
I just saw Joe Lunardi's "Bubble list" on ESPN regarding SEC team's probability of making the 2014 NCAA. Locks: Florida and UKY ; Bubble: Ark, UTK, MO and UGA. Note the absence of SEC West teams besides Ark. Back when the East and West were separate, the whole West was usually in a tie (W-L ranking) for 5th place with the East. The West teams could usually only beat each other. I have to think this history is known within the coaching ranks and affects who they can hire.
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03-13-2014 11:05 AM |
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RE: Barbee Fired, of course
(03-13-2014 10:25 AM)Blazing Saddles Wrote: Does Auburn have any recruits we would want to poach?
Wes Person Jr. Is waiting to see who they hire.
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RE: Barbee Fired, of course
(03-13-2014 11:05 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: I look at the history of UKY, a BB school that also plays FB, but has not had any real success in it. Then I look at UA and AU, FB schools that also play BB, and have not had a lot of success in it. All 3 schools usually manage to sign one or two (in a good recruiting year) top recruits in their "off brand" sport, but not enough to put a winning team in play. This history is a barrier to the 3 schools getting a top national name coach for their "off brand" program. They are usually the poster child for the "hired to be fired" organization.
Yep. Let's keep that our little secret though & let them think otherwise.
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RE: Barbee Fired, of course
(03-13-2014 11:17 AM)the_blazerman Wrote: (03-13-2014 11:05 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: I look at the history of UKY, a BB school that also plays FB, but has not had any real success in it. Then I look at UA and AU, FB schools that also play BB, and have not had a lot of success in it. All 3 schools usually manage to sign one or two (in a good recruiting year) top recruits in their "off brand" sport, but not enough to put a winning team in play. This history is a barrier to the 3 schools getting a top national name coach for their "off brand" program. They are usually the poster child for the "hired to be fired" organization.
Yep. Let's keep that our little secret though & let them think otherwise.
At least he managed to talk about UK football without talking about the coaching legacy there.
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RE: Barbee Fired, of course
A friend just got Email from Battle (AD) at Bama endorsing Grant. So Grant appears to be safe.
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RE: Barbee Fired, of course
Grant will have one good year in 2015 and they'll be stuck with him. I'm fine with it.
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03-14-2014 12:42 PM |
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RE: Barbee Fired, of course
Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein
BREAKING --- South Florida has fired Stan Heath, source tells @CBSSports. Story coming.
As expected. I guess Donnie Marsh will be looking for another job...
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RE: Barbee Fired, of course
(03-14-2014 12:38 PM)Jball Wrote: A friend just got Email from Battle (AD) at Bama endorsing Grant. So Grant appears to be safe.
Unless they have a hell of a replacement lined up, it doesn't make any sense to fire Grant right now.
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03-14-2014 01:20 PM |
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RE: Barbee Fired, of course
Stan Heath got fired by USF today, isn't that where Marsh went?
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03-14-2014 01:27 PM |
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RE: Barbee Fired, of course
There are some coaches that are as crooked as can be, yet they still end up with a coaching job.
Heath was one of them, the Missouri coach is another, & Pearl will be back in the mix soon I suppose.
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RE: Barbee Fired, of course
(03-14-2014 01:27 PM)Blazer88 Wrote: Stan Heath got fired by USF today, isn't that where Marsh went?
Yes
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RE: Barbee Fired, of course
(03-14-2014 02:03 PM)the_blazerman Wrote: There are some coaches that are as crooked as can be, yet they still end up with a coaching job.
Heath was one of them, the Missouri coach is another, & Pearl will be back in the mix soon I suppose.
Pearl's Show Cause does not allow contact with student athletes until August, so anyone hiring him would have to contend with that.
Then again, I'm sure there are ways to get around a little thing like that...
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RE: Barbee Fired, of course
(03-14-2014 02:03 PM)the_blazerman Wrote: There are some coaches that are as crooked as can be, yet they still end up with a coaching job.
Heath was one of them, the Missouri coach is another, & Pearl will be back in the mix soon I suppose.
Don't see how Heath is crooked, Pearl isn't really that bad either what he did at UT is now legal to the NCAA. No big time coaches are perfect.
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