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Would having the First Four on a Big East home court be a strategic asset?
Living in Dayton, there has been chatter lately about Dayton having a play-in game on their home court. And of course, we've been watching the play-in games in various different bracketologies to see where the Big East teams are.

Which got me thinking--if we added Dayton as #12, would having the First Four on a Big East home court be a big asset to the conference? It hasn't done much for the A-10, but the Big East is in a different category. Most years it would be a storyline with one or another Big East school playing in the first round in Dayton.
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RE: Would having the First Four on a Big East home court be a strategic asset?
How do you think it could be an asset? PR via conference mentions by TV analysts? Conference decals on court? (do they remove conference decals for the First Four?)

Otherwise, I can't think of how having a conference member host the First Four is advantageous to the conference in any way. Clearly it's a plus for the school and town.
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RE: Would having the First Four on a Big East home court be a strategic asset?
IT would be a propaganda asset. Every time you had a Big East team in the First Four, you'd have the storyline of whether or not Xavier or Providence or Villanova had an edge because of the Dayton Big East crowd, or whether they were playing in hostile territory because they're a Dayton rival. (It wouldn't do much in years that no BE teams were playing in the play-in, err, "first round" games.) X would be in hostile territory, but who knows about everyone else.

I tend to think it would reinforce our "brand" as "the *basketball* conference", with the conference tournament still at MSG and then the start of the NCAA's at UD Arena.
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RE: Would having the First Four on a Big East home court be a strategic asset?
You live in Dayton, John? So do I.

I think that it will be a tough sell to get the NCAA to move from UD Arena for those games. Good crowds, and according to the NCAA themselves, the best run tournament facility in the country. They train every other facility on how to run an NCAA tournament.

Add in the fact that it is within 8 hours driving distance of a HUGE chunk of the population of this country, I think they prefer to possibly allow fans from the schools who get assigned there to make it to the game.
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Would having the First Four on a Big East home court be a strategic asset?
John wasn't proposing the First Four leave Dayton. He was discussing whether or not UD and therefore the First Four is an asset to a conference. Btw. I do recall reading that the NCAA did reject UD or Dayton's request to extend the First Four beyond the current contract. However it was unclear if the rejection was merely the attempt to extend the contract early without allowing other bids (how I interpreted it) or outright rejection of any extension.
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RE: Would having the First Four on a Big East home court be a strategic asset?
Right. I was thinking that hosting the First Four is a bullet point on Dayton's Big East application.

I'm not sure how big a bullet point it is. The idea is to make a propaganda case about the BET at MSG, and the home court of the First Four, being part of the Big East being college basketball royalty.
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RE: Would having the First Four on a Big East home court be a strategic asset?
yeah it is an asset to dayton, but i don't see how it would be an asset to the Big East if they joined.
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RE: Would having the First Four on a Big East home court be a strategic asset?
(03-13-2014 04:09 PM)trephin Wrote:  John wasn't proposing the First Four leave Dayton. He was discussing whether or not UD and therefore the First Four is an asset to a conference. Btw. I do recall reading that the NCAA did reject UD or Dayton's request to extend the First Four beyond the current contract. However it was unclear if the rejection was merely the attempt to extend the contract early without allowing other bids (how I interpreted it) or outright rejection of any extension.

They've continually added 2 or 3 years each time from the beginning of the "play-in" game. I suspect they will do the same here.
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RE: Would having the First Four on a Big East home court be a strategic asset?
Weren't a lot of the Dayton crowd booing X when they came out last night?
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RE: Would having the First Four on a Big East home court be a strategic asset?
(03-19-2014 08:49 AM)dawgitall Wrote:  Weren't a lot of the Dayton crowd booing X when they came out last night?

I'd imagine that is a yes. On top of that, from reports at the game, Xavier had stated that they weren't going to use the "player" seats in the first game (Albana vs Mt. St. Mary's) hence the staff at UD gave those tickets to some local military guys who were on leave. Early on in the game apparently Xavier changed their mind and the military guys had to be moved from low level seats to different seats in the arena. That caused a big scene during the game and a lot of booing then, which probably added to the hostility when Xavier actually took the court.
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