(03-22-2014 02:15 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 01:10 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 05:02 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  One player in the secondary single-handedly cost us two games last year. Fact.

I'll take the bait. How do you figure that?

Delaware and Akron. Fish on.

Pretty sure we win Akron if our senior RB doesn't commit a personal foul late in the game. But yeah, go ahead and blame a freshman corner who was getting no help from a safety either.

(03-22-2014 05:33 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 02:15 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 01:10 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 05:02 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  One player in the secondary single-handedly cost us two games last year. Fact.

I'll take the bait. How do you figure that?

Delaware and Akron. Fish on.

Pretty sure we win Akron if our senior RB doesn't commit a personal foul late in the game. But yeah, go ahead and blame a freshman corner who was getting no help from a safety either.

a r-FR that our coaching staff had raved about since Spring ball last year.

(03-22-2014 05:35 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 05:33 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 02:15 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 01:10 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 05:02 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  One player in the secondary single-handedly cost us two games last year. Fact.

I'll take the bait. How do you figure that?

Delaware and Akron. Fish on.

Pretty sure we win Akron if our senior RB doesn't commit a personal foul late in the game. But yeah, go ahead and blame a freshman corner who was getting no help from a safety either.

a r-FR that our coaching staff had raved about since Spring ball last year.

Whatever. If he's giving up big play after big play then change the ******* defense and give him safety help. One player never wins or loses a damn game.

People crack me up with their ignorance. Corners aren't always supposed to get help from safeties. That kind of statement just shows how little you know about football.

(03-22-2014 05:38 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 05:35 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 05:33 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 02:15 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 01:10 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  I'll take the bait. How do you figure that?

Delaware and Akron. Fish on.

Pretty sure we win Akron if our senior RB doesn't commit a personal foul late in the game. But yeah, go ahead and blame a freshman corner who was getting no help from a safety either.

a r-FR that our coaching staff had raved about since Spring ball last year.

Whatever. If he's giving up big play after big play then change the ******* defense and give him safety help. One player never wins or loses a damn game.

One player wins or loses games in lots of different sports all the time. Fumbles, errors, dropped ball, stupid foul, missed assignment, etc.

The sin is watching the same person make the same mistake over and over and continue to not understand their role.

(03-22-2014 06:14 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 05:38 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 05:35 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 05:33 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 02:15 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  Delaware and Akron. Fish on.

Pretty sure we win Akron if our senior RB doesn't commit a personal foul late in the game. But yeah, go ahead and blame a freshman corner who was getting no help from a safety either.

a r-FR that our coaching staff had raved about since Spring ball last year.

Whatever. If he's giving up big play after big play then change the ******* defense and give him safety help. One player never wins or loses a damn game.

One player wins or loses games in lots of different sports all the time. Fumbles, errors, dropped ball, stupid foul, missed assignment, etc.

The sin is watching the same person make the same mistake over and over and continue to not understand their role.

You hit the nail on the head there....watching, allowing the same player make the same mistakes over and over again. There was no learning from mistakes.

(03-22-2014 06:14 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 05:38 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 05:35 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 05:33 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 02:15 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  Delaware and Akron. Fish on.

Pretty sure we win Akron if our senior RB doesn't commit a personal foul late in the game. But yeah, go ahead and blame a freshman corner who was getting no help from a safety either.

a r-FR that our coaching staff had raved about since Spring ball last year.

Whatever. If he's giving up big play after big play then change the ******* defense and give him safety help. One player never wins or loses a damn game.

One player wins or loses games in lots of different sports all the time. Fumbles, errors, dropped ball, stupid foul, missed assignment, etc.

The sin is watching the same person make the same mistake over and over and continue to not understand their role.

Exactly. Just ask the VCU player about his 4 point foul last night how he feels.

(03-22-2014 02:51 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 02:09 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 10:52 AM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  I don't have the film other than a couple games on DVR which doesn't show much. You need the coaches tape from the end zone to really break stuff down. The thing that showed me they weren't very good is they often looked overmatched up front against teams like Albany and Stony Brook which aren't even fully funded with scholarships.

SBU has been at/near 63 schollies for about 5 years. That's why they left the NEC after the 2007 season to join the Big South so they could go full scholly. Heck, in 2011 they only lost @ NC game participant SHSU 34-27 in the second round. In 2012 they were a qtr final team that handily beat VU in the 1st round before losing @ Montana State 16-10 in the second round.

How ridiculous is it that we're even having a discussion and you're making an argument about how Stony Brook owned us on the line of scrimmage. I don't care who is offended about the guys getting soft, but they were soft. That can't happen.

You said SBU wasn't full funded scholly wise and I was simply pointing out that was incorrect- they were fully funded. That is all.

(03-22-2014 06:52 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 02:51 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 02:09 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 10:52 AM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  I don't have the film other than a couple games on DVR which doesn't show much. You need the coaches tape from the end zone to really break stuff down. The thing that showed me they weren't very good is they often looked overmatched up front against teams like Albany and Stony Brook which aren't even fully funded with scholarships.

SBU has been at/near 63 schollies for about 5 years. That's why they left the NEC after the 2007 season to join the Big South so they could go full scholly. Heck, in 2011 they only lost @ NC game participant SHSU 34-27 in the second round. In 2012 they were a qtr final team that handily beat VU in the 1st round before losing @ Montana State 16-10 in the second round.

How ridiculous is it that we're even having a discussion and you're making an argument about how Stony Brook owned us on the line of scrimmage. I don't care who is offended about the guys getting soft, but they were soft. That can't happen.

You said SBU wasn't full funded scholly wise and I was simply pointing out that was incorrect- they were fully funded. That is all.

Are you OK with them blowing JMU off the ball?

I blame that knucklehead Corey Davis for last year's failure. Him and his lack of judgement in that marijuana buy gone bad. Wound up getting him kicked off the team. A returning starter at corner would have obviously helped out immensely as we were already thin there. We also lost corner depth in that same stupid incident as Xavier Crocker got booted too.

(03-22-2014 02:51 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 02:09 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 10:52 AM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  I don't have the film other than a couple games on DVR which doesn't show much. You need the coaches tape from the end zone to really break stuff down. The thing that showed me they weren't very good is they often looked overmatched up front against teams like Albany and Stony Brook which aren't even fully funded with scholarships.

SBU has been at/near 63 schollies for about 5 years. That's why they left the NEC after the 2007 season to join the Big South so they could go full scholly. Heck, in 2011 they only lost @ NC game participant SHSU 34-27 in the second round. In 2012 they were a qtr final team that handily beat VU in the 1st round before losing @ Montana State 16-10 in the second round.

How ridiculous is it that we're even having a discussion and you're making an argument about how Stony Brook owned us on the line of scrimmage. I don't care who is offended about the guys getting soft, but they were soft. That can't happen.

Watch the film lol..........our only issue was in the secondary. JMU are in a period where they have no senority at corner . It's sucks but that's the reality in college football sometimes . As a freshman it's hard to learn or get better at your position because your prolly worried about gameplan and the opponents.

I would never blame a person who has issues in their personal life for the failures of a team game. Next man up always ........

(03-22-2014 06:14 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 05:38 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 05:35 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 05:33 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 02:15 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  Delaware and Akron. Fish on.

Pretty sure we win Akron if our senior RB doesn't commit a personal foul late in the game. But yeah, go ahead and blame a freshman corner who was getting no help from a safety either.

a r-FR that our coaching staff had raved about since Spring ball last year.

Whatever. If he's giving up big play after big play then change the ******* defense and give him safety help. One player never wins or loses a damn game.

One player wins or loses games in lots of different sports all the time. Fumbles, errors, dropped ball, stupid foul, missed assignment, etc.

The sin is watching the same person make the same mistake over and over and continue to not understand their role.

I never like when people say that one play loses a game lol. There are to many plays and players involved for you to lose a game by an individual. Like that two point conversion call or the punts we had etc etc. if we are up by 35 a lot of these plays wouldn't matter to a majority.

One play didn't lose the games. Two plays did! By the same player.

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(03-22-2014 09:49 PM)olddawg Wrote:  I blame that knucklehead Corey Davis for last year's failure. Him and his lack of judgement in that marijuana buy gone bad. Wound up getting him kicked off the team. A returning starter at corner would have obviously helped out immensely as we were already thin there. We also lost corner depth in that same stupid incident as Xavier Crocker got booted too.

Yep this was a big let down for the team for sure

(03-22-2014 07:28 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 06:52 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 02:51 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 02:09 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 10:52 AM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  I don't have the film other than a couple games on DVR which doesn't show much. You need the coaches tape from the end zone to really break stuff down. The thing that showed me they weren't very good is they often looked overmatched up front against teams like Albany and Stony Brook which aren't even fully funded with scholarships.

SBU has been at/near 63 schollies for about 5 years. That's why they left the NEC after the 2007 season to join the Big South so they could go full scholly. Heck, in 2011 they only lost @ NC game participant SHSU 34-27 in the second round. In 2012 they were a qtr final team that handily beat VU in the 1st round before losing @ Montana State 16-10 in the second round.

How ridiculous is it that we're even having a discussion and you're making an argument about how Stony Brook owned us on the line of scrimmage. I don't care who is offended about the guys getting soft, but they were soft. That can't happen.

You said SBU wasn't full funded scholly wise and I was simply pointing out that was incorrect- they were fully funded. That is all.

Are you OK with them blowing JMU off the ball?

They weren't blowing JMU off the ball.
JMU held them to 90 yds rushing on 44 carries- 2 yard a carry
Even if you take off the 7 sacks for 46 yds that was 37 rushing plays for 136 yds- about 3.7 yds per carry. Wasn't blowing JMU off the ball.

SBU was torching JMU's secondary. For the 1st half JMU made their avg QB look like the greatest QB to ever set foot in Bridgeforth- he was 23 of 32 for 395 yds. But the 1st half was close to 300 yds. But that wasn't blowing JMU off the ball. That was JMU's pass coverage sucking.

Offense was good- 475 yds of offense. That wasn't blowing JMU off the ball.

Typical of JMU's season in that 41-38 loss. Offense was decent, but -2 on the turnovers, run defense was stout, got a lot of sacks, and pass coverage was HORRENDOUS. Wasn't getting blown off the ball.

I can't remember the number of quarterbacks that threw for their career high against us last year, but it was too many.

(03-24-2014 07:33 AM)JMU_Newbill Wrote:  I can't remember the number of quarterbacks that threw for their career high against us last year, but it was too many.

One?

Stonybrook, UNH, and UR just off the top of my head.

(03-22-2014 10:04 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  One play didn't lose the games. Two plays did! By the same player.

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(03-24-2014 08:11 AM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  

(03-22-2014 10:04 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  One play didn't lose the games. Two plays did! By the same player.

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That is why he got benched for the rest of the season! Coaches wised up, also. I am smart enough to know that a "team" is a group of individuals with individual responsibilities. Those individual responsibilities collectively make up the team and when an individual fails to perform his responsibility, the team suffers. One individual can certainly lose a game for a team. It is nice to walk the company line and say one person can't lose a game, but that is either naive or just being a nice guy not wanting to hurt someone's feelings.