(03-13-2014 10:32 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:01 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 09:43 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 09:39 PM)FuzzyHasek Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 08:41 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  You can continue to say "Louisiana" until you truly believe it but its UL Lafayette. Saying it over and over doesn't change the name. Just saying.

No different then Fresno St San Jose state and a bunch of other schools that use a shorthand name athletically

California's system has no "flagship" all the UC universities are administratively equal same as Louisiana's
La Tech and Northwestern state are the only UL Systems schools older and NWST didn't become a university till 1970

LA tech has a "flagship" name already and Tulane lost the name when it became private and no other university in the system is as old as UL

Some people just have an agenda. That is fine, the branding effort is gaining national traction and that is all that matters.

By the way, the new stadium looks really nice. Hopefully the Cajuns can get a home and home with Houston in a few years once we are complete with the renovations.

National? Regional maybe I can see but not national. Your still (and likely always to be) ULL around the midwest. And quite honestly I don't see why it's that big of a deal on either side of the argument. You guys are what you are in the national eye and that's not going to change no matter what you call yourselves. As someone already pointed out, there are several UL's but only 1 ULL, so own it.

Nevada went thru the same thing a few years ago branding themselves as Nevada while their official name is Nevada Reno. The media called them Nevada Reno for years until Nevada finally got traction and that is how they are referred to today. No confusion with UNLV.

Not hard to look at us the same way. Our official name is the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Athletically, we are Louisiana. UL Monroe has branded itself as ULM. LOUISIANA & ULM, similar to NEVADA & UNLV.

Anyway, you can feel free to refer to us by any name you choose. LOUISIANA is slowly getting national traction and it is how we refer to ourselves. No need to make a name issue out of something that has no impact on you or any other school. BTW, there are several UM's (Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Minnesota, Mississippi) and no one has a problem figuring out which school is which. Why UL should be problematic and why anyone outside of Louisiana should care that we call ourselves Louisiana is perplexing.

Thanks for the response and that's a good point with Nevada. I guess what i fail to see is why it's so important for you guys to be branded as Louisiana athletically, what do you hope to gain? Schools like UCLA and UNLV had to start somewhere and they embraced the acronym with the city name in it. Even a school like UTEP is nationally known as that. Is there some sort of benefit outside of bragging rights for being thought of as THE school of Louisiana? Just curious it's an honest question because you guys are clearly very passionate about it.

It works on the flipside as well, it's confusing that it bothers so many people what you guys think of yourselves as. LSU is still going to be LSU and Tulane is still known as Tulane. Outside of Louisiana it doesn't hurt any of us what you guys call yourselves whether it's a misrepresentation or not.

Anyways I'm just rambling now. Just trying to understand both sides and why it's so troublesome.

(03-13-2014 12:38 PM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:32 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:01 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 09:43 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 09:39 PM)FuzzyHasek Wrote:  No different then Fresno St San Jose state and a bunch of other schools that use a shorthand name athletically

California's system has no "flagship" all the UC universities are administratively equal same as Louisiana's
La Tech and Northwestern state are the only UL Systems schools older and NWST didn't become a university till 1970

LA tech has a "flagship" name already and Tulane lost the name when it became private and no other university in the system is as old as UL

Some people just have an agenda. That is fine, the branding effort is gaining national traction and that is all that matters.

By the way, the new stadium looks really nice. Hopefully the Cajuns can get a home and home with Houston in a few years once we are complete with the renovations.

National? Regional maybe I can see but not national. Your still (and likely always to be) ULL around the midwest. And quite honestly I don't see why it's that big of a deal on either side of the argument. You guys are what you are in the national eye and that's not going to change no matter what you call yourselves. As someone already pointed out, there are several UL's but only 1 ULL, so own it.

Nevada went thru the same thing a few years ago branding themselves as Nevada while their official name is Nevada Reno. The media called them Nevada Reno for years until Nevada finally got traction and that is how they are referred to today. No confusion with UNLV.

Not hard to look at us the same way. Our official name is the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Athletically, we are Louisiana. UL Monroe has branded itself as ULM. LOUISIANA & ULM, similar to NEVADA & UNLV.

Anyway, you can feel free to refer to us by any name you choose. LOUISIANA is slowly getting national traction and it is how we refer to ourselves. No need to make a name issue out of something that has no impact on you or any other school. BTW, there are several UM's (Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Minnesota, Mississippi) and no one has a problem figuring out which school is which. Why UL should be problematic and why anyone outside of Louisiana should care that we call ourselves Louisiana is perplexing.

Thanks for the response and that's a good point with Nevada. I guess what i fail to see is why it's so important for you guys to be branded as Louisiana athletically, what do you hope to gain? Schools like UCLA and UNLV had to start somewhere and they embraced the acronym with the city name in it. Even a school like UTEP is nationally known as that. Is there some sort of benefit outside of bragging rights for being thought of as THE school of Louisiana? Just curious it's an honest question because you guys are clearly very passionate about it.

It works on the flipside as well, it's confusing that it bothers so many people what you guys think of yourselves as. LSU is still going to be LSU and Tulane is still known as Tulane. Outside of Louisiana it doesn't hurt any of us what you guys call yourselves whether it's a misrepresentation or not.

Anyways I'm just rambling now. Just trying to understand both sides and why it's so troublesome.

Would you rather be Ohio State University at Cincinnati or UC?

The media makes a huge deal about "directional" names.
This isn't a new thing UL has been trying to officialy be Louisiana for DECADES

(03-13-2014 02:44 PM)FuzzyHasek Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 12:38 PM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:32 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:01 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 09:43 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  Some people just have an agenda. That is fine, the branding effort is gaining national traction and that is all that matters.

By the way, the new stadium looks really nice. Hopefully the Cajuns can get a home and home with Houston in a few years once we are complete with the renovations.

National? Regional maybe I can see but not national. Your still (and likely always to be) ULL around the midwest. And quite honestly I don't see why it's that big of a deal on either side of the argument. You guys are what you are in the national eye and that's not going to change no matter what you call yourselves. As someone already pointed out, there are several UL's but only 1 ULL, so own it.

Nevada went thru the same thing a few years ago branding themselves as Nevada while their official name is Nevada Reno. The media called them Nevada Reno for years until Nevada finally got traction and that is how they are referred to today. No confusion with UNLV.

Not hard to look at us the same way. Our official name is the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Athletically, we are Louisiana. UL Monroe has branded itself as ULM. LOUISIANA & ULM, similar to NEVADA & UNLV.

Anyway, you can feel free to refer to us by any name you choose. LOUISIANA is slowly getting national traction and it is how we refer to ourselves. No need to make a name issue out of something that has no impact on you or any other school. BTW, there are several UM's (Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Minnesota, Mississippi) and no one has a problem figuring out which school is which. Why UL should be problematic and why anyone outside of Louisiana should care that we call ourselves Louisiana is perplexing.

Thanks for the response and that's a good point with Nevada. I guess what i fail to see is why it's so important for you guys to be branded as Louisiana athletically, what do you hope to gain? Schools like UCLA and UNLV had to start somewhere and they embraced the acronym with the city name in it. Even a school like UTEP is nationally known as that. Is there some sort of benefit outside of bragging rights for being thought of as THE school of Louisiana? Just curious it's an honest question because you guys are clearly very passionate about it.

It works on the flipside as well, it's confusing that it bothers so many people what you guys think of yourselves as. LSU is still going to be LSU and Tulane is still known as Tulane. Outside of Louisiana it doesn't hurt any of us what you guys call yourselves whether it's a misrepresentation or not.

Anyways I'm just rambling now. Just trying to understand both sides and why it's so troublesome.

Would you rather be Ohio State University at Cincinnati or UC?

The media makes a huge deal about "directional" names.
This isn't a new thing UL has been trying to officialy be Louisiana for DECADES

Since 1984 when the name was legally changed. Had a graduating class and the LSU back politicians retroactively changed a law that allowed UNO and La Tech to change their names as well.

So this has been a 30 year fight.

(03-13-2014 02:44 PM)FuzzyHasek Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 12:38 PM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:32 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 10:01 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(03-12-2014 09:43 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  Some people just have an agenda. That is fine, the branding effort is gaining national traction and that is all that matters.

By the way, the new stadium looks really nice. Hopefully the Cajuns can get a home and home with Houston in a few years once we are complete with the renovations.

National? Regional maybe I can see but not national. Your still (and likely always to be) ULL around the midwest. And quite honestly I don't see why it's that big of a deal on either side of the argument. You guys are what you are in the national eye and that's not going to change no matter what you call yourselves. As someone already pointed out, there are several UL's but only 1 ULL, so own it.

Nevada went thru the same thing a few years ago branding themselves as Nevada while their official name is Nevada Reno. The media called them Nevada Reno for years until Nevada finally got traction and that is how they are referred to today. No confusion with UNLV.

Not hard to look at us the same way. Our official name is the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Athletically, we are Louisiana. UL Monroe has branded itself as ULM. LOUISIANA & ULM, similar to NEVADA & UNLV.

Anyway, you can feel free to refer to us by any name you choose. LOUISIANA is slowly getting national traction and it is how we refer to ourselves. No need to make a name issue out of something that has no impact on you or any other school. BTW, there are several UM's (Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Minnesota, Mississippi) and no one has a problem figuring out which school is which. Why UL should be problematic and why anyone outside of Louisiana should care that we call ourselves Louisiana is perplexing.

Thanks for the response and that's a good point with Nevada. I guess what i fail to see is why it's so important for you guys to be branded as Louisiana athletically, what do you hope to gain? Schools like UCLA and UNLV had to start somewhere and they embraced the acronym with the city name in it. Even a school like UTEP is nationally known as that. Is there some sort of benefit outside of bragging rights for being thought of as THE school of Louisiana? Just curious it's an honest question because you guys are clearly very passionate about it.

It works on the flipside as well, it's confusing that it bothers so many people what you guys think of yourselves as. LSU is still going to be LSU and Tulane is still known as Tulane. Outside of Louisiana it doesn't hurt any of us what you guys call yourselves whether it's a misrepresentation or not.

Anyways I'm just rambling now. Just trying to understand both sides and why it's so troublesome.

Would you rather be Ohio State University at Cincinnati or UC?

The media makes a huge deal about "directional" names.
This isn't a new thing UL has been trying to officialy be Louisiana for DECADES

You are exactly right. Our official name, the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, does not change, just our preferred athletic reference, Louisiana. I'm not sure most people realize that the majority of the major colleges have city tags with their official names. Some examples are Texas at Austin, Nebraska Lincoln, Wisconsin Madison, Minnesota Twin Cities, Nevada Reno, Cal Berkeley, North Carolina at Chapel Hill, etc., etc. It has nothing to do with Flagship status or how long a university has had a name reference, it is still a shortened version of their official name that THEY selected and everyone follows. Using your Ohio State example, LSU's official name is Louisiana State University Agricultural and Mechanical College. They could be LSU A&M, like Texas A&M, but chose to only be referred to as LSU. Georgia Tech is the Georgia Institute of Technology, GIT. However, they go by GT or Georgia Tech, a preferred reference. Cal State Fresno goes by Fresno State. Virginian Polytechnic Institute and State University, VPISU, chose simply VA Tech.

From a Houston fan congratulations on your new facilities. We certainly understand what an important milestone this is and how for decades you never thought you would see the day it would happen.

Good luck to you guys. I'm always happy to see programs invest and stay in the game and compete. Many would just rather see some of us roll over and go away.


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(03-13-2014 09:23 PM)quintas Wrote:  From a Houston fan congratulations on your new facilities. We certainly understand what an important milestone this is and how for decades you never thought you would see the day it would happen.

Good luck to you guys. I'm always happy to see programs invest and stay in the game and compete. Many would just rather see some of us roll over and go away.


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Thanks. Congrats also on your new stadium. We all have to continue to invest in athletics to compete. Congrats to all who have and are doing so. Many of us want to ascend to a higher level and having upgraded facilities is one of the keys. We may have a tougher road than some because of a former President who would not properly fund athletics. However, under new leadership, this has changed dramatically. We are necessarily on a fast track and you are seeing it in the success we are having on the field and now in our facility upgrades. UH is a great model of what a dynamic President can do for a university. You have had a lot of success on the field, in facility upgrades, and in academics. Living in Houston, I have seen the changes that all UH alumni can take pride in.

(03-13-2014 04:34 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  [You are exactly right. Our official name, the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, does not change, just our preferred athletic reference, Louisiana. I'm not sure most people realize that the majority of the major colleges have city tags with their official names. Some examples are Texas at Austin, Nebraska Lincoln, Wisconsin Madison, Minnesota Twin Cities, Nevada Reno, Cal Berkeley, North Carolina at Chapel Hill, etc., etc. It has nothing to do with Flagship status or how long a university has had a name reference, it is still a shortened version of their official name that THEY selected and everyone follows. Using your Ohio State example, LSU's official name is Louisiana State University Agricultural and Mechanical College. They could be LSU A&M, like Texas A&M, but chose to only be referred to as LSU. Georgia Tech is the Georgia Institute of Technology, GIT. However, they go by GT or Georgia Tech, a preferred reference. Cal State Fresno goes by Fresno State. Virginian Polytechnic Institute and State University, VPISU, chose simply VA Tech.

In most of the cases you cited, those schools own the trademarks to their alternative names. That would be my concern. Does UL-L own the University of Louisiana trademark? If they don't and the name catches on, that could be a good deal of money they would be leaving behind.

(03-14-2014 11:02 AM)prp Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 04:34 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  [You are exactly right. Our official name, the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, does not change, just our preferred athletic reference, Louisiana. I'm not sure most people realize that the majority of the major colleges have city tags with their official names. Some examples are Texas at Austin, Nebraska Lincoln, Wisconsin Madison, Minnesota Twin Cities, Nevada Reno, Cal Berkeley, North Carolina at Chapel Hill, etc., etc. It has nothing to do with Flagship status or how long a university has had a name reference, it is still a shortened version of their official name that THEY selected and everyone follows. Using your Ohio State example, LSU's official name is Louisiana State University Agricultural and Mechanical College. They could be LSU A&M, like Texas A&M, but chose to only be referred to as LSU. Georgia Tech is the Georgia Institute of Technology, GIT. However, they go by GT or Georgia Tech, a preferred reference. Cal State Fresno goes by Fresno State. Virginian Polytechnic Institute and State University, VPISU, chose simply VA Tech.

In most of the cases you cited, those schools own the trademarks to their alternative names. That would be my concern. Does UL-L own the University of Louisiana trademark? If they don't and the name catches on, that could be a good deal of money they would be leaving behind.

UL owns the Louisiana Ragin Cajuns trademark. Understand, we are not using University of Louisiana. We are using only Louisiana athletically.

(03-14-2014 11:08 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 11:02 AM)prp Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 04:34 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  [You are exactly right. Our official name, the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, does not change, just our preferred athletic reference, Louisiana. I'm not sure most people realize that the majority of the major colleges have city tags with their official names. Some examples are Texas at Austin, Nebraska Lincoln, Wisconsin Madison, Minnesota Twin Cities, Nevada Reno, Cal Berkeley, North Carolina at Chapel Hill, etc., etc. It
has nothing to do with Flagship status or how long a university has had a name reference, it is still a shortened version of their official name that THEY selected and everyone follows. Using your Ohio State example, LSU's official name is Louisiana State University Agricultural and Mechanical College. They could be LSU A&M, like Texas A&M, but chose to only be referred to as LSU. Georgia Tech is the Georgia Institute of Technology, GIT. However, they go by GT or Georgia Tech, a preferred reference. Cal State Fresno goes by Fresno State. Virginian Polytechnic Institute and State University, VPISU, chose simply VA Tech.

In most of the cases you cited, those schools own the trademarks to their alternative names. That would be my concern. Does UL-L own the University of Louisiana trademark? If they don't and the name catches on, that could be a good deal of money they would be leaving behind.

UL owns the Louisiana Ragin Cajuns trademark. Understand, we are not using University of Louisiana. We are using only Louisiana athletically.

Ok so you guys aren't a school now, but a state? Nice try. You may only put "Louisiana" on the jerseys, but you're still implying "Louisiana University". Frankly it doesnt matter to me, I just dislike the dishonesty in it. You're splitting hairs at best. Soundd like a group of lawyers got into your school leadership's head and convinced them this would propel ULL into a better situation. IMO, it just comes off as a cheap ploy. ULL is better than that. And once again, I'm not hating on ULL. I fully enjoyed watching your bowl game against Tulane, and your crowd support was amazing, so understand i'm just being objective.

(03-14-2014 02:06 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 11:08 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 11:02 AM)prp Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 04:34 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  [You are exactly right. Our official name, the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, does not change, just our preferred athletic reference, Louisiana. I'm not sure most people realize that the majority of the major colleges have city tags with their official names. Some examples are Texas at Austin, Nebraska Lincoln, Wisconsin Madison, Minnesota Twin Cities, Nevada Reno, Cal Berkeley, North Carolina at Chapel Hill, etc., etc. It has nothing to do with Flagship status or how long a university has had a name reference, it is still a shortened version of their official name that THEY selected and everyone follows. Using your Ohio State example, LSU's official name is Louisiana State University Agricultural and Mechanical College. They could be LSU A&M, like Texas A&M, but chose to only be referred to as LSU. Georgia Tech is the Georgia Institute of Technology, GIT. However, they go by GT or Georgia Tech, a preferred reference. Cal State Fresno goes by Fresno State. Virginian Polytechnic Institute and State University, VPISU, chose simply VA Tech.

In most of the cases you cited, those schools own the trademarks to their alternative names. That would be my concern. Does UL-L own the University of Louisiana trademark? If they don't and the name catches on, that could be a good deal of money they would be leaving behind.

UL owns the Louisiana Ragin Cajuns trademark. Understand, we are not using University of Louisiana. We are using only Louisiana athletically.

Ok so you guys aren't a school now, but a state? Nice try. You may only put "Louisiana" on the jerseys, but you're still implying "Louisiana University". Frankly it doesnt matter to me, I just dislike the dishonesty in it. You're splitting hairs at best.

That is absurd! What dishonesty? Is Virgina Tech dishonest when it doesn't calls itself VA Tech instead of Virginia Polytechnic Instute and State University? Is LSU A&M dishonest when it calls itself LSU? Is the University of Texas at Austin dishonest when it calls itself Texas? We are the University of Louisiana at Lafayette and call ourselves Louisiana. Why the exception for us? I don't get it.

(03-14-2014 02:14 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 02:06 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 11:08 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 11:02 AM)prp Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 04:34 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  [You are exactly right. Our official name, the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, does not change, just our preferred athletic reference, Louisiana. I'm not sure most people realize that the majority of the major colleges have city tags with their official names. Some examples are Texas at Austin, Nebraska Lincoln, Wisconsin Madison, Minnesota Twin Cities, Nevada Reno, Cal Berkeley, North Carolina at Chapel Hill, etc., etc. It has nothing to do with Flagship status or how long a university has had a name reference, it is still a shortened version of their official name that THEY selected and everyone follows. Using your Ohio State example, LSU's official name is Louisiana State University Agricultural and Mechanical College. They could be LSU A&M, like Texas A&M, but chose to only be referred to as LSU. Georgia Tech is the Georgia Institute of Technology, GIT. However, they go by GT or Georgia Tech, a preferred reference. Cal State Fresno goes by Fresno State. Virginian Polytechnic Institute and State University, VPISU, chose simply VA Tech.

In most of the cases you cited, those schools own the trademarks to their alternative names. That would be my concern. Does UL-L own the University of Louisiana trademark? If they don't and the name catches on, that could be a good deal of money they would be leaving behind.

UL owns the Louisiana Ragin Cajuns trademark. Understand, we are not using University of Louisiana. We are using only Louisiana athletically.

Ok so you guys aren't a school now, but a state? Nice try. You may only put "Louisiana" on the jerseys, but you're still implying "Louisiana University". Frankly it doesnt matter to me, I just dislike the dishonesty in it. You're splitting hairs at best.

That is absurd! What dishonesty? Is Virgina Tech dishonest when it doesn't calls itself VA Tech instead of Virginia Polytechnic Instute and State University? Is LSU A&M dishonest when it calls itself LSU? Is the University of Texas at Austin dishonest when it calls itself Texas? We are the University of Louisiana at Lafayette and call ourselves Louisiana. Why the exception for us? I don't get it.

Strawman argument. Sorry, not participating in it.

Well, yeah, we're University of North Texas, but we're going to call ourselves Texas. Y'all just go along with that, ok?

(03-14-2014 02:20 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 02:14 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 02:06 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 11:08 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 11:02 AM)prp Wrote:  In most of the cases you cited, those schools own the trademarks to their alternative names. That would be my concern. Does UL-L own the University of Louisiana trademark? If they don't and the name catches on, that could be a good deal of money they would be leaving behind.

UL owns the Louisiana Ragin Cajuns trademark. Understand, we are not using University of Louisiana. We are using only Louisiana athletically.

Ok so you guys aren't a school now, but a state? Nice try. You may only put "Louisiana" on the jerseys, but you're still implying "Louisiana University". Frankly it doesnt matter to me, I just dislike the dishonesty in it. You're splitting hairs at best.

That is absurd! What dishonesty? Is Virgina Tech dishonest when it doesn't calls itself VA Tech instead of Virginia Polytechnic Instute and State University? Is LSU A&M dishonest when it calls itself LSU? Is the University of Texas at Austin dishonest when it calls itself Texas? We are the University of Louisiana at Lafayette and call ourselves Louisiana. Why the exception for us? I don't get it.

Strawman argument. Sorry, not participating in it.

Not trying to create and argument, but please explain why it is OK for all of these other schools to shorten their name without using University or other portions of their , but somehow we should not be doing that.

(03-14-2014 02:30 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  Well, yeah, we're University of North Texas, but we're going to call ourselves Texas. Y'all just go along with that, ok?

That is not the same thing at all. Using Nevada as an example, the University of Nevada Reno calls itself Nevada. It has the University of Nevada in its name. The University of Texas at Austin calls itself Texas. It has the University of Texas in its name. UNT does not have the University of Texas in its name, it is the University of North Texas. We are the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Like Nevada and Texas, the University of Louisiana is in our name. Use of Louisiana is perfectly legal and is what almost every major university does in shortening their name per the examples I gave in another post. Why the insistence on setting a different standard for Louisiana? Why does someone from Rice care what we call ourselves?

So ULM should be able to call themselves "Louisiana" too

(03-14-2014 02:06 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 11:08 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 11:02 AM)prp Wrote:  

(03-13-2014 04:34 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  [You are exactly right. Our official name, the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, does not change, just our preferred athletic reference, Louisiana. I'm not sure most people realize that the majority of the major colleges have city tags with their official names. Some examples are Texas at Austin, Nebraska Lincoln, Wisconsin Madison, Minnesota Twin Cities, Nevada Reno, Cal Berkeley, North Carolina at Chapel Hill, etc., etc. It
has nothing to do with Flagship status or how long a university has had a name reference, it is still a shortened version of their official name that THEY selected and everyone follows. Using your Ohio State example, LSU's official name is Louisiana State University Agricultural and Mechanical College. They could be LSU A&M, like Texas A&M, but chose to only be referred to as LSU. Georgia Tech is the Georgia Institute of Technology, GIT. However, they go by GT or Georgia Tech, a preferred reference. Cal State Fresno goes by Fresno State. Virginian Polytechnic Institute and State University, VPISU, chose simply VA Tech.

In most of the cases you cited, those schools own the trademarks to their alternative names. That would be my concern. Does UL-L own the University of Louisiana trademark? If they don't and the name catches on, that could be a good deal of money they would be leaving behind.

UL owns the Louisiana Ragin Cajuns trademark. Understand, we are not using University of Louisiana. We are using only Louisiana athletically.

Ok so you guys aren't a school now, but a state? Nice try. You may only put "Louisiana" on the jerseys, but you're still implying "Louisiana University". Frankly it doesn't matter to me, I just dislike the dishonesty in it. You're splitting hairs at best. Sound like a group of lawyers got into your school leadership's head and convinced them this would propel ULL into a better situation. IMO, it just comes off as a cheap ploy. ULL is better than that. And once again, I'm not hating on ULL. I fully enjoyed watching your bowl game against Tulane, and your crowd support was amazing, so understand i'm just being objective.

Obviously you do care since you keep coming back to the thread. It's no more dishonest then CSU Fresno and CSU San Jose going by Fresno St and San Jose St

Name one state school that puts University of "State" on their Jerseys
Its always just the state name, South Carolina doesn't even use South
Tennessee's Academic logo is UTK yet they just go by Tennessee athletically

The UL System is a cluster**** of higher ed to protect LSU
the University of Louisiana name denotes flagship status in Louisiana about as much as Ohio University does in Ohio

(03-14-2014 04:31 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  So ULM should be able to call themselves "Louisiana" too

UL is senior by 33 years and the UL system has no designated flagship (Just like the California systems)

LSU-1860
La Tech- 1894
UL-1898

Virtually every state has U of "State", "State" State/A&M/Tech but Louisiana cant?

(03-14-2014 04:31 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  So ULM should be able to call themselves "Louisiana" too

UL Monroe has chosen to brand itself as ULM. UNLV and UCLA could just as easily call themselves Nevada and CAL. But they go by their preferred acronyms. So, there is Nevada and UNLV and Cal and UCLA. Similarly, we have Louisiana and ULM. Why are you worried about ULM? They are calling themselves what they want to.

This is literally no different than UT-Austin calling themselves Texas.

Louisiana is a sleeping giant and just going by Louisiana is a very smart move.

(03-14-2014 05:06 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(03-14-2014 04:31 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  So ULM should be able to call themselves "Louisiana" too

UL Monroe has chosen to brand itself as ULM. UNLV and UCLA could just as easily call themselves Nevada and CAL. But they go by their preferred acronyms. So, there is Nevada and UNLV and Cal and UCLA. Similarly, we have Louisiana and ULM. Why are you worried about ULM? They are calling themselves what they want to.

Really? Because they seem pretty upset about it.