smn1256
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8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
I have no idea why they're not paying their dues since just about every teacher claims to love their union.
Quote:Just over a year ago the state of Michigan passed a right-to-work law ruling that the state's teachers cannot be forced by law to belong to a union as they had been before. Since then the state teachers union has claimed that it lost only a few members. Still the union was also forced to admit that 8,000 teachers have stopped paying dues.
In October of last year, the Michigan Education Association (MEA) made the claim that "99 percent" of its members remained happily unionized despite the state's ten-month-old worker freedom law.
It is true that the union has allowed some teachers to leave without opposition as long as they had filed their separation papers last year in August, the one month during the year that the union claims teachers are "allowed" to leave. State law does not sanction this. It is only a union policy.
Regardless that it is not an enforceable law, the union threatened to send teachers who stopped paying dues to collection agencies. Letters were also sent to all union members that they must hand over bank and credit card account numbers so that the union can automatically deduct dues from their accounts.
As a result, the Mackinac Center, a free market think tank in Michigan, filed a lawsuit against the MEA for attempting to force teachers to stay in the union and to continue to pay dues against their will.
Shortly after the lawsuit was filed the union informed the teachers named in the lawsuit that they were no longer members and back dues were no longer being sought.
As noted, the MEA has claimed that few teachers have left the union. MEA officials say that only around 1,500 teachers have quit the union since the right-to-work law passed in 2012.
Despite that sunny claim, the union's executive director, Gretchen Dziadosz, recently admitted that 8,000 teachers are in arrears with their dues.
The new state law maintains that union dues are no longer to be automatically deducted from teachers' paychecks by the State of Michigan. That means teachers are supposed to pay their dues on their own.
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gdunn
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RE: 8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
So they won't be protected by the union? What a shame and good for them.
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03-11-2014 11:57 AM |
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AngryAphid
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RE: 8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
(03-11-2014 11:57 AM)gdunn Wrote: So they won't be protected by the union? What a shame and good for them.
Apparently they won't be protected by the union, or from the union.
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03-11-2014 12:14 PM |
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gdunn
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RE: 8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
(03-11-2014 12:14 PM)AngryAphid Wrote: (03-11-2014 11:57 AM)gdunn Wrote: So they won't be protected by the union? What a shame and good for them.
Apparently they won't be protected by the union, or from the union.
Something like that. Damn crooks.. The union.
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03-11-2014 12:17 PM |
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Machiavelli
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RE: 8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
You pay for the negotiating power of the union. I can't believe some low life's would be ok letting someone else bargain their wage and then not pay for that privilege. They wouldn't make that wage if not for the union. We have 8000 run of the mill scum in Michigan.
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03-11-2014 02:52 PM |
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RE: 8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
God Bless America. 8000 more people throwing off the bondage of forced servitude and finally experiencing true Liberty. Godspeed to these good, hard working, deserving Patriots.
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RE: 8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
(03-11-2014 02:52 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: You pay for the negotiating power of the union. I can't believe some low life's would be ok letting someone else bargain their wage and then not pay for that privilege. They wouldn't make that wage if not for the union. We have 8000 run of the mill scum in Michigan.
I thought you lived in Slohio...?
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03-11-2014 03:40 PM |
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gdunn
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RE: 8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
Bargain their wage? Who you think benefits more from that? Not the teachers.
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03-11-2014 03:42 PM |
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RE: 8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
I know a few teachers who are only in the union because of the liability policy.
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03-11-2014 03:42 PM |
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AngryAphid
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RE: 8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
(03-11-2014 02:52 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: You pay for the negotiating power of the union. I can't believe some low life's would be ok letting someone else bargain their wage and then not pay for that privilege. They wouldn't make that wage if not for the union. We have 8000 run of the mill scum in Michigan.
Something to consider when the “ teachers are underpaid” mantra is spewed.
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03-11-2014 03:45 PM |
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RE: 8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
Pretty clear there are 8000 teachers in Michigan who are Republicans and don't want their money going to support Democrats.
They probably are the ones who actually put the kids first.
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03-11-2014 04:34 PM |
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Machiavelli
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RE: 8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
Riiiiiggghhhtttt. Again, you guys have no clue. It's the Art teacher who married poorly who needs the 485 dollars and is willing to take the ribbing during teacher's meetings. It's uncomfortable for her once a year after awhile people forget. Now if push came to shove and she crossed a picket... persona non grata the rest of her career.
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AngryAphid
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RE: 8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
$485 and only used once a year.
Sounds like the typical gym membership.
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03-11-2014 04:56 PM |
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Machiavelli
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RE: 8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
For the most part but over a career the union will pay for itself many many many many many times over. Just look at the salaries in the right to work states vs. Union States.
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03-11-2014 05:36 PM |
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RE: 8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
(03-11-2014 05:36 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: For the most part but over a career the union will pay for itself many many many many many times over. Just look at the salaries in the right to work states vs. Union States.
Yeah and look at the cost of living and the higher tax rates.
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03-11-2014 05:51 PM |
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RE: 8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
(03-11-2014 04:44 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: It's the Art teacher who married poorly who needs the 485 dollars and is willing to take the ribbing during teacher's meetings. It's uncomfortable for her once a year after awhile people forget. Now if push came to shove and she crossed a picket... persona non grata the rest of her career.
Sounds sorta like a gang looking for it's tribute money...
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03-11-2014 06:01 PM |
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Re: 8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
You mean that super high amount that all of my non union hourly employees will make more than this year? Sounds like a super deal. It frightens me that you are teaching the next generation.
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03-11-2014 08:03 PM |
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Machiavelli
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RE: 8000 Michigan teachers not paying their union dues
You mean that super high amount that all of my non union hourly employees will make more than this year?
Do I need my super secret decoder ring???????? WTF are you even blathering about.
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03-11-2014 08:27 PM |
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