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OT-Just Plain Bad
Adidas has new jerseys for their schools in March Madness (insert Rice joke here) and Baylor's is just awful IMHO.
https://twitter.com/UniWatch/status/4416...76/photo/1
Baylor is Nike only for football...Adidas for everything else sort of like we were with baseball for a few years.
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RE: OT-Just Plain Bad
wow
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RE: OT-Just Plain Bad
They look like ugly PJs.
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RE: OT-Just Plain Bad
They aren't good, but I've seen plenty of college football uniforms that I found more abhorent (I don't watch enough college basketball to really compare).
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RE: OT-Just Plain Bad
I prefer them to last years. Not that that takes much.
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RE: OT-Just Plain Bad
My test for a good uniform: does it look like something you could picture a team wearing while hoisting the national championship trophy?
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RE: OT-Just Plain Bad
MY test for a good uniform, do the kids you need to GET you that national championship trophy like them?
I know it's not all about the kids, but reputations and fan bases and that sort of thing don't win as many games as the kids in uniform do. Even some of the teams who could recruit while playing in the most out-dated uniforms imaginable have gone 'up-tempo'.
We should always strive to keep a FEW things sacred... like the R... and the seal and the owl face and the owl in I-45's sig (though not necessarily the wording). Outside of that, while I understand that we all have fashion preferences... WE don't have to wear those things for 4-5 years.
What I mean is, that Baylor garb probably looks great on a 20yr old basketball player in incredible shape... but I certainly wouldn't want to be seen in it. I wouldn't want to wear today the shorts that Ricky Pierce wore, nor the ones worn by Michigan with the fab 5... but obviously the players were okay with them at the time, as I probably would have been. There IS a fair amount of technology that goes into uniforms today, from moisture wicking to not getting your armpit hole caught in a guys elbow while working through a pick to not giving the defense anything to grab hold of. Our colors are pretty universally popular, but the silvers and golds and mattes always seem to come and go.
I think Wayne is probably the best example of what I mean. Almost universally we agree that the pinstripes with the R on the hat are among the best looking uniforms in college baseball.... and as an 'old school' sort of coach, you would think he would want to stick with the classics... but even he has embraced numerous uniform changes.
It's suspect it's NOT because he fancies himself a fashion designer.
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RE: OT-Just Plain Bad
(03-06-2014 01:30 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: MY test for a good uniform, do the kids you need to GET you that national championship trophy like them?
I know it's not all about the kids, but reputations and fan bases and that sort of thing don't win as many games as the kids in uniform do. Even some of the teams who could recruit while playing in the most out-dated uniforms imaginable have gone 'up-tempo'.
We should always strive to keep a FEW things sacred... like the R... and the seal and the owl face and the owl in I-45's sig (though not necessarily the wording). Outside of that, while I understand that we all have fashion preferences... WE don't have to wear those things for 4-5 years.
What I mean is, that Baylor garb probably looks great on a 20yr old basketball player in incredible shape... but I certainly wouldn't want to be seen in it. I wouldn't want to wear today the shorts that Ricky Pierce wore, nor the ones worn by Michigan with the fab 5... but obviously the players were okay with them at the time, as I probably would have been. There IS a fair amount of technology that goes into uniforms today, from moisture wicking to not getting your armpit hole caught in a guys elbow while working through a pick to not giving the defense anything to grab hold of. Our colors are pretty universally popular, but the silvers and golds and mattes always seem to come and go.
I think Wayne is probably the best example of what I mean. Almost universally we agree that the pinstripes with the R on the hat are among the best looking uniforms in college baseball.... and as an 'old school' sort of coach, you would think he would want to stick with the classics... but even he has embraced numerous uniform changes.
It's suspect it's NOT because he fancies himself a fashion designer.
Once again, I agree with what Hambone is saying here. I, too, prefer the "classic" look in most cases of uniform. But I actually don't think those Baylor unis look that bad, especially on the physically fit player pictured. Just different.
I once mentioned to Thompson he should paint "confetti" on the basketball floor when they were redoing it to make it more alive and festive, and have key shaped 'pieces' of it painted to those key spots where he wanted his players to get to in his offensive sets (example, he wanted them in transition to take their man all the way down to the other end of court and then quickly double back to get open. Often, the players would not run far enough down, and it was a sore point with him to getting them to run his offenses more correctly. And he also wanted them spaced in exact locations around the key in the half-court, which they often had trouble performing correctly and contributed to the offense breaking down more than it should have if run right. Stuff like that.
It would be festive, and would serve to help reinforce what he was teaching. It would also be a small marketing gimmick along the lines of Boise's blue turf or some of the more artistic courts we see nowadays. This was my suggestion back in the late 80's, a bit ahead of what was being done back then, I admit.
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RE: OT-Just Plain Bad
That technology really paid off in the speed skating medals didn't it?
I said I didn't like the unis personally. I understand what my tastes are probably aren't what the high scoring point guard Baylor is trying to recruit tastes are. But I still think there is a line where unis begin to look "cartoonish" but as long as the teams win and the donors open their wallets it doesn't really matter.
Sidebar:I prefer the "Dodger" all white Rice uni's over the pinstripes for use at home.
(This post was last modified: 03-06-2014 04:30 PM by Tiki Owl.)
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RE: OT-Just Plain Bad
The clothing design itself looks fine to me, but I think teams should use their school names and colors -- only -- on their uniforms.
Olive drab is not a Baylor color. (I hadn't seen that awful color in actual use since painting Revell plastic model airplanes & soldiers in the early 1960s and then in basic army training underwear!)
"Sic 'Em Bears"? Surely there's an NCAA anti-taunting rule against this.
(This post was last modified: 03-06-2014 05:38 PM by Almadenmike.)
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RE: OT-Just Plain Bad
(03-06-2014 05:37 PM)Almadenmike Wrote: The clothing design itself looks fine to me, but I think teams should use their school names and colors -- only -- on their uniforms.
I agree. And to that extent, we need to stop wearing all white in FB and M/WBB.
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RE: OT-Just Plain Bad
(03-06-2014 06:54 PM)Antarius Wrote: (03-06-2014 05:37 PM)Almadenmike Wrote: The clothing design itself looks fine to me, but I think teams should use their school names and colors -- only -- on their uniforms.
I agree. And to that extent, we need to stop wearing all white in FB and M/WBB.
This is a bit of a 'throw back' in that home teams used to wear white, especially in the SWC days of turf and heat (it was regularly 120+ on our turf) and early TV that needed the white, or at least the white outlines to show up better... so MANY teams who didn't already have white, added it and it stayed.... and at the time, people thought it looked good. Still today, lots of people think the 'all white' is a classy look. Black was also added to lots of school colors, and most shoes 'in the day' were either black or white. Black later became a 'tough' color I think like a lot of these 'battle gray' colors that teams are using today.
We are extremely fortunate to have such universally (over the decades) popular colors as Blue and Gray. Not all teams are as fortunate.
I think we could EASILY incorporate some of the new designs and artistic touches with the grays that are so popular while retaining our color scheme...
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Antarius
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RE: OT-Just Plain Bad
(03-07-2014 10:53 AM)Hambone10 Wrote: (03-06-2014 06:54 PM)Antarius Wrote: (03-06-2014 05:37 PM)Almadenmike Wrote: The clothing design itself looks fine to me, but I think teams should use their school names and colors -- only -- on their uniforms.
I agree. And to that extent, we need to stop wearing all white in FB and M/WBB.
This is a bit of a 'throw back' in that home teams used to wear white, especially in the SWC days of turf and heat (it was regularly 120+ on our turf) and early TV that needed the white, or at least the white outlines to show up better... so MANY teams who didn't already have white, added it and it stayed.... and at the time, people thought it looked good. Still today, lots of people think the 'all white' is a classy look. Black was also added to lots of school colors, and most shoes 'in the day' were either black or white. Black later became a 'tough' color I think like a lot of these 'battle gray' colors that teams are using today.
We are extremely fortunate to have such universally (over the decades) popular colors as Blue and Gray. Not all teams are as fortunate.
I think we could EASILY incorporate some of the new designs and artistic touches with the grays that are so popular while retaining our color scheme...
Valid point. I believe the NCAA required a white away kit in FB until a few years ago. Thankfully we haven't done too much of the "macho man" black uniforms that are all the rage.
That said, your final point is correct - we can easily transition into having more gray while maintaining clean and elegant uniforms. We are lucky to have nice, complementary, classy colors; we should use them.
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RE: OT-Just Plain Bad
*** My mistake and thank you for correcting me without pointing it out... AWAY whites. Home teams wear their colors.
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Hambone - to your point way above, snazzy uniforms do help market the team to prospective players. Surely we can find a way to create elegant, classy, yet snazzy kits as well? Our home unis look great (Blue-Blue-White), but a matte gray away would be killer. I like what Okie State did with their gray uniforms, for example.
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Agree 110%. Frankly, I think we have the PERFECT color palate for the current trends. Our gray looks great either shiny or matte, as does our blue and both are more attractive proxies for black, plus the cleanliness of the traditional (even if not technically a school color) white
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RE: OT-Just Plain Bad
(03-06-2014 11:43 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote: And there is an even worse version of the uni. Who is their fashion color guy? Raynor Noble?
https://twitter.com/PhilHecken/status/44...68/photo/1
I do not understand the trend of letting colors that are (a) not your school colors and (b) not neutral colors dominate the uniform. School colors are an important part of the brand and the tradition; I daresay they are mentioned in most fight songs.
Edit: Baylor mentions gold and green in its fight song.
"Come on and fight them with all your might you bruins bold
And win all our victories for the [Neon Yellow]!"
(This post was last modified: 03-09-2014 02:21 AM by Caelligh.)
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